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Idk why you guys expect me to fold..
Everything I’ve ever said about Nylander has turned out to be true. - Arctic_AARDVARK
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bobbyisno1
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Because Marner has a way higher ceiling. It is absolutely is giving up on him.
Nylander + Johnsson / Kerfoot gives them the same cap space and enough trade value to get the job done.
Don't trade the best players with the highest ceilings. Trade the 4th best forward instead. - JohnFergusonJr
You just traded 3 NHL players, they have to be replaced with cap hits.
And has Nylander hit his ceiling? |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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You just traded 3 NHL players, they have to be replaced with cap hits.
And has Nylander hit his ceiling? - bobbyisno1
Johnsson and Kerfoot are easily replaceable. Johnsson came from the AHL and there's no reason why a guy like Engvall or Mikheyev can't replace him. Kerfoot is poop so anybody can replace him.
If the Leafs get a D like Doughty or Pietrangelo, they could easily score 10 goals and 50 points which doesn't cover 100% of Nylander's offense but enough to make it worth it.
Not to mention the added points from Matthews and Marner as they reach their prime years.
Nylander's ceiling isn't as high as Marner and it never will be. End of story. |
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bobbyisno1
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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Johnsson and Kerfoot are easily replaceable. Johnsson came from the AHL and there's no reason why a guy like Engvall or Mikheyev can't replace him. Kerfoot is poop so anybody can replace him.
If the Leafs get a D like Doughty or Pietrangelo, they could easily score 10 goals and 50 points which doesn't cover 100% of Nylander's offense but enough to make it worth it.
Not to mention the added points from Matthews and Marner as they reach their prime years.
Nylander's ceiling isn't as high as Marner and it never will be. End of story. - JohnFergusonJr
Trading Marner to have better team and a more rounded team should be on the table. End of story. |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Trading Marner to have better team and a more rounded team should be on the table. End of story. - bobbyisno1
Nope, not necessary. Nylander+ is good enough. |
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The Law
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He's an embarrassment - the only reason he is still on the team is Atkins and Shapiro don't want to own up to trading two good pitchers for this sack of sh!t. - winsix
Fisher sucks ..but "good pitchers" is a stretch. Sanchez has barely played since the trade, has once again suffered a lengthy career threatening injury and is unsigned. Biagini is a dogs breakfast. |
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This game has triple overtime written all over it.
I’m calling Schenn with the GWG |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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This game has triple overtime written all over it.
I’m calling Schenn with the GWG - Byfuglien Ate Me
Should have brought him back on the cheap. He's exactly what the Leafs are missing on the bottom pairing. He smashes everybody and just plays simple hockey. Perfect bottom pairing RHD. |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan Joined: 03.03.2016
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This game has triple overtime written all over it.
I’m calling Schenn with the GWG - Byfuglien Ate Me
Just as long as Tampa wins. The sooner this series ends, the sooner the playoffs end, and the off-season begins. |
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Should have brought him back on the cheap. He's exactly what the Leafs are missing on the bottom pairing. He smashes everybody and just plays simple hockey. Perfect bottom pairing RHD. - JohnFergusonJr
Yeah, kinda like Polak. No need for that guy...
Denver about to kick out Kawhi! |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Johnsson and Kerfoot are easily replaceable. Johnsson came from the AHL and there's no reason why a guy like Engvall or Mikheyev can't replace him. Kerfoot is poop so anybody can replace him.
If the Leafs get a D like Doughty or Pietrangelo, they could easily score 10 goals and 50 points which doesn't cover 100% of Nylander's offense but enough to make it worth it.
Not to mention the added points from Matthews and Marner as they reach their prime years.
Nylander's ceiling isn't as high as Marner and it never will be. End of story. - JohnFergusonJr
Jonsson has minimal trade value. Kerplunk is poop and has a poop contract. He's worth a bag of poop. |
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oldstyle
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Location: Just outside the asylum, ON Joined: 08.19.2013
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I love the guy but I can't validate the money, with or without Nylander. It's a different variation of the same structure issues to me. 🤷♂️
If he can play 60 minutes a night I will shift to problem solved pay the man. Until then we still need two other pairings to touch the ice. - joel878
Use him as a babysitter for Sandin.
Sandin/ Piet
Riley/Muzzin
Lhetonen/Holl
Liljegren
Even if it doesn't work and you end up with Riley/Piet, it's still better than last year.
The big advantage of getting a guy better than Riley, is it pushes EVERYBODY down a spot. That said, I'd be hesitant biting for anything more than $8 Mil, so probably just a pipe dream.
Doesn't have to be Piet...anyone better than Riley would do. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Yeah, kinda like Polak. No need for that guy...
Denver about to kick out Kawhi! - Byfuglien Ate Me
Second time in these playoffs that Denver will have come back from down 3-1. Crazy. |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Jonsson has minimal trade value. Kerplunk is poop and has a poop contract. He's worth a bag of poop. - Tumbleweed
Johnsson at 3 million and 20 goals provides value to a team like Minnesota. There's plenty of teams that would give you picks and prospects for him and where the salary cap isn't an issue. Same with Kerfoot. They suck for us but they're still NHL players on most mediocre (or worse) teams.
Nylander is what gets you the D you need. Johnsson and Kerfoot just need to be dumped and replaced with cheaper players to clear the cap space you need to sign the D you bring in. |
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Second time in these playoffs that Denver will have come back from down 3-1. Crazy. - GreatGigInTheSky
That is nuts. They sweep the next series. 2020, book it. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Dr. Leaf
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Ranatanen JFC 🤦🏻♂️
Leafs will never will with perimeter players like Willy. You can’t have that type of laziness on your team and expect to win on the playoffs.
Idc if he scores 40G in the regular season, it doesn’t mean poop. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Your bias against Willy is completely unsupported by the facts. Look at a map of where he scored his goals from this year. He is absolutely not a perimeter player. Far from it.
Maybe he was years past but not now. He is also not bad defensively by objective measures.
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Trading Marner to have better team and a more rounded team should be on the table. End of story. - bobbyisno1
There's no D available that's worth Marner. Marner is a first overall pick calibre player. |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Clippers went full Leafy - Zezel
Kawhi played like total poop. Shot 22%.
As Charles Barkley would say; "Just turrible." |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan Joined: 03.03.2016
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There's no D available that's worth Marner. Marner is a first overall pick calibre player. - Zezel
Like Yakupov? |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Idk why you guys expect me to fold..
Everything I’ve ever said about Nylander has turned out to be true. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Ummm.... |
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JohnFergusonJr
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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There's no D available that's worth Marner. Marner is a first overall pick calibre player. - Zezel
90+ point player, PKer, 21 playoff points in 25 playoff games and still only 23 years old.
TRADE HIM!
Because Leafs fans. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Like Yakupov? - Steven_Seagull
No more like Daigle |
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mr.sir
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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There's no D available that's worth Marner. Marner is a first overall pick calibre player. - Zezel
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Kawhi played like total poop. Shot 22%.
As Charles Barkley would say; "Just turrible." - JohnFergusonJr
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