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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:14 PM ET
The man who think Nylander can't be moved think s the 3rd liner and 1 time 40 point player didn't get enough with 15th overall+Pens top prospect. LOL
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
The man who think Nylander can't be moved think s the 3rd liner and 1 time 40 point player didn't get enough with 15th overall+Pens top prospect. LOL
- RogerRoeper

I've heard a lot of teams don't like Nylander, because he's in front of the net too much scoring goals, meaning other guys won't get to do that.

Nylander is not a team player.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
I've heard a lot of teams don't like Nylander, because he's in front of the net too much scoring goals, meaning other guys won't get to do that.

Nylander is not a team player.

- Atomic Wedgie


Worst top 6 player in the NHL, will have to retain salary to get rid of him. 🤣
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
Interesting look at AP and the leafs

https://twitter.com/JeffV.../1308439203215269888?s=19
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
It isn't a 'great return'.
Kapanen is worth more than that 15th overall, and the prospect might never make it to NHL. So the jury is still out on that trade

- MaximusAurelius


So Kapanen is worth more than the 15th overall.

But the jury is still out on the trade because we don't yet know the value of the 15th overall pick.

I'm amazed that you know the value of the 15th pick while simultaneously not knowing the value of the 15th pick.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
It isn't a 'great return'.
Kapanen is worth more than that 15th overall, and the prospect might never make it to NHL. So the jury is still out on that trade

- MaximusAurelius

A 15th in this draft is much better than Kapanen. If they make the right pick.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
A 15th in this draft is much better than Kapanen. If they make the right pick.
- AdamFrench

Don't worry, I'm confident we won't.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think you are in a minority of people (aside from Islanders and Nucks trolls) who think the Leafs didn't get a very good return on Kapanen. 15th pick in an expected very good draft, a decent prospect and $3.2M of cap space. Leafs did ok IMO
- winsix

I think they did ok. But not a 'great return' as some want to sell it as. Kapanen is a legit 3rd line winger with upside who can play pk and with the right linemates could be a decent 2nd liner.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
I mean DeMelo is pretty decent as a 4-5. Bogosian has looked ok playing 16 minutes a night...but "upgrade" is stretching it on those guys.
- AdamFrench


I don't see them as significant enough upgrades to bother.

Pursue a coach who can get the team to play team defense, and a goalie who doesn't poop the bed in the most important games.

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
A 15th in this draft is much better than Kapanen. If they make the right pick.
- AdamFrench


Guhle at #15 and Shakir Mukhamadullin at #44
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
So here's the question:

If the Leafs tell them they have $56M over 7 years to give him, here's a computer with an excel spreadsheet, you and your agent structure it any way you want it, does that get a deal done?

- Atomic Wedgie


Someone else will offer more.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Don't worry, I'm confident we won't.
- Atomic Wedgie

Askarov
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
It isn't a 'great return'.
Kapanen is worth more than that 15th overall, and the prospect might never make it to NHL. So the jury is still out on that trade

- MaximusAurelius

You know what the jury is still out on? Kapanen necessarily being worth more than the 15 overall pick.

That remains to be seen.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
I don't see them as significant enough upgrades to bother.

Pursue a coach who can get the team to play team defense, and a goalie who doesn't poop the bed in the most important games.

- Aetherial


Excellent points
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
So Kapanen is worth more than the 15th overall.

But the jury is still out on the trade because we don't yet know the value of the 15th overall pick.

I'm amazed that you know the value of the 15th pick while simultaneously not knowing the value of the 15th pick.

- Leafs43

The jury is out bc of unknown future of hallander (not a sure bet to make nhl). And 15th pick - not sure who will be player picked, at least Kapanen is sure value
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
Why would we trade a young player for an old one.
Havent we learned from doing that all those years in the past?

- Fakepartofme


we need $ going out if $ is coming back in.

johnsson doesn't have much upside. that's not a trade that would come back to haunt us.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
Askarov
- AdamFrench


Unfortunately he'll be gone by pick #13


Trade for Anaheim's pick and get Drysdale or Askarov whichever is available

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
I think they did ok. But not a 'great return' as some want to sell it as. Kapanen is a legit 3rd line winger with upside who can play pk and with the right linemates could be a decent 2nd liner.
- MaximusAurelius

Marner and Tavares weren't good enough?

Matthews and Nylander weren't the right guys?

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
Perhaps, a lot of people would really like Pietrangelo to sign with the Leafs, but are not sure how to feel about it, if it means we lose Nylander...

Or is that just me?

- PatC80


No it isn't just you.

Signing high priced free agents has never been a good strategy. Tavares is no exception and neither is Pietrangelo.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
No it isn't just you.

Signing high priced free agents has never been a good strategy. Tavares is no exception and neither is Pietrangelo.

- Aetherial

Clarkson?

Komisarov?

Finger?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
We should know a lot more about the financial position of teams beginning Sep 25th.

Lots of buyouts will show how desperate some teams are to save cash.

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
So Kapanen is worth more than the 15th overall.

But the jury is still out on the trade because we don't yet know the value of the 15th overall pick.

I'm amazed that you know the value of the 15th pick while simultaneously not knowing the value of the 15th pick.

- Leafs43

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
My lunch plans have changed, thanks to my dog eating the loaf of bread sitting on the counter.

Franking dog.

- Atomic Wedgie


Do you ever feed your dog Wedgie? It sure seems to eat lots of your stuff.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't see them as significant enough upgrades to bother.

Pursue a coach who can get the team to play team defense, and a goalie who doesn't poop the bed in the most important games.

- Aetherial

Keefe has had success at every level and to do that you can't be a one-trick pony who relies solely on offense or defense.

Let's give Keefe a chance to run with a team for an entire season. A team that isn't severely flawed (Dubas, fix the damn d-corps and add some sandpaper to the forward group!).

Agreed on the goalie situation though. One wonders how Andy would do with a team that could be a bit more well-rounded?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
We should know a lot more about the financial position of teams beginning Sep 25th.

Lots of buyouts will show how desperate some teams are to save cash.

- The Law

I'm wondering if a few small market teams will elect to do nothing on the first day of free agency.

Just sit and watch the clouds go by for a couple of months, hoping to get a better picture of what the situation will be.

If it turns out that it's only a 48 game season with limited spectators, some teams may be OK with simply doing nothing, gritting their teeth and getting through the season, and worrying about improving the team a year later.
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