jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Realistically Montour is a 3rd pairing RD here though - sbroads24
Idc where he slots in
I’m talking about “value” dude
Top4 RH Defenseman >>> 3C (even a good one) |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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For what purpose though?
It’s not gonna make us better than TB or BOS if we do something like pick8 for Gaudreau
If it’s for a good YOUNG player, then cool
But are those guys available?
Heck... if we can get Matty Tkachuk, then GREAT
But CGY would be crazy to move him
Maybe Boeser?
But idk what we’d have to give up
Who ya thinkin? - jdfitz77
Not sure. One of the Arizona forwards. Ehlers.
I want them to make that D for F trade that should’ve been done by JB |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Why is trading a Top4 RH defenseman (always in demand) for a 3rd liner (who we have plenty of,
a good idea? - jdfitz77
Glad you asked.
Montour is arbitration eligible and after this year is then UFA eligible.
His value takes a direct hit as the team looking to acquire him would need to be a team that is looking to extend him for longer than this season, or run the risk of losing him for nothing after this year. In addition, that said team would also have to protect him in the upcoming expansion draft, or they won’t which would be poor asset management unless there is really nothing of substance being given up for his services.
His underlying stats are also pretty sub par so unless he’s part of a package that includes much more from our end (which is completely possible and not out of the question) I would expect a middle 6 forward would be what the doctor ordered like a Jared McCann.
Could the Sabres package Montour with picks and prospects for a greater return ? Absolutely.
The more simplistic/realistic move, especially in this economy, is either a 1 for 1 deal or trading him for futures. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Not sure. One of the Arizona forwards. Ehlers.
I want them to make that D for F trade that should’ve been done by JB - sbroads24
Ehlers would be amazing,
but WPG would be nuts to move him-
especially after this past season.
He was pretty awesome
Are their rumors about him again?
I haven’t been paying too much attn to hockey the last couple weeks
I’m in too many Fantasy football leagues, lol |
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Honestly. Good on Adams for seeing a gaping hole that’s been there for two years and doing SOMETHING about it. That’s incredibly promising - sbroads24
You mean good job Kim and Ralph.
Adams today during his press conference Confirmed he had to run this trade through pegula and Ralph first before accepting it. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Glad you asked.
Montour is arbitration eligible and after this year is then UFA eligible.
His value takes a direct hit as the team looking to acquire him would need to be a team that is looking to extend him for longer than this season, or run the risk of losing him for nothing after this year. In addition that said team would also have to protect him in the upcoming expansion draft, or they won’t which would be poor asset management unless there is really nothing of substance being given up for his services.
His underlying stats are also pretty sub par so unless he’s part of a package that includes much more from our end (which is completely possible and not out of the question) I would expect a middle 6 forward would be what the doctor ordered like a Jared McCann.
Could the Sabres package Montour with picks and prospects for a greater return ? Absolutely.
The more simplistic/realistic move, especially in this economy, is either a 1 for 1 deal or trading him for futures. - Pegullaville
Anyone that trades for Montour is gonna wanna keep him
That shouldn’t hurt his value like you suggest
I don’t think so anyways.....
but this could be a crazy offseason with all the weirdness that’s been happening |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Ehlers would be amazing,
but WPG would be nuts to move him-
especially after this past season.
He was pretty awesome
Are their rumors about him again?
I haven’t been paying too much attn to hockey the last couple weeks
I’m in too many Fantasy football leagues, lol - jdfitz77
Yeah, reportedly they’re open to moving one of Laine or Ehlers for D.
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Yeah, reportedly they’re open to moving one of Laine or Ehlers for D. - sbroads24
Dumba.
Makes too much sense |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Yeah, reportedly they’re open to moving one of Laine or Ehlers for D. - sbroads24
Not that we need another LW,
but I’ve been an Ehlers fan for quite a while
Montour + for him?
