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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
To my eye, he is smallish, not great on the D side, fair on the Offensive side. Not what the Leafs need. JMO

Leafs need some old fashion Dmen. Stay at home, block some shots, make a good first pass out of their zone. Nothing special or fancy. Be great if the guy could fight.

- bixll

Sounds like we agree for the most part, except I would be willing to buy low on Dumba
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:15 AM ET
Where do you rank him compared to:

Manson (Komisarek)
Tanev✔️(Warrior)
Gudas (too many penalties)
Demelo❌
Savard✔️🥇
Hamonic✔️
Dillon✔️ but LHD
Murphy❌
Vatanen❌

- mr.sir


Id take DeMelo, Dillon, Gudas, and Hamonic from that group. Savard will cost too much, is aging(will be 30 in a few weeks), and needs a new deal after next year, pass.

Dumba really isnt very good. It would have to be a cheap asset trade for him IMO.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
Sounds like we agree for the most part, except I would be willing to buy low on Dumba
- mr.sir


A 7th rounder,, sure, sure..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:19 AM ET
Id take DeMelo, Dillon, Gudas, and Hamonic from that group. Savard will cost too much, is aging(will be 30 in a few weeks), and needs a new deal after next year, pass.

Dumba really isnt very good. It would have to be a cheap asset trade for him IMO.

- Archaic


DeMelo and Hamonic would be fantastic adds for the Leafs..

I like the idea of adding Gudas, he might still be able to scare off or intimidate opposing forwards.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
So brodin at 6m per.
Doesnt look like players will be taking too much of a pay cut this off season as some expected, based off this.

Lebrun was saying that his contract is backloaded, the first two years are 4 and 5m per, maybe we see more contracts like this?
Dunno, we'll see.

- Fakepartofme



So at what price does Pietrangelo stop making sense, huh Mr. Psycho Killer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wke3tdWrd3k
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 16 @ 9:22 AM ET
What is the special at the restaurant today Bobby?
- bixll

Not so busy theses days so we stick to the menu, less labour cost, less food cost. Although today supposed to be really nice so the patio might be hopping.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
So at what price does Pietrangelo stop making sense, huh Mr. Psycho Killer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wke3tdWrd3k

- Canada Cup


Have to think that anything over $8M would be too much for the Leafs
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
Robertson is a nice surprise. Playing with house money there. So package him with one of those tool bags like Dermott or Holl and get the D you need.
- DrunkenCanuck

I think you're the first person to suggest this.

It's actually a pretty interesting idea.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
DeMelo and Hamonic would be fantastic adds for the Leafs..

I like the idea of adding Gudas, he might still be able to scare off or intimidate opposing forwards.

- PatC80

Not sure why people like Demelo

Not at all what we need and would likely need to overpay
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
I think you're the first person to suggest this.

It's actually a pretty interesting idea.

- Atomic Wedgie



I'd be really reluctant to move out young, cheap skill especially when we don't expect cap growth in a while
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
Not sure why people like Demelo

Not at all what we need and would likely need to overpay

- mr.sir


If we got him, he would be our best RHD. From what I have seen, Demelo does not make many mistakes and is only 27. Also, he played in Mississauga in junior... So, I got a soft spot for him
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
I'd be really reluctant to move out young, cheap skill especially when we don't expect cap growth in a while
- Canada Cup

Yeah, but that's exactly why he has so much value.

Is Florida interested in Ekblad for Willy?

Probably not - it doesn't save them much money.

Ekblad for Robertson - and Florida can even eat some salary?

It's a completely different picture.

Leafs' window is what, four more years? If you put down the pitcher of blue kool-aid for a moment, is he really going to be an impact player in the next 3?

I'm just saying it's the first time I've seen anyone suggesting trading Robertson, and it made me stop and think.

And I'll just point out that the guy is far from a sure thing at this point - the jury is still out.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:38 AM ET
I'd be really reluctant to move out young, cheap skill especially when we don't expect cap growth in a while
- Canada Cup


I think the bigger issue is that if you do trade Robertson, you can't really take on much salary, unless you include him into a larger deal, like Nylander, a 2020 1st and Robertson for Seth Jones. (just to be used as an example, I know that is not enough to get Seth Jones).
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 16 @ 9:38 AM ET
If we got him, he would be our best RHD. From what I have seen, Demelo does not make many mistakes and is only 27. Also, he played in Mississauga in junior... So, I got a soft spot for him
- PatC80

If he will cost 3.5m.....

