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Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Sep 25 @ 4:42 PM ET
I try to ignore him. Two more years.
- VANTEL



He makes it easy to ignore by not being noticeable on the ice or in the media... which is nice of him
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 25 @ 4:44 PM ET
Sens now 22 Mil below the floor of the Cap. 43 Mil in Cap space . Expect some big moves by them . They will probably be getting a lot of high draft picks or solid prospects.
- VANTEL


they mightve created too much cap space to be predatory for bad contracts lol. it would be very funny to me if teams started playing hardball with them because they need to find $20m+ in cap dollars without spending that in cash
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:45 PM ET
He makes it easy to ignore by not being noticeable on the ice or in the media... which is nice of him
- Mungo

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
they mightve created too much cap space to be predatory for bad contracts lol. it would be very funny to me if teams started playing hardball with them because they need to find $20m+ in cap dollars without spending that in cash
- johnnykarate


That is an excellent point. Everyone expects huge buyouts and things but if you stand pat teams like that are screwed.

I thought SJ would have a buyout or so they announced today they are standing pat.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 25 @ 4:53 PM ET
That is an excellent point. Everyone expects huge buyouts and things but if you stand pat teams like that are screwed.

I thought SJ would have a buyout or so they announced today they are standing pat.

- VANTEL

the only way they can eat cap space without spending cash is through trades. every rfa they have and bought out player requires spending the real money. if ericksons signing bonus has been paid he should be the top target for melnyk. $5m he wouldnt have to spend this year and he could buy out loui next year and save more
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 5:00 PM ET
the only way they can eat cap space without spending cash is through trades. every rfa they have and bought out player requires spending the real money. if ericksons signing bonus has been paid he should be the top target for melnyk. $5m he wouldnt have to spend this year and he could buy out loui next year and save more
- johnnykarate


If you look at Cap Friendly at first glance you see 14 mil 17 players signed . If you look closely then you notice Eriksson Sven and Rathbone are part of the 17 signed and they will probably come off that list and be replaced by Zack OJ and Motte. I am not talking trading Sven or Loui just sending them down.

I think Jake is done here and if by some chance they do sign Gauds it will be for a little more than a mil or he will be traded. He does not have Arb rights.

I think they will sign Toffoli at 5 mil and the rest will be figured out one way or another.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 5:03 PM ET
I still think the team has issues but they are slowly getting away from the old thinking. I did see more team toughness this year but still needs to be improved a lot more. When Tyler Motte is your hits leader then you need to rethink things.

I would have hated it here if I was Guddy . Expected to fight everyone's battles.

Same with team D and shots against, the forwards have got to help out a lot more. I think this year is a chance to change two bottom 6 players and that would be a good start . I would start by a new 3C and I would not mind Kyle Cifford for fourth line duties.

- VANTEL


If Guddy was good at hockey then people wouldn’t have been on his case for not fighting/hitting more. But if you’re not a good player then people at least want some hits/fights.

I’m glad the days of Sbisa/Guds are long gone lol. I’d rather acquire guys like Josh Anderson who can be effective as players and provide toughness.

I agree that a team mentality is what matters, I don’t think this team has a soft mentality though, they just lack the size to really push anyone around. All 3 series were physical and the Canucks never looked intimidated.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 5:05 PM ET
If Guddy was good at hockey then people wouldn’t have been on his case for not fighting/hitting more. But if you’re not a good player then people at least want some hits/fights.

I’m glad the days of Sbisa/Guds are long gone lol
. I’d rather acquire guys like Josh Anderson who can be effective as players and provide toughness.

- Nucker101


Seems like yesterday
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 25 @ 5:41 PM ET
If Guddy was good at hockey then people wouldn’t have been on his case for not fighting/hitting more. But if you’re not a good player then people at least want some hits/fights.

I’m glad the days of Sbisa/Guds/DelZotto/Hutton/Pouliot/Weber/Bartkowski/Larsen are long gone lol. I’d rather acquire guys like Josh Anderson who can be effective as players and provide toughness.

I agree that a team mentality is what matters, I don’t think this team has a soft mentality though, they just lack the size to really push anyone around. All 3 series were physical and the Canucks never looked intimidated.

- Nucker101

Fixed
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 25 @ 5:42 PM ET
If Guddy was good at hockey then people wouldn’t have been on his case for not fighting/hitting more. But if you’re not a good player then people at least want some hits/fights.

I’m glad the days of Sbisa/Guds are long gone lol. I’d rather acquire guys like Josh Anderson who can be effective as players and provide toughness.

I agree that a team mentality is what matters, I don’t think this team has a soft mentality though, they just lack the size to really push anyone around. All 3 series were physical and the Canucks never looked intimidated.

- Nucker101


Agree. Tryamkin is a good size cure regardless of the stupid labels he can play well enough. OJ is getting bigger too so he's an upgrade on Fatty.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Sep 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
Thank you muchly Carol.

