Some rumor sites are following Eks lead and saying we are freeing up space for another move. I'm just hoping it's to retain our own RFAs

The thing I’m most curious about is the 3C situation now. We’re actively shopping McCann and we dumped Bjugstad eliminating any kind of 3C insurance we may have had, as mediocre as it may have been. It’ll be interesting to see if there’s another trade following immediately after this one.

Likely the first of many moves to come. Best case scenario I thought they would get a 6th for him. Interested in knowing how much they retained... likely half. Really happy they didn't take a player back, Pens have a lot of players under team control.

Either way, I hope Bjugstad has a good recovery and good year. Wish it would have worked out better.

The thing I’m most curious about is the 3C situation now. We’re actively shopping McCann and we dumped Bjugstad eliminating any kind of 3C insurance we may have had, as mediocre as it may have been. It’ll be interesting to see if there’s another trade following immediately after this one.
- Victoro311

This is my assumption.

Yea I didn't think he'd be worth something I just wanted him gone.
- 668710

I think we all wanted him gone for the cap room. Surprised we didn't just buy him out. Rumors have it we may have retained close to 50% of his cap hit. Most people in the Wild forums on other sites are laughing at JR being played in this deal (assuming there isn't another deal lined up). Which I believe they may have a point this could be a low risk high reward trade for them. I don't really hate the deal though. From either side.

I think we all wanted him gone for the cap room. Surprised we didn't just buy him out. Rumors have it we may have retained close to 50% of his cap hit. Most people in the Wild forums on other sites are laughing at JR being played in this deal. Which I believe they may have a point. If Bjudstad comes back from the injuries and plays close to half the season next season. This is a steal of a deal especially since they are looking for a center option and it is costing them next to nothing. If Bjudstad's spine injury is worse then most know. We at least got a 7th and potentially 2 million or more in cap space.
- 123Kid

The smooth brains on twitter and reddit are absolutely apoplectic about this deal and I don’t get why. Our org won’t buy guys out so that’s just something that we have to deal with and work around. Even if Bjugstad has a healthy season next year, the Penguins right now cannot gamble on the possibility that an OK when healthy center that doesn’t fit our identity MIGHT play over 40 games. If Bjugstad went down again next season we’d be totally (frank)ed for one of our very last chances at the Cup. $2 mil in cap space is really valuable for us right now.

Even if we retain the full 50%, that’s over $2 mil in savings. That’s not insignificant.
- Victoro311

When you add back the salary of whoever takes his spot, it's fairly insignificant IMO. 1.3M saving if you replace him with a league minimum player.

Still, obviously wasn't a market for him, they couldn't rely on him to play, and they need to trim salary. Hopefully the retention isn't 50%. Haven't seen the amount confirmed but some have suggested it.

Gotta say... It's always interesting with JR as the GM. I like Bjug. Just had zero confidence he'd stay healthy.....obviously Rutherford feels the same way.

I think we all wanted him gone for the cap room. Surprised we didn't just buy him out. Rumors have it we may have retained close to 50% of his cap hit. Most people in the Wild forums on other sites are laughing at JR being played in this deal (assuming there isn't another deal lined up). Which I believe they may have a point this could be a low risk high reward trade for them. I don't really hate the deal though. From either side.
- 123Kid

It's 50%. I like this deal because the Pens didn't have to take any roster players back. I thought maybe they'd move him for a depth player of some kind, but this is better to me.

The smooth brains on twitter and reddit are absolutely apoplectic about this deal and I don’t get why. Our org won’t buy guys out so that’s just something that we have to deal with and work around. Even if Bjugstad has a healthy season next year, the Penguins right now cannot gamble on the possibility that an OK when healthy center that doesn’t fit our identity MIGHT play over 40 games. If Bjugstad went down again next season we’d be totally (frank)ed for one of our very last chances at the Cup. $2 mil in cap space is really valuable for us right now.
- Victoro311

Does anyone know the conditions? It's obviously if Bjugstad plays I would imagine, but what happens with the pick?

When you add back the salary of whoever takes his spot, it's fairly insignificant IMO. 1.3M saving if you replace him with a league minimum player.

