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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 12:00 PM ET

With the way our division is looking I see the Rangers, Flyers, Canes (if they can land a decent goalie) and the Islanders as the the teams making noise next season. I believe the Pens window is closed but they’ll try to add to their lineup in futility imo. I really hope Lameriello doesn’t get all nostalgic with players like Martin. The guy had a great playoff run and I love the guy but we’re going to have to make some real tough decisions over the next month or so. I’m really hoping we add some decent wingers to flank Pageau with some mid tier talent.

We traded a decent package for the guy and invested a chunk of cap space into him Lameriello should give him a legit shot to excel the team will 100% be better for it. That to me is the most important add this team needs. No more kuhnackl or Brassard they’ve been decent players for us but it’s time to move on. If Sorokin plays as billed and Dobson who I thought looked pretty good last game (minus a few missteps he moved the puck REAL WELL) steps in we’re going to be in a real good spot. If one of or both of bellows and or Wahlstrom can contribute at a decent level on the third line with Pageau watch out we’ll be a legit powerhouse imo.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
I was completely against the idea of drafting Hedman. Keaner and a couple other posters on here wanted Hedman bad and we had some crazy fifteen page debates on here about it. Without even factoring in Tavares leaving in FA to me Hedman was the right choice the guy is an absolute (frank)ing monster. The guy literally does every, single, thing a defenseman could or should do at a elite level. He is incredible and watching him play in this last series cemented it for me.
- Cptmjl

he may be the best in the league
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
With the way our division is looking I see the Rangers, Flyers, Canes (if they can land a decent goalie) and the Islanders as the the teams making noise next season. I believe the Pens window is closed but they’ll try to add to their lineup in futility imo. I really hope Lameriello doesn’t get all nostalgic with players like Martin. The guy had a great playoff run and I love the guy but we’re going to have to make some real tough decisions over the next month or so. I’m really hoping we add some decent wingers to flank Pageau with some mid tier talent.

We traded a decent package for the guy and invested a chunk of cap space into him Lameriello should give him a legit shot to excel the team will 100% be better for it. That to me is the most important add this team needs. No more kuhnackl or Brassard they’ve been decent players for us but it’s time to move on. If Sorokin plays as billed and Dobson who I thought looked pretty good last game (minus a few missteps he moved the puck REAL WELL) steps in we’re going to be in a real good spot. If one of or both of bellows and or Wahlstrom can contribute at a decent level on the third line with Pageau watch out we’ll be a legit powerhouse imo.

- Cptmjl


Agree with this all.

Just a crazy idea but what if you can get Kessel (who’s production last year dipped with the Yotes who are looking to dump salary) having the Yotes take on some of his salary or take Hickey, or some other non playing contract. Maybe Lou can get creative with Ladd going there.
Would you take a shot at Kessel who is a RW and could be a nice addition to any line as far as a sniper/ shoot first guy we need? A line of Barzal, Lee and Kessel could be pretty productive.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
he may be the best in the league
- Upstate_isles

He is imo.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
Agree with this all.

Just a crazy idea but what if you can get Kessel (who’s production last year dipped with the Yotes who are looking to dump salary) having the Yotes take on some of his salary or take Hickey, or some other non playing contract. Maybe Lou can get creative with Ladd going there.
Would you take a shot at Kessel who is a RW and could be a nice addition to any line as far as a sniper/ shoot first guy we need? A line of Barzal, Lee and Kessel could be pretty productive.

- nyisles7

If Lameriello doesn’t feel bellows or Wahlstrom aren’t going to be part of this lineup next season I wouldn’t be opposed to it but I doubt the yotes would retain enough salary to make it feasible for us. With that said I think he could be a real good add potentially but I just don’t think it would work out numbers wise. I also have a feeling Lameriello is going to revisit that Parise trade both sides wanted it to happen.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
If Lameriello doesn’t feel bellows or Wahlstrom aren’t going to be part of this lineup next season I wouldn’t be opposed to it but I doubt the yotes would retain enough salary to make it feasible for us. With that said I think he could be a real good add potentially but I just don’t think it would work out numbers wise. I also have a feeling Lameriello is going to revisit that Parise trade both sides wanted it to happen.
- Cptmjl


Yeah, I agree it would take some creativity by Lou and there is the Parise trade you mentioned. One thing is the Yotes look to be in financial trouble as always so maybe there’s a way to get it done. I think Kessel would bring a lot of what this team needs as would Parise although Parise is signed through 24/25 season and Kessel is signed through 21/22 season. Another thing is Parise is 36 and Phill is 32.
Because of that I would rather Phill if it can be managed. Plus I think he’s that shooter everyone is screaming for.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yeah, I agree it would take some creativity by Lou and there is the Parise trade you mentioned. One thing is the Yotes look to be in financial trouble as always so maybe there’s a way to get it done. I think Kessel would bring a lot of what this team needs as would Parise although Parise is signed through 24/25 season and Kessel is signed through 21/22 season. Another thing is Parise is 36 and Phill is 32.
Because of that I would rather Phill if it can be managed. Plus I think he’s that shooter everyone is screaming for.

