Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I wonder what we could get for Petts? and from who - TheGame316
I would imagine a 3C, but as far which one I don't even know where to start. |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now. |
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I would imagine a 3C, but as far which one I don't even know where to start. - Rinosaur
I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.
I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha. |
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You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now. - Rinosaur
Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract and *some* of his stats aren't flattering
I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break |
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I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.
I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Maybe he will have a breakout year in Washington 😂 |
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You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now. - Rinosaur
Oh yea, definitely ready to cherry pick all of Matheson's poor metrics and ignore the positive ones. Then will say Rutherford has no idea what to look for in defenseman...when Matheson is fast and can score goals.... after just female doging that we need to stay away from defensive defenseman |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract
I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break - TheGame316
It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it.
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Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract
I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break - TheGame316
Horny for Matheson or horny for tanev’s rights knowing a deal is 100%?? |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.
I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha. - YouMeAndDupuis9
I would rather not trade him either, but logical next step would be to move him, well logical in Rutherford land.
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Horny for Matheson or horny for tanev’s rights knowing a deal is 100%?? - 10inchTerror
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract and *some* of his stats aren't flattering
I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break - TheGame316
He was on twitter ripping the trade, and in general he’s right. Hornqvist is a devaluing asset with a bad contract but the whole point of offloading Hornqvist is to recoup cap space. He’s still a pretty good hockey player for the time being. This trade probably worsens our on ice product and doesn’t bring back enough cap to justify it. Only like $400k in savings. Not even an AHL call up. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Found this tidbit on Twitter....they have different roles and different positions obviously but one was effecting the 5 on 5 on ice product much worse than the other last year...
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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When looking at potential landing spots for Pettersson, none of those teams have a 3C worthwhile. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Mehness...much, much mehness on this one...
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He was on twitter ripping the trade, and in general he’s right. Hornqvist is a devaluing asset with a bad contract but the whole point of offloading Hornqvist is to recoup cap space. He’s still a pretty good hockey player for the time being. This trade probably worsens our on ice product and doesn’t bring back enough cap to justify it. Only like $400k in savings. Not even an AHL call up. - Victoro311
I don't think it's possible to simply offload Horn for capspace without retaining like we did with Bjugstad, or taking back another contract. Not in a world with a flat cap and Horn coming off 2 declining seasons |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I don't think it's possible to simply offload Horn for capspace without retaining like we did with Bjugstad, or taking back another contract. Not in a world with a flat cap and Horn coming off 2 declining seasons - TheGame316
That’s fair which is why I thought Hornqvist would stay. But if you’re gonna trade him, cap should be retained in a way that you still save a not insignificant cap Figure (we saved like $2.1 mil in the Bjugstad trade) or in a package for a similarly underwhelming player that could be more useful. I think Rutherford tried to go the second rout but whiffed on his target. I don’t think Matheson is more useful to this team than Hornqvist. |
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When looking at potential landing spots for Pettersson, none of those teams have a 3C worthwhile. - Rinosaur
Pettersson 1 mil retained vs Mark Jankowski and Oliver Kylington?
Jankowski had a terrible year in 2020, but he's an excellent PKer and can score 15 goals in the right environment. |
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Pettersson 1 mil retained vs Mark Jankowski and Oliver Kylington?
Jankowski had a terrible year in 2020, but he's an excellent PKer and can score 15 goals in the right environment. - redseerpf
Wouldn’t be looking at taking a LD back though |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Elliotte Friedman
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It appears as if the Hornqvist/Matheson deal is being held up due to an insurance issue — the ability to fully insure contracts against injury. |
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stevens87
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Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA Joined: 10.05.2005
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It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it. - Rinosaur
Everything RW writes resolves around JJ! |
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pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: BC Joined: 10.01.2013
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Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it! |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it. - Rinosaur
Matheson will put PIT as the 5th most expensive blue line |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it! - pens4life-66
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it! - pens4life-66
1st one I posted was last season
This is for the last 3 seasons
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