By how much really?

8x8.5 instead of 7x9?

$500k in cap savings shouldn't cost the Leafs a 1st or a 2nd rd pick
- PatC80

In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.

8x6.9
- Steven_Seagull

OMG, that's Nylander territory

In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.
- Scabeh

and must signed prior to going to UFA otherwise it's only 7 years.

In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.
- Scabeh

I saw that too, Lebrun's article didn't make much sense.. There is no real benefit to Pietrangelo to get an 8th year for a drop to $4M in salary.. It could hurt end up hurting him more than helping him..

If he is still healthy and productive after the 7th year, he can sign a new contract for more than the $4M.

I don't see why he would want to help the Blues out, considering that their relationship is reportedly on the rocks right now.

I don't see the 8th year being a deal breaker.. Sign and trades don't happen in the NHL, why would Pietrangelo potentially hurt his new team by making them give up assets to get him...
- PatC80

Neither do I. I was agreeing to the sign Pietrangelo part because it makes complete sense from the Leafs perspective to do so.

Neither do I. I was agreeing to the sign Pietrangelo part because it makes complete sense from the Leafs perspective to do so.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations

sure, if the 8th year is a deal breaker, it could help.. How much of a cap savings will it actually be?

Maybe a 6th rd pick, if not a 7th rounder
- PatC80

1M-700K

What’s 8M and the ability to signing Petro worth it to you?

Petro has made it very clear the structure of this contract is very important

I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations
- PatC80

You will be very disappointed

6th and 7th round picks gets you the rights to Dakota Joshua

So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?

So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?
- 21peter

Sundin is best Swedish forward.

So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?
- 21peter

The future’s not all it’s cracked up to be

Sundin is best Swedish forward.
- Steven_Seagull

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- 21peter

Worth it.

1M-700K

What’s 8M and the ability to signing Petro worth it to you?

Petro has made it very clear the structure of this contract is very important
- Santo_44

the Leafs can structure the contract any way he wants. That shouldn't be the issue..
If he wants a 8 yr deal, that's fine but it shouldn't cost the Leafs a lot.
I like the idea of Pietrangelo, but I don't see the need to help the Blues out.

you're gonna give them a 1st, or 2nd rd pick and give them all that cap space..

The future’s not all it’s cracked up to be
- Canada Cup

And it may be in the past or the present.

And it may be in the past or the present.
- Scabeh

You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?

You will be very disappointed

6th and 7th round picks gets you the rights to Dakota Joshua
- Santo_44

I won't be disappointed... I really would like Pietrangelo to sign with the Leafs.. If the only way to do that is through a sign and trade, I'm ok with that too but not if we lose a 1st rd pick..

Maybe make it a bigger trade?

Like Johnsson, a 6th and Holl (I got your Gigsy) for Pietrangelo

Worth it.
- Steven_Seagull

I'm in tears

You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?
- Canada Cup

I'll get back to you in 8 years.

I won't be disappointed... I really would like Pietrangelo to sign with the Leafs.. If the only way to do that is through a sign and trade, I'm ok with that too but not if we lose a 1st rd pick..

Maybe make it a bigger trade?

Like Johnsson, a 6th and Holl (I got your Gigsy) for Pietrangelo
- PatC80

Johnsson is enough. Shed some salary, they get a guy

I'll get back to you in 8 years.
- Scabeh

Or we could start the clock over. The world might make sense

I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations
- PatC80

If Pietrangelo and the Blues are as done as it sounds like they are, I think St. Louis is high out of their minds if they think they could/should get a huge return on a sign and trade.

It makes absolutely no sense. At all.

Getting anything at all is already a win for them, really.

You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?
- Canada Cup

Nope. Lolol

Sundin is best Swedish forward.
- Steven_Seagull

Johnsson is enough. Shed some salary, they get a guy
- Canada Cup

yeah my thinking exactly. A trade like that would help both teams, Leafs and Blues both shed salary.. Assuming that Pietrangelo wants to be a Leaf and wants to be for 8 years, of course..

Johnsson would be worth it to me.. I added in Holl, because Gigsy