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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 28 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yea, agree with you, it still looks a little patchy.

Maybe if we get Mr X, and added, say a Erik Cernak (deleting one of the others) - it would look a whole lot better. I want Cernak for 2nd pairing!

Think Heinola is ready for the vigors of the NHL?

- grahamzky


Best use of Cernak:
Morrissey-Cernak
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo

We know Heinola is ready. Morrissey gets the useful big boi we all apparently want. Samberg (whom is enormous) gets a safety blanket
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
WHL pedigree, AHL production, draft position, and visible talent
- Rexypoo


A lot guys have come and gone over the years like Petan, great in JUnior, great in the NHL - and then ??? They don't ever really make it.

Believe it was Ross who stated that 1 of 5 first round picks don't make it. A problem on the ice, or off the ice?

Many of these that don't make it lack one key ingredient, whether it's speed, shot, intensity, out of shape, physicality, etc.

Can't believe we're still talking Petan. What about Eric Fehr and Oli Jokinen?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 5:38 PM ET
Best use of Cernak:
Morrissey-Cernak
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo

We know Heinola is ready. Morrissey gets the useful big boi we all apparently want. Samberg (whom is enormous) gets a safety blanket

- Rexypoo


Yes, with that contingent Cernak should be on first pairing. I agree. I'm just hoping we get that better d-man to play with Morrissey, and Cernak could slide down to second pairing.

Hope you're right about Heinola and Samberg being ready - huge for the Jets if true. Still we need some sandpaper like Borowiecki - and we really need some muscle on 4th line. IF the Jets were to get, say, Ryan Pulock, then Clutterbuck would probably have to accompany him for cap reasons.

Heinola needs to have put on like 20 lbs of muscle.

I know, Pulock might be a pipe dream, but don't try and take dreaming away from me. lol
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Sep 28 @ 5:55 PM ET
A lot guys have come and gone over the years like Petan, great in JUnior, great in the NHL - and then ??? They don't ever really make it.

Believe it was Ross who stated that 1 of 5 first round picks don't make it. A problem on the ice, or off the ice?

Many of these that don't make it lack one key ingredient, whether it's speed, shot, intensity, out of shape, physicality, etc.

Can't believe we're still talking Petan. What about Eric Fehr and Oli Jokinen?

- grahamzky


Petan, Rattie and Leipsic were quite the line in the WHL .....need I say more ?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 28 @ 6:11 PM ET
A lot guys have come and gone over the years like Petan, great in JUnior, great in the NHL - and then ??? They don't ever really make it.

Believe it was Ross who stated that 1 of 5 first round picks don't make it. A problem on the ice, or off the ice?

Many of these that don't make it lack one key ingredient, whether it's speed, shot, intensity, out of shape, physicality, etc.

Can't believe we're still talking Petan. What about Eric Fehr and Oli Jokinen?

- grahamzky


That’s Stanley Cup winner Eric Fehr and 91 point man Olli Jokinen to you.

But regardless of that, Petan is a success. Solid NHL stats. He just got his perceived value tanked by the Jets
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 28 @ 6:14 PM ET
Yes, with that contingent Cernak should be on first pairing. I agree. I'm just hoping we get that better d-man to play with Morrissey, and Cernak could slide down to second pairing.

Hope you're right about Heinola and Samberg being ready - huge for the Jets if true. Still we need some sandpaper like Borowiecki - and we really need some muscle on 4th line. IF the Jets were to get, say, Ryan Pulock, then Clutterbuck would probably have to accompany him for cap reasons.

Heinola needs to have put on like 20 lbs of muscle.

I know, Pulock might be a pipe dream, but don't try and take dreaming away from me. lol

- grahamzky


You are way too fixated on size for a guy watching a team full of 5’11” forwards facing off against a team whose best defenceman are under 200lbs.

I’d prefer a 180lbs Heinola to a 215 Heinola, because one will be considerably faster than the other. Borowiecki is just bad. Pulock makes sense, but I’m not touching Clutterbuck.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Sep 28 @ 6:15 PM ET
That’s Stanley Cup winner Eric Fehr and 91 point man Olli Jokinen to you.

