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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
Ferland is worth considering as a buyout candidate, if he won’t accept permanent LTIR.

LE and SB should be in Utica (assuming there is an AHL)....or on their way to play for the Senators.

- SlightlyOffside

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:54 PM ET
I had heard a few days ago same time of Bettmans state of the union asking what happens if no AHL next year.

I think someone mentioned extended rosters but I have no idea of how that would happen.

- VANTEL

I think this would be a fantastic year to try out Toews schedule thought.

Limiting travel and without travel more back to back games can be done.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Ferland is worth considering as a buyout candidate, if he won’t accept permanent LTIR.

LE and SB should be in Utica (assuming there is an AHL)....or on their way to play for the Senators.

- SlightlyOffside

Is the guy is dumb enough to come and get his bell rung again. Take your money and sit at home Ferland.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
I think this would be a fantastic year to try out Toews schedule thought.

Limiting travel and without travel more back to back games can be done.

- manvanfan


Eklund mentioned double headers the other day
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Is the guy is dumb enough to come and get his bell rung again. Take your money and sit at home Ferland.
- manvanfan


I hope so
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
Eklund mentioned double headers the other day

- VANTEL

The players barely have enough energy for back to back games let alone playing two in a day. Christ, Only beer leagues tournaments and kids u14 play double headers.

SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
Is the guy is dumb enough to come and get his bell rung again. Take your money and sit at home Ferland.
- manvanfan


His agent has apparently represented him as “feeling well” and also that he is fit to play. Not sure that he has claimed that himself.

Is there any possibility that his contract was uninsured, or that it excluded concussions?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
His agent has apparently represented him as “feeling well” and also that he is fit to play. Not sure that he has claimed that himself.

Is there any possibility that his contract was uninsured, or that it excluded concussions?

- SlightlyOffside

I'm pretty sure it's not possible to not have an uninsured NHL contract. His agent has said 3 times that he's been feeling well and it's never lasted more than a couple games.

I really can't imagine why he would want to even try anymore.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 25 @ 7:44 PM ET
His agent has apparently represented him as “feeling well” and also that he is fit to play. Not sure that he has claimed that himself.

Is there any possibility that his contract was uninsured, or that it excluded concussions?

- SlightlyOffside

Several sources indicated that Ferland’s contract is not insured, but the Canucks declined to comment, citing privacy.

There is a league wide insurance provider, which covers a certain number of contracts per team. Generally the insurer says yes, unless the player has serious pre-existing conditions, which could mean the insurer will decline to cover only some or possibly none of the contract.

Insurance claims can only be made at the end of the season.

https://theprovince.com/s...land-returns-to-vancouver
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
Hasn't ended. I did come in one day about two weeks ago though. First time since Mid March. Maybe if JB gets some draft picks i'll come back otherwise. Whenever the next season starts to tell Marwood to go (frank) himself, after he comes up with another stupid prediction that isn't going to remotely come true.

I was hoping for a more productive day from the GM's to be honest. The news dwindled pretty quickly.

- manvanfan


If you’ve been on this board for more than six months wothout telling Driftwood to (frank) off, you must be a saint.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
Several sources indicated that Ferland’s contract is not insured, but the Canucks declined to comment, citing privacy.

There is a league wide insurance provider, which covers a certain number of contracts per team. Generally the insurer says yes, unless the player has serious pre-existing conditions, which could mean the insurer will decline to cover only some or possibly none of the contract.

Insurance claims can only be made at the end of the season.

https://theprovince.com/s...land-returns-to-vancouver

- RealityChecker


I think if Canucks declared him unfit to play can they shut him down? He got concused by the wind last time. That can't be a good sign.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:07 PM ET
I think if Canucks declared him unfit to play can they shut him down? He got concused by the wind last time. That can't be a good sign.
- VANTEL

Only a doctor can declare him unfit. I don't think there are any requirements for medicals in the off season. Also, we're dealing with concussions so it's up to him to declare the symptoms, if any, and their severity.

He'll wait until at least training camp to decide (unless something in the interim happens) I would imagine.

The Canucks can't force him to do anything. All they can do is buy him out (though I'm still unsure about buyouts concerning injured but not LTIR players), trade him or put him in the minors if he's adamant about playing if they don't want him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:12 PM ET
Only a doctor can declare him unfit. I don't think there are any requirements for medicals in the off season. Also, we're dealing with concussions so it's up to him to declare the symptoms, if any, and their severity.

He'll wait until at least training camp to decide (unless something in the interim happens) I would imagine.