Still, obviously wasn't a market for him, they couldn't rely on him to play, and they need to trim salary. Hopefully the retention isn't 50%. Haven't seen the amount confirmed but some have suggested it.
- Tojo.

It's 50%

I think we all wanted him gone for the cap room. Surprised we didn't just buy him out. Rumors have it we may have retained close to 50% of his cap hit. Most people in the Wild forums on other sites are laughing at JR being played in this deal (assuming there isn't another deal lined up). Which I believe they may have a point this could be a low risk high reward trade for them. I don't really hate the deal though. From either side.
- 123Kid

With a flat cap and a lot of teams having lost so much money they need to go even lower than that, teams dumping salary don't have much leverage. In a normal year, a team likely gives a higher pick and no retention just because they have more space available. Expectations on how hard salary is to move need to be adjusted.

The smooth brains on twitter and reddit are absolutely apoplectic about this deal and I don’t get why. Our org won’t buy guys out so that’s just something that we have to deal with and work around. Even if Bjugstad has a healthy season next year, the Penguins right now cannot gamble on the possibility that an OK when healthy center that doesn’t fit our identity MIGHT play over 40 games. If Bjugstad went down again next season we’d be totally (frank)ed for one of our very last chances at the Cup. $2 mil in cap space is really valuable for us right now.
- Victoro311

This is just a fact. Too much risk in relying on a guy who can't stay healthy.

With a flat cap and a lot of teams having lost so much money they need to go even lower than that, teams dumping salary don't have much leverage. In a normal year, a team likely gives a higher pick and no retention just because they have more space available. Expectations on how hard salary is to move need to be adjusted.
- Tojo.

Yup.

When you add back the salary of whoever takes his spot, it's fairly insignificant IMO. 1.3M saving if you replace him with a league minimum player.

Still, obviously wasn't a market for him, they couldn't rely on him to play, and they need to trim salary. Hopefully the retention isn't 50%. Haven't seen the amount confirmed but some have suggested it.
- Tojo.

I really don’t get your point. Yes, we are going to use the cap savings? $2 mil is a good step in the right direction for freeing up enough cap to be able to fit a new 3C under the cap. It’s all gonna come down to how much cap we save from a Murray trade, but freeing up $2 mil gives us some wiggle room to take back some cap in a Murray trade and still do what we have to do.

Does anyone know the conditions? It's obviously if Bjugstad plays I would imagine, but what happens with the pick?
- 668710

Does it really matter? A 7th from a middling team is pretty close to undrafted FA territory. I would imagine it just kicks the pick down another year. I have no idea why they would even bother putting conditions on this pick. Maybe it goes up to a 6th if he plays a lot? Either way, it doesn't matter.

Wonder what the next trade will be, because I have a feeling there will be another trade by the Penguins soon. JR is showing he is definitely willing to make a deal before the playoffs end

It's 50%. I like this deal because the Pens didn't have to take any roster players back. I thought maybe they'd move him for a depth player of some kind, but this is better to me.
- Rinosaur

LOL, was literally the first thing I saw when I refreshed twitter after typing that.

RW's new blog title: "Bjugly Trade"

I really don’t get your point. Yes, we are going to use the cap savings? $2 mil is a good step in the right direction for freeing up enough cap to be able to fit a new 3C under the cap. It’s all gonna come down to how much cap we save from a Murray trade, but freeing up $2 mil gives us some wiggle room to take back some cap in a Murray trade and still do what we have to do.
- Victoro311

My assumption is they aren't reinvesting that savings, just cutting salary. Both the local and national media have reported we won't spend to the cap.

Wonder what the next trade will be, because I have a feeling there will be another trade by the Penguins soon. JR is showing he is definitely willing to make a deal before the playoffs end
- 123Kid

JR def seems on a mission though. He’s been a busy fella

Murray is definitely getting a 1st rounder
- Feds91Stammer

if he was worth a 1st rounder he would have already been dealt; his recent performance since his father's death has not been good. He is weak high glove sure he has 2 cups but that was not 100 percent on his fleury had a slice of credit with that as well.
also appears he perhaps is entitled maybe thinking he is the next Patrick roy which is not.