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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Their bad contracts in no particular order for me are: stone, pacioretty, stastny, martinez, and MAF.
- Feds91Stammer


I don't think Stastny is a bad contract.

Patches though? Man. Yeah, he's overpaid, but it's nothing compared to what they gave up to get him. They'd have Tatar, Suzuki and a few top picks and they'd still be spending less money than they are on Patches.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
I don't think Stastny is a bad contract.

Patches though? Man. Yeah, he's overpaid, but it's nothing compared to what they gave up to get him. They'd have Tatar, Suzuki and a few top picks and they'd still be spending less money than they are on Patches.

- Rinosaur

6.5m is a lot for a 40 point center no?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
6.5m is a lot for a 40 point center no?
- Feds91Stammer


Technically yes, but he's also so good in other aspects of the game. I kind of liken it to what you said about Schmidt. I think $5.5Mish is fair, so yeah $6.5M might be an overpay, but I don't think it's terrible.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
6.5m is a lot for a 40 point center no?
- Feds91Stammer


Technically yes, but he's also so good in other aspects of the game. I kind of liken it to what you said about Schmidt. I think $5.5Mish is fair, so yeah $6.5M might be an overpay, but I don't think it's terrible.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 24 @ 3:31 PM ET
Technically yes, but he's also so good in other aspects of the game. I kind of liken it to what you said about Schmidt. I think $5.5Mish is fair, so yeah $6.5M might be an overpay, but I don't think it's terrible.
- Rinosaur

I mean the really bad ones for them are Martinez and MAF. The other ones are good players that have contracts that are 1-2m too rich for me.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
I mean the really bad ones for them are Martinez and MAF. The other ones are good players that have contracts that are 1-2m too rich for me.
- Feds91Stammer


Agreed. I just still can't get passed the Tatar/Suzuki deal. Vegas, while a good team now, would not only be better they'd be younger.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
Agreed. I just still can't get passed the Tatar/Suzuki deal. Vegas, while a good team now, would not only be better they'd be younger.
- Rinosaur


Plus I think they gave up a 1st/2nd and 3rd to get Tatar, didn’t play him, then retained 500k and traded Him, Suzuki (1st round pick) and a 2nd. Then paid Patches 7.5 per

That’s like 2 1sts, 2 2nds a 3rd and 1 million $ for Max Paccioretti

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
Agreed. I just still can't get passed the Tatar/Suzuki deal. Vegas, while a good team now, would not only be better they'd be younger.
- Rinosaur

They thought Tatar wasn’t any good because he had to play with sorry ass Cody Eakin.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Plus I think they gave up a 1st/2nd and 3rd to get Tatar, didn’t play him, then retained 500k and traded Him, Suzuki (1st round pick) and a 2nd. Then paid Patches 7.5 per

That’s like 2 1sts, 2 2nds a 3rd and 1 million $ for Max Paccioretti

- RoloTahmasee


Maybe the worst series of trades I've seen in recent memory.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
They thought Tatar wasn’t any good because he had to play with sorry ass Cody Eakin.
- Feds91Stammer


They pulled a Pearson on him. He didn't fit in from the get-go and moved on.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
Maybe the worst series of trades I've seen in recent memory.
- Rinosaur

Just really great asset management.

They could have a Glass. Suzuki. Veleno. Center group for years to come.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
Just really great asset management.

They could have a Glass. Suzuki. Veleno. Center group for years to come.

- Feds91Stammer


Not to mention re-signing Tatar probably still costs less than Patch.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
Ek reporting this and just remember that I said this a few weeks. This is a Rutherford move if there ever was one.

Byfuglien and Montreal?
Told by a source that the Canadiens have been working Dustin Byfuglien to see if he could return for some time now. They aren't the only team (as reported by Andy Strickland) but of the teams I've spoken to, Montreal feels they may be closer than anyone else to getting it done. Sabres, Panthers, and Penguins are also possibilities....I will be adding Byfuglien to the rumor chart when I do my full update this afternoon...(It just feels empty without him on the chart....)
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
They thought Tatar wasn’t any good because he had to play with sorry ass Cody Eakin.
- Feds91Stammer



Tatar was the worst player in the PIT-MON series. Yes, even worse than JJ.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 24 @ 4:29 PM ET
Tatar was the worst player in the PIT-MON series. Yes, even worse than JJ.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I honestly don't remember him in the series, but even good players stink it up sometimes.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
Tatar was the worst player in the PIT-MON series. Yes, even worse than JJ.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Uhh Tatar definitely didn’t find the scoresheet as much as he needs to but for the “playoffs” he had a 57% cf and a 55% xgf
jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Sep 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
found out why the trade was held up.....GMJR was pleading for Florida to throw in another horrible player
Hodgedog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 04.07.2019

Sep 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
found out why the trade was held up.....GMJR was pleading for Florida to throw in another horrible player
- jmy_1


Sadly I wouldn't put that pass JR if that were the case. Just found out now that this trade is legit.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
found out why the trade was held up.....GMJR was pleading for Florida to throw in another horrible player
- jmy_1


Haha

Trades a done deal now. Some 10 goal in 69 game guy was thrown in

Colton Scevior(?). A center who makes 1.2 million for another year. Easy to bury if need be
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 24 @ 5:00 PM ET
trade is official!

Colton Sceviour hype train
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
jesus christ
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Sep 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
trade is official!

Colton Sceviour hype train

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Wow... 6 years of Matheson? What have you done
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Sep 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
So... if this SOMEHOW leads to Jack Johnson being dealt... are we okay with this trade as a 'domino effect'?

Cause... its super bleh as it is right now.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
So... if this SOMEHOW leads to Jack Johnson being dealt... are we okay with this trade as a 'domino effect'?

Cause... its super bleh as it is right now.

- Guile



Letang for Nylander

Johnson-Matheson 1st pair.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Sep 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
Johnson-Matheson 1st pair
- BINGO!



I hope reading that hurts you more than it does me
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