Trump criticizing Biden for not bringing in a national mask mandate....wtf Biden is not the President lolololol...it's actually hard to watch this clown flailing around at this point.
- Zezel

Another person with TDS.

Keep it to hockey talk.

I wasn’t around when Berger was blogging. Does he have any sources or is he another Blundell?



Howard Berger
@Berger_BYTES
For Colton Parayko, told #Leafs would have to give up Nic Robertson or Rasmus Sandin and a second-round pick. And obviously, unload one of their big forward salaries. It's about roster balance...
10:32 PM · Sep 15, 2020
- Steven_Seagull

He's been out of it for a long time now. Seems like a stupid low price.

so...

Islanders still in it. Good for them.
I just want them to win against Tampa, since it's LOU, and it would even be more comical to read Roger's "NYI suck, Dubas >>> Lou, Komarov, Martin and Nelson have bad contracts, etc.".

Apparently it's ok to talk politics -- CC and Joel and Zezel and others constantly talking about US elections.

Remember when a few weeks / months ago I suggested the Dems plan was to take Biden out just after winning the Presidential elections, and go with Harris + Hillary?
They're not even being secretive about that anymore - with both Harris and Biden talking about the 'Harris Administration'.

What a (frank)ed up country the US is - a third world country loaded with debt, no social security, war-mongering around the world, and not able to come up with 1 (let alone 2 or 3 or 4) suitable candidates for the Presidential elections..
I'm really getting worried about the upcoming elections in the US - because for the world nothing good will come out of that (Trump winning (most possible scenario) would be really bad; and Harris (stepped out of the presidential race last year because she was unable to get any support from the Democratic side!) & Biden would be even worse..).
What a poop-show.

Oh and yes, Nylander will have to be traded (AA, you weren't the only one advocating for this) -- and his return will be kinda ok in Dubas' fans eyes (a high pick, a 'top end prospect' and salary cap space!!) -- but it would be a bad move to not trade him for a player that could instantly play with Matthews on his wing.

An interesting option would be to consider trading Nylander for Monahan or Hertl - if, and only if one of those guys could be a fit on Matthews' wing. Hertl would seem the most obvious option, since it would mean a 1.5mln AAV cap saving as well. A bit older, but clearly a better option for Matthews' wing and for Leafs in general. Maybe the age difference would be a reason for SJ to make that trade, but surely it would be a hard sell for the Leafs.

so...

Islanders still in it. Good for them.
I just want them to win against Tampa, since it's LOU, and it would even be more comical to read Roger's "NYI suck, Dubas >>> Lou, Komarov, Martin and Nelson have bad contracts, etc.".

Apparently it's ok to talk politics -- CC and Joel and Zezel and others constantly talking about US elections.

Remember when a few weeks / months ago I suggested the Dems plan was to take Biden out just after winning the Presidential elections, and go with Harris + Hillary?
They're not even being secretive about that anymore - with both Harris and Biden talking about the 'Harris Administration'.

What a (frank)ed up country the US is - a third world country loaded with debt, no social security, war-mongering around the world, and not able to come up with 1 (let alone 2 or 3 or 4) suitable candidates for the Presidential elections..
I'm really getting worried about the upcoming elections in the US - because for the world nothing good will come out of that (Trump winning (most possible scenario) would be really bad; and Harris (stepped out of the presidential race last year because she was unable to get any support from the Democratic side!) & Biden would be even worse..).
What a poop-show.

Oh and yes, Nylander will have to be traded (AA, you weren't the only one advocating for this) -- and his return will be kinda ok in Dubas' fans eyes (a high pick, a 'top end prospect' and salary cap space!!) -- but it would be a bad move to not trade him for a player that could instantly play with Matthews on his wing.

An interesting option would be to consider trading Nylander for Monahan or Hertl - if, and only if one of those guys could be a fit on Matthews' wing. Hertl would seem the most obvious option, since it would mean a 1.5mln AAV cap saving as well. A bit older, but clearly a better option for Matthews' wing and for Leafs in general. Maybe the age difference would be a reason for SJ to make that trade, but surely it would be a hard sell for the Leafs.
- MaximusAurelius

I'm entertained!

Another person with TDS.

Keep it to hockey talk.
- JohnFergusonJr

It's not derangement to be politically engaged. That term is lazy and weak.

I’m still trying to figure out how the islanders got Eberle for a bag of groceries...
- dozerD10

Morons labelled him a perennial loser (and said he was given too much $$$ too early in his career). The Oil ended up selling low.

We could very well be discussing how team X got Nylander at such a low price in a few years, and it would be for the same reasons.

Morons labelled him a perennial loser (and said he was given too much $$$ too early in his career). The Oil ended up selling low.