Just don’t know what the “+” would have to be
Laine probably costs Monty + pick8,
but i don’t wanna move that pick |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Not that we need another LW,
but I’ve been an Ehlers fan for quite a while
Montour + for him?
Just don’t know what the “+” would have to be - jdfitz77
No clue. Ehlers is excellent. Would be our best winger.
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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No clue. Ehlers is excellent. Would be our best winger. - sbroads24
For sure
That kid can freaking skate
He’s crazy good |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Dumba.
Makes too much sense - Pegullaville
In division though |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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At the end of the day,
Adams made a “good” (not “great”) trade
We’ll have to see how it all plays out,
but at least his 1st move was something that made SENSE, and filled a big NEED
Especially bc of the Cap situation,
there should be more guys like this available
I know it wasn’t a “big move”
But another trade or 2 like this could be just what we need
Still hope we keep pick8 though
Go Sabres! |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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In division though - sbroads24
That’s fair. |
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Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "F-" Robert, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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I think it was the level below.
Perfect would’ve been getting a center with term for one of the D men.
It’s excellent value for Johansson.
I pray this isn’t “the move” up front - sbroads24
Why trade a dman, when you can give up Johansson for Staal? Risto, Miller and/montour is not going to land you any player that is significantly better than Staal. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Why trade a dman, when you can give up Johansson for Staal? Risto, Miller and/montour is not going to land you any player that is significantly better than Staal. - Mentalorgasm5
Because it’s actually bad to continue to let these D men rot away when you have 5 capable RD
Risto
Jokiharju
Miller
Montour
Borgen.
It’s just crazy how they’re all still here |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
Guerin also said of Victor Rask that the #mnwild "need to get him more playing time. He's a very, very capable center."
That would seem to indicate that Rask won't be bought out. I've mentioned a few times on recent podcasts I thought a buyout for him was unlikely
Bill.might be the next worst gm.
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
Guerin also said of Victor Rask that the #mnwild "need to get him more playing time. He's a very, very capable center."
That would seem to indicate that Rask won't be bought out. I've mentioned a few times on recent podcasts I thought a buyout for him was unlikely
Bill.might be the next worst gm. - GERBE!!!75PTS
Yeah that’s a brutal start |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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This is insane
WOW: "The last time the Browns played a full season without a coach or general manager change was when head coach Romeo Crennel and Savage stayed together from 2005 to 2008."
Holy hell |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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What I would do at this point:
Montour for McCann or Kerfoot
Sign either Toffoli or Craig Smith in FA.
Olofsson-Eichel-Toffoli/Smith
Skinner-Staal-Reinhart
Kahun-McCann/Kerfoot-Cozens
Thompson-Asplund-Okposo - Pegullaville
People keep bringing up Kerfoot and he's just so mediocre and vanilla. He only produced points of any kind when he was part of a loaded Avalanche power play.
Otherwise, he's a 30 point player.
No thank you. |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Realistically Montour is a 3rd pairing RD here though - sbroads24
What does that make Ristolainen? |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Not sure. One of the Arizona forwards. Ehlers.
I want them to make that D for F trade that should’ve been done by JB - sbroads24
I think it's obvious the bolded will happen.
I'm still in shock Adams turned Johansson into Staal, without retaining any cap or having to add more.
Did he keep calling until Guerin finally said yes so Adams would leave him alone? |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Dumba.
Makes too much sense - Pegullaville
I looked up Dumba earlier today.
He's been pedestrian for at least the past 2 seasons. |
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LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Ice girls, please, NY Joined: 07.16.2011
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People keep bringing up Kerfoot and he's just so mediocre and vanilla. He only produced points of any kind when he was part of a loaded Avalanche power play.
Otherwise, he's a 30 point player.
No thank you. - kingcong39
Yeah, I want no part of Kerfoot, either.
Gimme Ehlers somehow, please! |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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What was the trade? - Michael Pachla
Garland and Hjalmarsson was what I heard. |
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