- nyisles7

I don’t disagree and if Kessel could regain his form somewhat which I believe is possible he could add a ton to the powerplay. I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to it if they could work it out numbers wise. Wonder how he would fit in with the team and Trotz or whether he would even be on Lameriello’s radar?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
I don’t disagree and if Kessel could regain his form somewhat which I believe is possible he could add a ton to the powerplay. I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to it if they could work it out numbers wise. Wonder how he would fit in with the team and Trotz or whether he would even be on Lameriello’s radar?
- Cptmjl


Being there is a need for a scorer on the right side and Kessel’s name is out there on the trade list you would think he’s in the discussions around the Isles management table.
I think he could play on either line 1 through 3 and add a scoring dimension needed.
He has always had a reputation of being high maintenance but I think Trotz would be able to reel that in.
Again with him on the trade list I’m just Throwing it out there.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Sep 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
Bonus point number 32 was nice to see and totally agree with.
- nyisles7

Yes. I forgot about that one.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
Yes. I forgot about that one.
- chazpet

TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Sep 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Being there is a need for a scorer on the right side and Kessel’s name is out there on the trade list you would think he’s in the discussions around the Isles management table.
I think he could play on either line 1 through 3 and add a scoring dimension needed.
He has always had a reputation of being high maintenance but I think Trotz would be able to reel that in.
Again with him on the trade list I’m just Throwing it out there.

- nyisles7

Top 50 poster here. I like the Kessel Idea.

Separately would it take to get Laine?

And what type of value would Mayfield have as a right handed D that every team seems to covet and need. Not sure what Jets want/need for Laine or I’m interested in trading Mayfield but he’s developed into a solid 2nd pair Dman, Dobson is close, Pulock likely not a consideration and Boychuk prob not tradable. Plus he’s on a very friendly contract for another year or two I believe.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
Top 50 poster here. I like the Kessel Idea.

Separately would it take to get Laine?

And what type of value would Mayfield have as a right handed D that every team seems to covet and need. Not sure what Jets want/need for Laine or I’m interested in trading Mayfield but he’s developed into a solid 2nd pair Dman, Dobson is close, Pulock likely not a consideration and Boychuk prob not tradable. Plus he’s on a very friendly contract for another year or two I believe.

- TogaIsles




Bottom of the barrel poster here.

I think as everyone that if a dman is moved it’s most likely Leddy. I don’t think the Islanders move Mayfield because of the value his contract brings. As far as Laine I truly don’t believe they will trade him, unless of course someone makes a proposal they can’t ignore or makes sense. The Jets are looking for a #1 center and are dangling Dumba as trade bait. Don’t know if Dumba brings them a # 1 center but should get them someone to help down the middle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brassard is a jet next year as a depth move at center. Don’t think the islanders resign him and he’s a fit there. Just my opinion of course.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Sep 19 @ 3:14 PM ET


Bottom of the barrel poster here.

I think as everyone that if a dman is moved it’s most likely Leddy. I don’t think the Islanders move Mayfield because of the value his contract brings. As far as Laine I truly don’t believe they will trade him, unless of course someone makes a proposal they can’t ignore or makes sense. The Jets are looking for a #1 center and are dangling Dumba as trade bait. Don’t know if Dumba brings them a # 1 center but should get them someone to help down the middle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brassard is a jet next year as a depth move at center. Don’t think the islanders resign him and he’s a fit there. Just my opinion of course.

- nyisles7

Yes Leddy has been rumored for a few years now. And not saying Mayfield should be moved, just HockeyBuzzin what type of return he might bring considering his skill set and contract? He must have value to a bunch of teams needing RH dman. If jets move Dumba they’ll need to replace him. Mayfield plus what gets Laine? Is this worth a look or is Mayfield completely off table?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
Yes Leddy has been rumored for a few years now. And not saying Mayfield should be moved, just HockeyBuzzin what type of return he might bring considering his skill set and contract? He must have value to a bunch of teams needing RH dman. If jets move Dumba they’ll need to replace him. Mayfield plus what gets Laine? Is this worth a look or is Mayfield completely off table?
- TogaIsles