Rather keep Holl at 2m
Move Dermott to the right side
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 16 @ 9:39 AM ET
Have to think that anything over $8M would be too much for the Leafs
- PatC80



yeah, the fake cap lineups I have seen, have AP at 8.5
which is pretty much a fantasy.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:40 AM ET
Yeah, but that's exactly why he has so much value.

Is Florida interested in Ekblad for Willy?

Probably not - it doesn't save them much money.

Ekblad for Robertson - and Florida can even eat some salary?

It's a completely different picture.

Leafs' window is what, four more years? If you put down the pitcher of blue kool-aid for a moment, is he really going to be an impact player in the next 3?

I'm just saying it's the first time I've seen anyone suggesting trading Robertson, and it made me stop and think.

And I'll just point out that the guy is far from a sure thing at this point - the jury is still out.

- Atomic Wedgie


Assuming Florida wants to eat salary when there will be a lot of teams lining up for someone like Ekblad. I do see your point though. Maybe something like Johnsson, a draft pick and Robertson for Ekblad could work
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 16 @ 9:42 AM ET
What are the Leafs needs?

RHD
3C
Big winger to play with 34
Goalie

Only team that can give us “one stop shopping “ = CBJ

Savard
Jenner
Anderson
Merzlikins
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:42 AM ET
If he will cost 3.5m.....

Rather keep Holl at 2m
Move Dermott to the right side

- mr.sir


I hope they can get DeMelo for 3.5 per.. Maybe on a 4 yr deal.. Maybe he'll want stability, seeing on how he has been on 3 teams in the past 4 years.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:43 AM ET
What are the Leafs needs?

RHD
3C
Big winger to play with 34
Goalie

Only team that can give us “one stop shopping “ = CBJ

Savard
Jenner
Anderson
Merzlikins

- mr.sir


What do we have to give up? Also, I think the goalie CBJ moves is Korpisalo... which is fine as well.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 16 @ 9:45 AM ET
What are the Leafs needs?

RHD
3C
Big winger to play with 34
Goalie

Only team that can give us “one stop shopping “ = CBJ

Savard
Jenner
Anderson
Merzlikins

- mr.sir


We won't be able to get all that in 1 offfseason. I don't thin we need a big winger to play with Matthews. That's a luxury.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
If he will cost 3.5m.....

Rather keep Holl at 2m
Move Dermott to the right side

- mr.sir



Hell no
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:46 AM ET
Leafs will probably get a top4 guy like Cam Fowler, a guy that hasn't been mentioned at all that much recently in connection to Leafs or trades in general.

If I remember well, Fowler has played some games on RHD (no idea whether that worked out well - I haven't seen an Anaheims game in quite a while; don't think I've seen them play this season).

A Rielly - Fowler or Muzzin - Fowler pairing could potentially work.
that 6.5mln AAV is a hefty contract though, and no idea about the asking price from ANA (no signing bonuses on that contract, so ANA might be interested in dealing him?). I guess Johnsson and Kerfoot for Fowler could work if Anaheim is really looking to save some cash. I'd like to see ANA add Heinen -- but then Leafs would probably have to add an additional significan piece.

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 16 @ 9:47 AM ET
What are the Leafs needs?

RHD
3C
Big winger to play with 34
Goalie


Only team that can give us “one stop shopping “ = CBJ

Savard
Jenner
Anderson
Merzlikins

- mr.sir



Surprise surprise - those have been Leafs' needs since before last season..
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
Yeah, but that's exactly why he has so much value.

Is Florida interested in Ekblad for Willy?

Probably not - it doesn't save them much money.

Ekblad for Robertson - and Florida can even eat some salary?

It's a completely different picture.

Leafs' window is what, four more years? If you put down the pitcher of blue kool-aid for a moment, is he really going to be an impact player in the next 3?

I'm just saying it's the first time I've seen anyone suggesting trading Robertson, and it made me stop and think.

And I'll just point out that the guy is far from a sure thing at this point - the jury is still out.

- Atomic Wedgie


I don't hate the idea but if push comes to shove I trade Sandin before Robertson.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
Hell no
- Steven_Seagull

Dermott at 2m> Demelo at 3.5m
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