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Pacificgem
Location: LeoCarlsson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
As per Pierre LeBrun, only Bobby Ryan today. Window just opened and carries through October 8th.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:10 PM ET
have any local beat guys like rick d said anything? or just national guys suspecting the canucks wont make it work?
- johnnykarate


Local guys say mostly it is not close. Not really a lot of solid talk just speculation.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:11 PM ET
Ouch that hurt . Did you think of that name all day and night. Internet gangs ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh
- VANTEL

take it easy, i'm only kidding around. i wouldn't want you to go full vantel again, though i have to admit that it's lots of fun.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:12 PM ET
take it easy, i'm only kidding around. i wouldn't want you to go full vantel again, though i have to admit that it's lots of fun.
- RealityChecker


I enjoy it too .
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Sep 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
Rumors CBJ’s might buyout Wennberg.
- Pacificgem


Cus he's terrible

4 years ago he put up 59 points but its been a steep, steady decline since and he's only 26 years. He scored 2 goals in 75 games last year!! That's Loui Eriksson bad. AND he's been making 4.9MIL - prime candidate to go home. Share a seat with Loui.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
As per Pierre LeBrun, only Bobby Ryan today. Window just opened and carries through October 8th.
- Pacificgem


How broke are the Sens ?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:18 PM ET
Holtby sucks, a lot of other goalies I would target before signing any of the UFA's.

Elvis, Raanta or Allen would be the ideal targets with 1 year ~4M left. I wonder if JV could fetch one?

I would also look at Reimer, Hutton, Halak although that would really depend on whether they think Demko is ready.

If you are going to sign a UFA, likely needing term, you might as well give Markstrom what he wants. Usually I would be against trading for a goalie when you can sign one but the cap being what it is, the team needs short term contracts and some breathing room to asses Demko more than anything.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
I Think Jake will be moved before the draft unless Canucks can not sign Toffoli
- VANTEL


As an RFA or with a contract in place?

My thought is that there would be more trade value & opportunity if JB and Jake could come to terms on a reasonable (relative to arbitration) contract.

Either way, I have the same view as you which is he is being moved out and likely before the draft.
Pacificgem
Location: LeoCarlsson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
How broke are the Sens ?
- VANTEL

Melnyk is notoriously cheap and his once billion dollar fortune is now only worth 200 million, when times are tough, as they are now, him saving 3.7 million is a huge deal.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:26 PM ET
you beta little b!tch. i fcuking quit. you are such a big meanie.

i quit. i'm never coming back here. you are so mean and i will find new friends.

new friends who are so much better than you!!!!!

- RealityChecker

lol look at this little b!tch
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:26 PM ET
well, i'm back.

did i miss anything?

- RealityChecker

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:27 PM ET
As an RFA or with a contract in place?

My thought is that there would be more trade value & opportunity if JB and Jake could come to terms on a reasonable (relative to arbitration) contract.

Either way, I have the same view as you which is he is being moved out and likely before the draft.

- SlightlyOffside


Entering dangerous waters by making an offer. I would hope there would be a trade like Debrusk for Jake and expect to pay JD three mil a year for 2-3 years.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:28 PM ET
Rumors CBJ’s might buyout Wennberg.
- Pacificgem

Remember when he was on par with Bo?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:29 PM ET
Melnyk is notoriously cheap and his once billion dollar fortune is now only worth 200 million, when times are tough, as they are now, him saving 3.7 million is a huge deal.
- Pacificgem


Next it will be no hot water for the showers and riding the bus
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:30 PM ET
As per Pierre LeBrun, only Bobby Ryan today. Window just opened and carries through October 8th.
- Pacificgem


Eriksson trade saves them more money and Canucks could of bought him out. I hope Aquaman is willing to flex his wealth for these scenarios.

Ott gets Eriksson for 4M salary over 2 years. Canucks can save 4.2M I cap for next 2 years then 2 more years of 1.8 cap hit.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:33 PM ET
Well I apologize to the posters who feelings are so fragile that when I said "You do know he is from Canucks Army" they felt offended.

Next there is a difference between me retweeting Chris Faber this reporting that Podkolzen scored a goal at 2.10 of the second period and Chris Faber asking me for money to listen to him talk about why Sutter absolutely needs to be bought out.

I did quit about a month and a half ago around the same time Codes did for the same reason . I have seen this issue brought up now with me three times and never once did it say" You and Codes quit why are you both back" ? Also it is nice that you care so much about what I do .

My comment about meeting with my gang was pure MOCKERY f of some of the events that go on in here. It astonishes me that grown men have to run off to another thread to complain. I have never been to that thread but I have seen some comments from other posters in here sending me DMs .

If you need to run away and cry like a little school girl at this age , I don't know what to tell you. I know if I have an issue with some one I will take it on one on I don't need to have backing. This is not aimed at you.