But regardless of that, Petan is a success. Solid NHL stats. He just got his perceived value tanked by the Jets

- Rexypoo


Sort of like your perceived knowledge of hockey. Not at all the same as reality.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 28 @ 6:16 PM ET
Petan, Rattie and Leipsic were quite the line in the WHL .....need I say more ?
- bennythehat


Rattie was a miss.
Petan is a hit.
Leipsic was jerked around because of his size even though he’s a capable NHLer, then got himself cancelled for being a garbage human.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 6:16 PM ET
Top 6/Bottom 6, you're thinking like Maurice, it doesn't work.
- JetFuel

This!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Sep 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
Sort of like your perceived knowledge of hockey. Not at all the same as reality.
- bennythehat


Agreed. It's funny watching him dig his own hole deeper and deeper with each successive post.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
You are way too fixated on size for a guy watching a team full of 5’11” forwards facing off against a team whose best defenceman are under 200lbs.

I’d prefer a 180lbs Heinola to a 215 Heinola, because one will be considerably faster than the other. Borowiecki is just bad. Pulock makes sense, but I’m not touching Clutterbuck.

- Rexypoo


Not sure where you're going with this "you are away too fixated for a guy watching a team full of 5'11 forwards" etc? You talking Jets?

Heinola? I said 20 pounds of "muscle." Not flab!

You think Borowiecki is bad and you won't touch Clutterbuck? Watching the Stanley Cup final, do you not think that Perry and Pat Maroon, neither one known for their scoring now, (Perry used to be), are helping their teams reach for the promised land? Borow and Clutter would do the same for the Jets - at least make they would make them better - and the small players bigger.

Let me guess - you are a female/male - small in stature?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 6:49 PM ET


The Bolts win the SC tonight!

6'6" Victor Hedman wins the Conn Smythe! 5'10 Brayden Point the runner-up!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
Yeah, I don’t know about that blueline at all.
-Poolman isn’t top 4 material, and if Heinola had any issues adjusting to the smaller ice (he shouldn’t), that pairing gets slaughtered.
-Boro is a delightful man, but an AHL level defenceman.
-Gudas would be smart, but he needs a partner that can move the puck. Niku?

- Rexypoo


I’ll be so mad if we sign Hamonic, who I feel is worse than Poolman right now to be our third pair right D and pay him over 3 million to be worse than the guy getting sat making 700k
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 6:52 PM ET
Yes, with that contingent Cernak should be on first pairing. I agree. I'm just hoping we get that better d-man to play with Morrissey, and Cernak could slide down to second pairing.

Hope you're right about Heinola and Samberg being ready - huge for the Jets if true. Still we need some sandpaper like Borowiecki - and we really need some muscle on 4th line. IF the Jets were to get, say, Ryan Pulock, then Clutterbuck would probably have to accompany him for cap reasons.

Heinola needs to have put on like 20 lbs of muscle.

I know, Pulock might be a pipe dream, but don't try and take dreaming away from me. lol

- grahamzky


I’d Probably do Connor for Pulock straight up. I’d probably ask for a little more but if pushed, I’d probably do it
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 7:37 PM ET
Not sure where you're going with this "you are away too fixated for a guy watching a team full of 5'11 forwards" etc? You talking Jets?

Heinola? I said 20 pounds of "muscle." Not flab!

You think Borowiecki is bad and you won't touch Clutterbuck? Watching the Stanley Cup final, do you not think that Perry and Pat Maroon, neither one known for their scoring now, (Perry used to be), are helping their teams reach for the promised land? Borow and Clutter would do the same for the Jets - at least make they would make them better - and the small players bigger.

Let me guess - you are a female/male - small in stature?

- grahamzky

I am confused. Is this a hockey discussion board? I do not see what Rexypoo's height has to do with anything. For all we know, he could be 6"11 and have difficulty purchasing clothes his height.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 7:49 PM ET
I’ll be so mad if we sign Hamonic, who I feel is worse than Poolman right now to be our third pair right D and pay him over 3 million to be worse than the guy getting sat making 700k
- Ross77


Totally agree!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 7:56 PM ET
I’d Probably do Connor for Pulock straight up. I’d probably ask for a little more but if pushed, I’d probably do it
- Ross77


Substitute Connor for Laine. Why don't you like Connor, signed for 6 years at great price, jells well with Scheif and Wheeler, and would have scored 40 goals last season without postponement. Second most exciting player to watch on team (Ehlers 1st)

Problem is that the Isles couldn't cap wise do a one-for-one and take on salary.