We could very well be discussing how team X got Nylander at such a low price in a few years, and it would be for the same reasons.
- Leafs43

Eberle isn't that good. You are completely right in comparing him with Nylander - I actually made the comparison several times last 2 years.
Ok second line players, but both not essential to a team's success - they have good hands and can contribute offensively, but nothing spectacular (4th/5th FW on most NHL teams).

Lou brought in Andersen while Dubas thought Sparks was the real deal... I can also point out all the subpar Ufa adds brought in last off-season by dubas (and the dubas lovers (including 'professional' sports writers) all of a sudden writing in Kenny agostino as a sure bet to make the team). And Cody ceci.
- MaximusAurelius

sparks was drafted in 2011, long before Dubas

Dubas Brought in Tavares, Lou brought in Colin Greening, anyone can make up stuff for that stupid game

Morons labelled him a perennial loser (and said he was given too much $$$ too early in his career). The Oil ended up selling low.

We could very well be discussing how team X got Nylander at such a low price in a few years, and it would be for the same reasons.
- Leafs43

I don't understand why people want to move on from Nylander. if I was a leafs fan, the player I want to move on from is Tavares.

Nylander put up better production this past season (1 less point but 4 more goals) for close to half the price. Nylander is 24 and getting better, Tavares is 30 and has already peaked (and will likely start declining sooner rather than later).

Tavares still has value (although leafs would likely need to take some salary back to move him), but in 3-4 years, when he's almost 35 and not producing, and still making that much.....it will be IMPOSSIBLE to move him.

I suppose since he has a full NMC it's kind of a moot point, it will never happen....but for those people who female dog about what Nylander makes compared to what he provides......i'd be (frank)ing PISSED to have an 11 mil player only putting up 60pts

sparks was drafted in 2011, long before Dubas

Dubas Brought in Tavares, Lou brought in Colin Greening, anyone can make up stuff for that stupid game
- senstroll

dubas kept sparks over mcsavey, a good backup that was interested in staying with the team and had just had a great season.

I don't understand why people want to move on from Nylander. if I was a leafs fan, the player I want to move on from is Tavares.

Nylander put up better production this past season (1 less point but 4 more goals) for close to half the price. Nylander is 24 and getting better, Tavares is 30 and has already peaked (and will likely start declining sooner rather than later).

Tavares still has value (although leafs would likely need to take some salary back to move him), but in 3-4 years, when he's almost 35 and not producing, and still making that much.....it will be IMPOSSIBLE to move him.

I suppose since he has a full NMC it's kind of a moot point, it will never happen....but for those people who female dog about what Nylander makes compared to what he provides......i'd be (frank)ing PISSED to have an 11 mil player only putting up 60pts
- sensarmy_11

63 points in 60 games, but whatever.

dubas kept sparks over mcsavey, a good backup that was interested in staying with the team and had just had a great season.
- MaximusAurelius

if you mean he gave Sparks a chance after winning the memorial cup, then yes..he did do that.

I don't understand why people want to move on from Nylander. if I was a leafs fan, the player I want to move on from is Tavares.

Nylander put up better production this past season (1 less point but 4 more goals) for close to half the price. Nylander is 24 and getting better, Tavares is 30 and has already peaked (and will likely start declining sooner rather than later).

Tavares still has value (although leafs would likely need to take some salary back to move him), but in 3-4 years, when he's almost 35 and not producing, and still making that much.....it will be IMPOSSIBLE to move him.

I suppose since he has a full NMC it's kind of a moot point, it will never happen....but for those people who female dog about what Nylander makes compared to what he provides......i'd be (frank)ing PISSED to have an 11 mil player only putting up 60pts
- sensarmy_11

I'm actually going to respond to this nonsense.

1. Nylander does not make "close to half" of what Tavares makes.

2. Tavares put up 60 points in 63 games. Would I prefer higher production? Of course. But let's not pretend he has regressed into a 60 point over 82 game player.

3. Tavares has already been payed 42.89 million from his 77 million deal. So 5 years left at total 34 million cash. (6.83 million per year). You bet your ass the Leafs could trade him tomorrow to the Sens or 5 other teams at that $$ value.