I also see in here it is quiet at periods of time and then within minutes there are multiple posters in here attacking a guy like Nuck Up. Quiet all day and boom out of nowhere three people jumping down his throat. That was my mockery of the statement I am meeting with my gang.


- VANTEL


im sort of only back when things aren't a complete sh*t show in the main threads, which is more often than not in the last little while. I imagine people start to get along more when the Canucks either make some trades, signings, buyouts, etc.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:38 PM ET
im sort of only back when things aren't a complete sh*t show in the main threads, which is more often than not in the last little while. I imagine people start to get along more when the Canucks either make some trades, signings, buyouts, etc.
- Codes1087


I am sorry for mentioning your name as you know I do like you.


My point to rueben was there were two people that quit the same week for the same reasons and only one gets mentioned.

I respect your decision to leave and I respect your decision to come back and you can trust me I will never need an explanation from you of why you chose to do either.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
Eriksson trade saves them more money and Canucks could of bought him out. I hope Aquaman is willing to flex his wealth for these scenarios.

Ott gets Eriksson for 4M salary over 2 years. Canucks can save 4.2M I cap for next 2 years then 2 more years of 1.8 cap hit.

- belcherbd



It needs a sweetner.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:43 PM ET
I am sorry for mentioning your name as you know I do like you.


My point to rueben was there were two people that quit the same week for the same reasons and only one gets mentioned.

I respect your decision to leave and I respect your decision to come back and you can trust me I will never need an explanation from you of why you chose to do either.

- VANTEL


haha no worries man. I don't think people really care or realize if I am here or not, which is how i sort of like it lol. Wife and I just sold our house and bought another so its been a bit hectic so don't really have much time for HB. I am just eager to hear/see some signings/trades.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
haha no worries man. I don't think people really care or realize if I am here or not, which is how i sort of like it lol. Wife and I just sold our house and bought another so its been a bit hectic so don't really have much time for HB. I am just eager to hear/see some signings/trades.
- Codes1087


Keep moving forward and congrats . Trust me we always know when you are here or not. Solid poster.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:52 PM ET

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
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8m
First buyout window is today.

For those asking, no word about the the #Canucks buying out a player, team internal discussions about the subject are taking place today.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:55 PM ET
Entering dangerous waters by making an offer. I would hope there would be a trade like Debrusk for Jake and expect to pay JD three mil a year for 2-3 years.
- VANTEL


interesting, you are hopeful to get Debrusk for less than Boston sportswriters expect it would take.

Their commentary (FWIW, you don’t need to agree with it) seems to be:
* Jake D is a legit 2 LW
* The average second line left wing in the NHL makes roughly $3.8 million dollars per season
* comparisons include Tuch, Vrana, Mantha and Toffoli (who do / will make more $)
* their projection is he might get $4-$5M / year dependent upon term

...this is from this week, not pre-pandemic
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
interesting, you are hopeful to get Debrusk for less than Boston sportswriters expect it would take.

Their commentary (FWIW, you don’t need to agree with it) seems to be:
* Jake D is a legit 2 LW
* The average second line left wing in the NHL makes roughly $3.8 million dollars per season
* comparisons include Tuch, Vrana, Mantha and Toffoli (who do / will make more $)
* their projection is he might get $4-$5M / year dependent upon term

...this is from this week, not pre-pandemic

- SlightlyOffside


He still has one year left, ya? Or is he an RFA too?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
interesting, you are hopeful to get Debrusk for less than Boston sportswriters expect it would take.

Their commentary (FWIW, you don’t need to agree with it) seems to be:
* Jake D is a legit 2 LW
* The average second line left wing in the NHL makes roughly $3.8 million dollars per season
* comparisons include Tuch, Vrana, Mantha and Toffoli (who do / will make more $)
* their projection is he might get $4-$5M / year dependent upon term

...this is from this week, not pre-pandemic

- SlightlyOffside


3.8 is fair. I would agree Jake is a second liner.

Until some contracts are signed we won't know what players will be getting. I just seen a tweet from Dreger that Islanders are probably going to offer Barzal a short term deal. This is a year like no other.

I heard discussion yesterday of a lot of RFAs won't receive qualifying offers . We can see it even with Canucks.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
interesting, you are hopeful to get Debrusk for less than Boston sportswriters expect it would take.

Their commentary (FWIW, you don’t need to agree with it) seems to be:
* Jake D is a legit 2 LW
* The average second line left wing in the NHL makes roughly $3.8 million dollars per season
* comparisons include Tuch, Vrana, Mantha and Toffoli (who do / will make more $)
* their projection is he might get $4-$5M / year dependent upon term

...this is from this week, not pre-pandemic

- SlightlyOffside


I'd rather have Brandon Carlo.
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