I getcha Toga. I don’t think anyone is off the table. If someone comes and makes an offer that fills a need Lou and Barry are seeking then see ya. The thing is the Islanders don’t have the room really and Mayfield has a great value as far as contract so I don’t think they trade him.
Laine is gonna cost a ton, straight up probs Pulock? Package maybe Toews or Mayfield Wahlstrom and a puck or another prospect? Tough to take on that contract without equal or more going back.Just my opinion but I just don’t see them trading Laine. What do you think it takes to get Laine?
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Sep 19 @ 3:54 PM ET
I getcha Toga. I don’t think anyone is off the table. If someone comes and makes an offer that fills a need Lou and Barry are seeking then see ya. The thing is the Islanders don’t have the room really and Mayfield has a great value as far as contract so I don’t think they trade him.
Laine is gonna cost a ton, straight up probs Pulock? Package maybe Toews or Mayfield Wahlstrom and a puck or another prospect? Tough to take on that contract without equal or more going back.Just my opinion but I just don’t see them trading Laine. What do you think it takes to get Laine?

- nyisles7

Maybe a package of Mayfield, Bailey or Ebs (to shed salary to pay for Laine) and 2021 2nd? I’m realty not sure that gets it done but that’s prob all I’d do. Can’t give up another first seeing we don’t have one this year.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Sep 19 @ 4:07 PM ET


We traded a decent package for

- Cptmjl[Pageau] and invested a chunk of cap space into him Lameriello should give him a legit shot to excel the team will 100% be better for it. ..... No more kuhnackl or Brassard they’ve been decent players for us but it’s time to move on. .





I got me another parrot. My post from months ago, word for word.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Sep 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
Lou will have to bundle players we want with players we don't in order to make cap space. A GM would typically give draft picks to unload cap to a willing team, but....well, we don't have any picks left.

The cost of the Pageau trade may come back to haunt Lou. Good player at a decent price, but he didn't get us to the promised land and will complicate us re-signing our FA's.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Maybe a package of Mayfield, Bailey or Ebs (to shed salary to pay for Laine) and 2021 2nd? I’m realty not sure that gets it done but that’s prob all I’d do. Can’t give up another first seeing we don’t have one this year.
- TogaIsles


Seems fair but I just don’t see the Jets trading Laine but who knows. Lou and Pellegrini( who’s a cap wiz ) I’m sure will come up with something to clear some cap space to go after some offensive help.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
Lou will have to bundle players we want with players we don't in order to make cap space. A GM would typically give draft picks to unload cap to a willing team, but....well, we don't have any picks left.

The cost of the Pageau trade may come back to haunt Lou. Good player at a decent price, but he didn't get us to the promised land and will complicate us re-signing our FA's.

- Puckin_Island

The pageau deal is a good one as he plays in all situations and is great in the circle. Also he's signed long term so I think that's what made the deal worth while. The one thing all teams do covet is draft picks so west out there however the rangers didn't have a 1st rounded for years and they went deep a bunch of times
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:02 PM ET


I got me another parrot. My post from months ago, word for word.

- Puckin_Island

You have something wrong with you. Any post I’ve read of yours has made my eyes bleed so even the insinuation that I plagiarized any of the moronic bull crap you diarrhea on this page is hysterical.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Sep 19 @ 5:50 PM ET
You have something wrong with you. Any post I’ve read of yours has made my eyes bleed so even the insinuation that I plagiarized any of the moronic bull crap you diarrhea on this page is hysterical.
- Cptmjl


you know it's true, pops.

Now go bandage your eyes.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
You have something wrong with you. Any post I’ve read of yours has made my eyes bleed so even the insinuation that I plagiarized any of the moronic bull crap you diarrhea on this page is hysterical.
- Cptmjl



Wait Barzal to the wing? That’s a Puckin beauty
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Sep 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
The pageau deal is a good one as he plays in all situations and is great in the circle. Also he's signed long term so I think that's what made the deal worth while. The one thing all teams do covet is draft picks so west out there however the rangers didn't have a 1st rounded for years and they went deep a bunch of times
- Upstate_isles


I really like Pags, but we could have waited and signed him as a free agent AFTER re-signing our FA's. As I said at the time, he isn't enough to get us a cup, and I was right. We'll see what that trade costs us if we can't afford 1 of our pending. I also complained about what we gave up for someone to center our lowest scoring winger and 'you pick him' on the other side. What a waste.

A message for the idiot corp: Somehow, in this often moronic forum, that added up to my "trashing his contract". Now those same idiots are parroting what I said all along.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Sep 19 @ 6:01 PM ET
Wait Barzal to the wing? That’s a Puckin beauty
- nyisles7


Your 'ref wagged his finger' rule is the all time classic.
"but..but...these are the playoffs" THAT'S a puckin beauty.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 6:06 PM ET
Your 'ref wagged his finger' rule is the all time classic.
"but..but...these are the playoffs" THAT'S a puckin beauty.

- Puckin_Island



Wrong again butt plug. Never said that but ok.
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