Hopefully, this buy out will be a painkiller for the Canucks
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Sep 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
Agree. Tryamkin is a good size cure regardless of the stupid labels he can play well enough. OJ is getting bigger too so he's an upgrade on Fatty.
- NuckUp



Count me in as a Tryamkin fan. He plays well enough to play a bottom 6 role. I could see him making a difference in a playoff serious just by being physical enough to possibly take out a player or two (not on purpose) but just from his size.

The one benefit of the NHL season possibly starting in January is that Tryamkin and Podkolzin could potentially be available to sign mid-season as both of them could be done by Late February as that's when the regular season ends for the KHL. If their teams make the playoffs then they probably won't be available to sign until mid March.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
Maybe unpopular opinion but i'm not interested in buying out anyone this season.

I would trade Gaudette to get rid of Eriksson's contract for a reasonable price.

Package Roussel and Virtanen together for picks/prospects with cheap consistent 4th liners

I want the full 11.3M for next season from Baertschi, Sutter, Pearson to come off the books, to sign Petey.

Marky, Tanev, Toffoli should not come in over 5M unless it's for 2 years or less.

JB should be setting this team up for 2 years from now not this coming season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:16 PM ET
Maybe unpopular opinion but i'm not interested in buying out anyone this season.

I would trade Gaudette to get rid of Eriksson's contract for a reasonable price.

Package Roussel and Virtanen together for picks/prospects with cheap consistent 4th liners

I want the full 11.3M for next season from Baertschi, Sutter, Pearson to come off the books, to sign Petey.

Marky, Tanev, Toffoli should not come in over 5M unless it's for 2 years or less.

JB should be setting this team up for 2 years from now not this coming season.

- manvanfan


Well said. The only person I would want bought out is Loui if he decides to not go on permanent LTIR
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 6:17 PM ET
Well said. The only person I would want bought out is Loui if he decides to not go on permanent LTIR
- VANTEL


Louis? Or Ferland...?
No reason to buy out LE and no reason (unfortunately) for him to LTIR...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:19 PM ET
Louis? Or Ferland...?
No reason to buy out LE and no reason (unfortunately) for him to LTIR...

- SlightlyOffside


Oops good catch, brain fart . Yes Ferland
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
OJ or

Jake and Loui for the 33 rd .

I think it would be more of a Rafferty and Sven for a 7 th .


So many ways it could go. If I was Benning I would sell Loui for half price where it cost the team nothing this year and 1 mil next year.

- VANTEL


I think it costs more than that
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
I think it costs more than that
- belcherbd


Maybe
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
No one you probably know. Just a poster reminding everyone how excited this city was back when Loui was first signed. I even remember watching a preseason game when Loui scored playing with the Twins and the announcer said Well Vancouver get exited , get very excited , you will be seeing a lot of this.

- VANTEL

that's amazing. i love those "this has aged well" tweets

some amazing Trump ones.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
Carlo, or a young RHD with some size. A nasty disposition is okay as well.
- VanHockeyGuy

I have seen Carlo, Cerelli and Cernak on here today. My only question is: why would either team give up such a talented young guy?! Chara is probably retiring. Cirelli is probably the best defensive center noone knows about, kinda like Couturier 3-4 years ago and with the same upside. I get these teams need to make moves but why on earth would it be any of these guys!?

I was surprised to see Debrusk was mentioned in some rumor. I would love that move if it happened.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
Maybe unpopular opinion but i'm not interested in buying out anyone this season.

I would trade Gaudette to get rid of Eriksson's contract for a reasonable price.

Package Roussel and Virtanen together for picks/prospects with cheap consistent 4th liners

I want the full 11.3M for next season from Baertschi, Sutter, Pearson to come off the books, to sign Petey.

Marky, Tanev, Toffoli should not come in over 5M unless it's for 2 years or less.

JB should be setting this team up for 2 years from now not this coming season.

- manvanfan
When did you end your hiatus? welcome back
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Well said. The only person I would want bought out is Loui if he decides to not go on permanent LTIR
- VANTEL

Him and Baertschi can ride the bus in Utica if there is even a season, otherwise they terminate.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
When did you end your hiatus?
- neem55

Hasn't ended. I did come in one day about two weeks ago though. First time since Mid March. Maybe if JB gets some draft picks i'll come back otherwise. Whenever the next season starts to tell Marwood to go (frank) himself, after he comes up with another stupid prediction that isn't going to remotely come true.

I was hoping for a more productive day from the GM's to be honest. The news dwindled pretty quickly.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:48 PM ET
Him and Baertschi can ride the bus in Utica if there is even a season, otherwise they terminate.
- manvanfan


I had heard a few days ago same time of Bettmans state of the union asking what happens if no AHL next year.

I think someone mentioned extended rosters but I have no idea of how that would happen.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
Him and Baertschi can ride the bus in Utica if there is even a season, otherwise they terminate.
- manvanfan


Ferland is worth considering as a buyout candidate, if he won’t accept permanent LTIR.

LE and SB should be in Utica (assuming there is an AHL)....or on their way to play for the Senators.
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