For whatever reason, Connor is severely under-appreciated by his own "fans," Why?
I really don't get it!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 7:57 PM ET
I am confused. Is this a hockey discussion board? I do not see what Rexypoo's height has to do with anything. For all we know, he could be 6"11 and have difficulty purchasing clothes his height.
- TheUltimateJet


6'11? Can he skate?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Substitute Connor for Laine. Why don't you like Connor, signed for 6 years at great price, jells well with Scheif and Wheeler, and would have scored 40 goals last season without postponement. Second most exciting player to watch on team (Ehlers 1st)

Problem is that the Isles couldn't cap wise do a one-for-one and take on salary.

For whatever reason, Connor is severely under-appreciated by his own "fans," Why?
I really don't get it!

- grahamzky

I love Connor. I bought a heritage blue Connor jersey that I am just dying to wear to a Jets game!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 28 @ 8:21 PM ET
Yea, agree with you, it still looks a little patchy.

Maybe if we get Mr X, and added, say a Erik Cernak (deleting one of the others) - it would look a whole lot better. I want Cernak for 2nd pairing!

Think Heinola is ready for the vigors of the NHL?

- grahamzky


Adding Cernak would be perfect, he could probably handle the top pair job next to Morrissey, would just need a LHD to pair with Pionk and they'd be back to a respectable D core.
Chevy should be trying hard to get Cernak from the cap crunched Lightning.

Heinola looked good in his 8 games, I'd worry about how he'd do in the playoffs though, with the next.season being delayed I wonder if Heinola might be left to play the season in Finland.

I think Samberg was promised a spot so I expect to see him on the Jets even though I think he should be down with the Moose.

As much as I'd like a big LHD to pair with Poolman on the 3rd pair, I also would like to see Niku given a fair shot to sink or swim.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 8:25 PM ET
I love Connor. I bought a heritage blue Connor jersey that I am just dying to wear to a Jets game!
- TheUltimateJet


Just got a Connor jersey as a gift. Couldn't be any better. Life is good!
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Sep 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
I am confused. Is this a hockey discussion board? I do not see what Rexypoo's height has to do with anything. For all we know, he could be 6"11 and have difficulty purchasing clothes his height.
- TheUltimateJet


I suspect that Rexy has trouble getting a cap to fit his head, because his head is so full of hockey wisdom 🤣
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
Not sure where you're going with this "you are away too fixated for a guy watching a team full of 5'11 forwards" etc? You talking Jets?

Heinola? I said 20 pounds of "muscle." Not flab!

You think Borowiecki is bad and you won't touch Clutterbuck? Watching the Stanley Cup final, do you not think that Perry and Pat Maroon, neither one known for their scoring now, (Perry used to be), are helping their teams reach for the promised land? Borow and Clutter would do the same for the Jets - at least make they would make them better - and the small players bigger.

Let me guess - you are a female/male - small in stature?

- grahamzky


Some of these older fellas 1000% benefited from the break!! Perry was having a god awful year, the break absolutely helped his old worn down body recover and Get ready for this one last hurrah and to be fair yes he’s scored some big goals but also cost his team more than a few. Overall he has not been good.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Sep 28 @ 8:47 PM ET
Just got a Connor jersey as a gift. Couldn't be any better. Life is good!
- grahamzky


Connor will score 50 before Laine ever does
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 8:49 PM ET
Substitute Connor for Laine. Why don't you like Connor, signed for 6 years at great price, jells well with Scheif and Wheeler, and would have scored 40 goals last season without postponement. Second most exciting player to watch on team (Ehlers 1st)

Problem is that the Isles couldn't cap wise do a one-for-one and take on salary.

For whatever reason, Connor is severely under-appreciated by his own "fans," Why?
I really don't get it!

- grahamzky


I like Connor !! I do!! And I think he will continue to improve. I just have Laine with a much higher ceiling. But I disagree, he plays well with shief and wheels on the power play but their 5v5 play is not very good!! They are one of the worst top lines in the league actually.
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