Eberle isn't that good. You are completely right in comparing him with Nylander - I actually made the comparison several times last 2 years.
Ok second line players, but both not essential to a team's success - they have good hands and can contribute offensively, but nothing spectacular (4th/5th FW on most NHL teams).
- MaximusAurelius

that player would be really good

63 points in 60 games, but whatever.
- Zezel

other players (skaters) who make 10+ mil:

McDavid - 97 pts
Matthews - 80 pts
marner - 67 (he's been RIPPED by most for sucking this year)
kane - 84
toews - 60 (people have said for a few years now that he's steadily declining)
panarin - 95
eichel - 78

i'm not saying Tavares sucks, he's obviously a really good player, I just don't understand why, when people look at $$ versus production, they aren't more upset with Tavares

if you mean he gave Sparks a chance after winning the memorial cup, then yes..he did do that.
- senstroll

anybody that watched Sparks play could see that Sparks was not at the level of being an NHL backup.
stated that several times before.
it's not some sort of fantasy world where children have to be 'rewarded' for doing something - it's professional sports where no freebies should be given out.

I'm actually going to respond to this nonsense.

1. Nylander does not make "close to half" of what Tavares makes.

2. Tavares put up 60 points in 63 games. Would I prefer higher production? Of course. But let's not pretend he has regressed into a 60 point over 82 game player.

3. Tavares has already been payed 42.89 million from his 77 million deal. So 5 years left at total 34 million cash. (6.83 million per year). You bet your ass the Leafs could trade him tomorrow to the Sens or 5 other teams at that $$ value.
- Leafs43

sorry Mr. Semantics, i was rounding.......i'll rephrase, he makes about 6/10 of what Tavares makes (6.9 divided by 11 = 0.62 in case you wanted to check my math)

i didn't say the leafs couldnt' trade him, i said they would need to take a contract back (it wouldn't be Tavares for prospects and picks to clear up 11 mil in cap space)

and i wasn't saying Tavares wasn't good, i was saying that i don't understand why people are upset with nylander's production based on what he makes, but don't mention tavares' production based on what he makes.

Nylander seems to be way better "bang for your buck" than Tavares

one is a 24 year old, ppg player, who makes less than 7 mil......the other is a 30 year old, ppg player, who makes 11 mil

other players (skaters) who make 10+ mil:

McDavid - 97 pts
Matthews - 80 pts
marner - 67 (he's been RIPPED by most for sucking this year)
kane - 84
toews - 60 (people have said for a few years now that he's steadily declining)
panarin - 95
eichel - 78

i'm not saying Tavares sucks, he's obviously a really good player, I just don't understand why, when people look at $$ versus production, they aren't more upset with Tavares
- sensarmy_11

We get it, you think Tavares is overpaid.. We get it.

anybody that watched Sparks play could see that Sparks was not at the level of being an NHL backup.
stated that several times before.
it's not some sort of fantasy world where children have to be 'rewarded' for doing something - it's professional sports where no freebies should be given out.
- MaximusAurelius

being drafted and developed over 7 years with one NHL team, then winning the memorial cup does not say to me he was given a freebie, he put in his time and earned a chance.

We get it, you think Tavares is overpaid.. We get it.
- bixll

jesus (frank), you guys are insanely sensitive.

i asked a question, i wasn't being a Richard about it, i didn't say "leafs suck", "Tavares blows", "1967".....wasn't trolling at all. i asked a question, backed it up with numbers, and you guys start crying like little female doges with skinned knees.

jesus (frank), you guys are insanely sensitive.

i asked a question, i wasn't being a Richard about it, i didn't say "leafs suck", "Tavares blows", "1967".....wasn't trolling at all. i asked a question, backed it up with numbers, and you guys start crying like little female doges with skinned knees.
- sensarmy_11

Wooo, talk about sensitive. Didn't mention trolling. All i said was we get it.. Get over yourself..

I want Severson from NJ as my sleeper top 4, and sign DeMelo.

other players (skaters) who make 10+ mil:

McDavid - 97 pts
Matthews - 80 pts
marner - 67 (he's been RIPPED by most for sucking this year)
kane - 84
toews - 60 (people have said for a few years now that he's steadily declining)
panarin - 95
eichel - 78

i'm not saying Tavares sucks, he's obviously a really good player, I just don't understand why, when people look at $$ versus production, they aren't more upset with Tavares
- sensarmy_11

Again, how many games did Tavares play? How many points and goals did get last year? How much will McDavid and Matthews sign for when they are Tavares' age?

Thank you for coming out.

We get it, you think Tavares is overpaid.. We get it.
- bixll

Last season Tavares was on pace for 34-44-78, which is pretty much exactly on par with his career average.


i think you got exactly what you paid for..

jesus (frank), you guys are insanely sensitive.

i asked a question, i wasn't being a Richard about it, i didn't say "leafs suck", "Tavares blows", "1967".....wasn't trolling at all. i asked a question, backed it up with numbers, and you guys start crying like little female doges with skinned knees.
- sensarmy_11

well, since Snakes has a full NMC and got 5 years left of his contract - it sure is easier to b!tch about players that can be traded if they suck compared to $$.