The Canucks can't force him to do anything. All they can do is buy him out (though I'm still unsure about buyouts concerning injured but not LTIR players), trade him or put him in the minors if he's adamant about playing if they don't want him.

- RealityChecker

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:18 PM ET
I'm pretty sure it's not possible to not have an uninsured NHL contract. His agent has said 3 times that he's been feeling well and it's never lasted more than a couple games.

I really can't imagine why he would want to even try anymore.

- manvanfan


The dude has a family, it’s insane to me that he might try to play again. But hey, it’s his choice. I just don’t see him lasting a couple of games unless he changes his play style to Loui Eriksson’s
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:18 PM ET
RD
@BuckFoston_
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Sep 25
Imac says benning’s re-signing Motte (no surprise), thinks MacEwen will be here long term and Toffoli will be signed well

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Didn't listen to the interview but no big surprises
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:21 PM ET
RD
@BuckFoston_
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Sep 25
Imac says benning’s re-signing Motte (no surprise), thinks MacEwen will be here long term and Toffoli will be signed well

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Didn't listen to the interview but no big surprises

- VANTEL


Sounds about right. ZMac is who I’d rather have over a slow, less physical, more expensive bottom 6’er. I’ll take guys like him and Motte. I just hope the Motte contract isn’t something stupid, he should be relatively cheap.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:23 PM ET
Sounds about right. ZMac is who I’d rather have over a slow, less physical, more expensive bottom 6’er. I’ll take guys like him and Motte. I just hope the Motte contract isn’t something stupid, he should be relatively cheap.
- Nucker101


I am thinking 1.5

TBT I am not surprise they did not mention Marky Tanev Jake Stech or Jake. Not surprised one but.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 9:04 PM ET
Several sources indicated that Ferland’s contract is not insured, but the Canucks declined to comment, citing privacy.

There is a league wide insurance provider, which covers a certain number of contracts per team. Generally the insurer says yes, unless the player has serious pre-existing conditions, which could mean the insurer will decline to cover only some or possibly none of the contract.

Insurance claims can only be made at the end of the season.

https://theprovince.com/s...land-returns-to-vancouver

- RealityChecker


Thanks! Appreciate the info & link


I really wish the guy well and hope he chooses a healthy life over trying to continue in the NHL.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
Not according to the team
- NorthNuck


According to me hooray. Only thing im upset about is we didnt move him last year when he had peak value. He scored less and got hurt again but what do I know Im just an ahole on hockeybuzz. Have a good night boys
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 25 @ 10:11 PM ET
Thanks! Appreciate the info & link


I really wish the guy well and hope he chooses a healthy life over trying to continue in the NHL.

- SlightlyOffside



The only reports he gave the media about his symptoms is its like being drunk. That effect is at doing things at high speed. He never said his normal daily life was effected. You know the darkrooms with splitting headache issues were never reported. So maybe he thinks he needs more time with the inner ear rewiring. Or he doesn't want to get bought out to lose money since it seems the Canucks would have to pay him with no coverage. Not sure where this goes but this is the most intriguing cap resolve the Canucks have to clear.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 25 @ 10:13 PM ET
According to me hooray. Only thing im upset about is we didnt move him last year when he had peak value. He scored less and got hurt again but what do I know Im just an ahole on hockeybuzz. Have a good night boys
- Jkuzzi


Guess what BB is not being moved and his value is increasing more with his well rounded game improvement and other new tools instead of being a one trick pony.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
Maybe unpopular opinion but i'm not interested in buying out anyone this season.

I would trade Gaudette to get rid of Eriksson's contract for a reasonable price.

Package Roussel and Virtanen together for picks/prospects with cheap consistent 4th liners

I want the full 11.3M for next season from Baertschi, Sutter, Pearson to come off the books, to sign Petey.

Marky, Tanev, Toffoli should not come in over 5M unless it's for 2 years or less.

JB should be setting this team up for 2 years from now not this coming season.

- manvanfan


This is an interesting idea. I ws just reading Rob the Hockey Guys 6 rookies that could make the team. OJ Lind Zack Rathbone Hog and Pod. Would fans be willing to accept the results.

I like the idea of trading Jake for a draft pick or a decent prospect. Would you be willing to go the year with Zack on fourth line full time or Brogan Rafferty as a number 6 ?
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:04 PM ET
Guess what BB is not being moved and his value is increasing more with his well rounded game improvement and other new tools instead of being a one trick pony.
- NuckUp


Like the postive attitude but if he had 35 tucks trust me hed be worth more but thanks for the opinion
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:08 PM ET
Anything exciting happen today?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:11 PM ET
Anything exciting happen today?
- Pacificgem



nice avi
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