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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:13 PM ET
Any interest in Athanasiou? TSN Reports:


He could add some speed to our lineup

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Will they take Ghost for him?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:14 PM ET
If they plan on using him as a winger it’s even worse. You don’t trade center for winger who’s paid more with less production. Bad trade for trades sake
- SMS4016


Shake up the core if the status quo isn't working, right?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 9:36 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]Shake up the core if the status quo isn't working, right?
No one ever said trade core for 3rd line aging winger
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 9:37 PM ET
Shake up the core if the status quo isn't working, right?
- jmatchett383

Pretty sure g or Jake would bring back a lot more asset than Johansson. Guerin a horrible gm.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:37 PM ET
If they plan on using him as a winger it’s even worse. You don’t trade center for winger who’s paid more with less production. Bad trade for trades sake
- SMS4016


How do you figure? They get a younger winger that they can re-sign at a lower cap hit for a 35 year old who is on the decline. He has better point totals in the past but he is not guaranteed to hit that next season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:52 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]Shake up the core if the status quo isn't working, right?
No one ever said trade core for 3rd line aging winger

- SMS4016


But status quo man, shake it up. Make a trade, the core can't win.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 9:54 PM ET
But status quo man, shake it up. Make a trade, the core can't win.
- jmatchett383

So far that is a proven fact
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 9:56 PM ET
How do you figure? They get a younger winger that they can re-sign at a lower cap hit for a 35 year old who is on the decline. He has better point totals in the past but he is not guaranteed to hit that next season.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Johansson is 30. 364 points in 11 seasons. He’s not gonna resign for lower cap hit. Staal was minnys top line center. Obviously his best days are behind him. But he’s got a few years left as decent 2nd line or 3rd line center. Plus plenty of intangibles. That’s still worth something today. Minny is a team that needs complete rebuild. Johansson will get then 30-35 points next to seasons then leave. Very underwhelming for an asset that could’ve definitely got at least a little more
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 9:59 PM ET
Baker having career game. Still blows
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 17 @ 10:04 PM ET
jake gardiner is one. Subban is another possibly. Yes not young but puck moving.

Ghost just needs to be moved for the betterment of everyone if he isnt going to play. If he finds success elsewhere so be it.

What teams would even want him? Arizona only has a few guys under contract after this year. I myself think the oilers would. Winnipeg? Don't think the market is all that big.

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Besides Edmonton and Winnipeg, here are the rest of the teams that need to make an addition or alteration on defense. Granted some teams will be able to re-sign UFAs they had last season or promote prospects, but they do need make some change. There are also other teams not listed that will for other reasons choose to make a change on defense. As to which ones are interested in Ghost, IDK.

Boston
Buffalo
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Detroit
Florida
Los Angeles
Minnesota
New Jersey
NY Rangers
Ottawa
San Jose
St. Louis
Tampa
Vancouver
Vegas
Washington

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:09 PM ET
Besides Edmonton and Winnipeg, here are the rest of the teams that need to make an addition or alteration on defense. Granted some teams will be able to re-sign UFAs they had last season or promote prospects, but they do need make some change. There are also other teams not listed that will for other reasons choose to make a change on defense. As to which ones are interested in Ghost, IDK.

Boston
Buffalo
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Detroit
Florida
Los Angeles
Minnesota
New Jersey
NY Rangers
Ottawa
San Jose
St. Louis
Tampa
Vancouver
Vegas
Washington

- NC Flyers Fan

I can see Boston with interest if they lose krug in Fa maybe Detroit too
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
Besides Edmonton and Winnipeg, here are the rest of the teams that need to make an addition or alteration on defense. Granted some teams will be able to re-sign UFAs they had last season or promote prospects, but they do need make some change. There are also other teams not listed that will for other reasons choose to make a change on defense. As to which ones are interested in Ghost, IDK.

Boston
Buffalo
Calgary
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Detroit
Florida
Los Angeles
Minnesota
New Jersey
NY Rangers
Ottawa
San Jose
St. Louis
Tampa
Vancouver
Vegas
Washington

- NC Flyers Fan


Agree. And I’d add more teams.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 10:13 PM ET
Agree. And I’d add more teams.
- Peter Richards

Guess can expect a bidding war for ghost if all
Those teams and then some need to make adjustments on d
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
Johansson is 30. 364 points in 11 seasons. He’s not gonna resign for lower cap hit. Staal was minnys top line center. Obviously his best days are behind him. But he’s got a few years left as decent 2nd line or 3rd line center. Plus plenty of intangibles. That’s still worth something today. Minny is a team that needs complete rebuild. Johansson will get then 30-35 points next to seasons then leave. Very underwhelming for an asset that could’ve definitely got at least a little more
- SMS4016



You're argument makes no sense. You say he wont re-sign at a lower cap hit and that he is going to leave but then you say he's going to get 30-35 points....

What mystery team is going to give him 4.5 mill to get 35 points?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
You're argument makes no sense. You say he wont re-sign at a lower cap hit and that he is going to leave but then you say he's going to get 30-35 points....

What mystery team is going to give him 4.5 mill to get 35 points?

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Your right. I meant he’s not worth his pay now. And someone will over pay him in fa in a couple years that he won’t be worth. Even if it’s less than his current contract
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 10:52 PM ET
Your right. I meant he’s not worth his pay now. And someone will over pay him in fa in a couple years that he won’t be worth. Even if it’s less than his current contract
- SMS4016

Bungals are not looking hot
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:54 PM ET
Your right. I meant he’s not worth his pay now. And someone will over pay him in fa in a couple years that he won’t be worth. Even if it’s less than his current contract
- SMS4016


No one is going to overpay for him unless he is successful this season. No one will give him 4.5 mill for his last few seasons production.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:55 PM ET
Bungals are not looking hot
- login[/quote
They’ll backdoor the point spread. Seen this movie a thousand times
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:56 PM ET
No one is going to overpay for him unless he is successful this season. No one will give him 4.5 mill for his last few seasons production.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There’s always a sucker thinking they can get offense from a stone. Like Jvr.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:59 PM ET
No one is going to overpay for him unless he is successful this season. No one will give him 4.5 mill for his last few seasons production.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Even after this contract if he signs for 2 years 6 mil 3 mil aav that’s stil way overpayment for 30 points or so with basically no tangibles. That’s like nak but at 2 mil more per season.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 11:00 PM ET
There’s always a sucker thinking they can get offense from a stone. Like Jvr.
- SMS4016

Down 12 not a good number. Will
Need a 2 point conversion to boot
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 17 @ 11:00 PM ET
Bengals +6 easy lock of the night tonight. That might be lock of the week right there. Bet the mortgage people. Mayfield blows
2-2-1 so far this week and this an easy move above .500 give me right there

- SMS4016



Betting 101

never pick against the home team on a short week Thursday game, especially if its two bad teams

please stop
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 11:04 PM ET
Down 12 not a good number. Will
Need a 2 point conversion to boot

- login

There’s the baker the betting man loves 😂
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 11:04 PM ET
Betting 101

never pick against the home team on a short week Thursday game, especially if its two bad teams

please stop

- KINGKENZO


You’ll see
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
You’ll see
- SMS4016

wow....who saw that coming.....I hate mayfield so much
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