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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
possibly...he was a rookie in 17-18 and the sabres finished last in the league by five points...would he have made that much of a difference?...maybe, but there were names like svechnikov, tkachuk, and hughes that followed dahlin
- Michael Pachla


This true. Just talking for talkings sake. Every year there’s guys that can be taken to turn the tide of a franchise. Cozens hopefully is that guy for us
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
I have heard Perfetti, Rossi, Drysdale....and all that assuming the top 3 go as expected, which is about a 50/50 proposition. And then there is GM Stevie Y, who did the unexpected last year. We really won't know until it happens. Everything we have heard so far may be a smoke screen. I read somewhere that, if the Wing's didn't take Seider last year, the Sabres would have. Have any of you Sabres fans heard the same thing ?
- Iago


The bold above is total baloney.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
So all you draft gurus, I know everyone has their preferred draft picks for this year, but is there a WORST-CASE scenario that any of you could see playing out for Buffalo?

Or are we guaranteed a great player?

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
So all you draft gurus, I know everyone has their preferred draft picks for this year, but is there a WORST-CASE scenario that any of you could see playing out for Buffalo?

Or are we guaranteed a great player?

- Powerslave


I think as long as one defenseman or Askarov go in front of us AND we actually take one of the forwards, we’ll be happy. I’m no expert though.

Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz.

Edit: Lundell as the WC, but rather the top 7 ( knowing the first four will not fall)
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
I think as long as one defenseman or Askarov go in front of us AND we actually take one of the forwards, we’ll be happy. I’m no expert though.

Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti, Holtz.

Edit: Lundell as the WC, but rather the top 7 ( knowing the first four will not fall)

- SDSabre


I feel like people are severely understating Lundell with how good he already is and how good he will be.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 26 @ 11:59 AM ET
I feel like people are severely understating Lundell with how good he already is and how good he will be.
- kingcong39


Perhaps. If he’s our choice I wouldn’t be upset, watching some of his highlights and reading about him. The other 3 (Rossi, Holtz, and Perfetti) also are really good and if they all hit their ceilings, I just think those 3 are a tad higher. Developing whoever we take will be key to our success, as always
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Sep 26 @ 12:20 PM ET
I have heard Perfetti, Rossi, Drysdale....and all that assuming the top 3 go as expected, which is about a 50/50 proposition. And then there is GM Stevie Y, who did the unexpected last year. We really won't know until it happens. Everything we have heard so far may be a smoke screen. I read somewhere that, if the Wing's didn't take Seider last year, the Sabres would have. Have any of you Sabres fans heard the same thing ?
- Iago


Never heard that at all. What i did hear was that if Detroit didn't take him, Holland in Edmonton (2 picks later) would have. This does make sense since Yzerman still had all of Hollands scouting staff so Holland knew everything they thought about that draft. Holland even ended up bringing a lot of them to Edmonton after Yzerman got rid of a lot of them later on.

I do remember rumors that Buffalo wanted Riley Sheahan that the Wings picked 2 picks before Buffalo in 2010. They really didn't miss anything there.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:22 PM ET
8. Buffalo Sabres--D, Mikhail Sergachev. Buffalo was ready to select Jacob Chychrun until sources revealed he hurt his shoulder giving Terry Pegula a high-five at a family cookout in Florida. You could feel the weight of the moment as Chychrun's double cheeseburger went flying into Kim Pegula's Strawberry Daquiri. The incident threw everyone off guard causing Murray's brain to cramp and he ends up doing the unthinkable by drafting the Russian defenseman who inexplicably dropped to them. There's no truth to the rumor that former head scout Kevin Devine had Murray in a headlock until the blue faced GM capitulated by shouting out Sergachev's name instead of "uncle" at the same gathering.
- Michael Pachla

solid
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:29 PM ET
I would like a logical explanation as to why it’s ok for Skinner to not score one PPG in his last 80 games even when he was on PP1, however when the name Monahan pops up you are as giddy as a school girl to move 8th OA for a player who derives most of his value on the PP that you seem to devalue on these threads on a daily basis.

Like Jesus Christopher the guy was a -16 on a Flames team that made the playoffs and has had no even strength production at all in the last 10 playoff games he’s played in the past few years. The analytics show he’s brutal defensively too so it’s not like it’s Gaudreau or Lindholm causing that mess.

Then when GMKA makes a trade to move Mojo out for Staal we essentially find a stop gap 2C whom analytically shows a player who can also produce at even strength and isn’t an albatross defensively (however he did receive a lot of o-zone starts) yet it was met with skepticism on your end and you were obviously upset that we didn’t make the big “fancy” move for the sake of making one. Even the people who don’t care about analytics can see that Staal can be a 2C and bring other intangibles like veteran experience and size to our top 6 that we were lacking last year.

So it would ok for Monahan to be a passenger at even strength and kill us defensively as long as he makes our PP a top 10 possibly top 5 Unit in the NHL and it’s ok for Skinner/Reinhart/Okposo to give us replacement value on special teams for what is soon to be 30% of our Salary Cap if not more.

Pick a lane, or admit that special teams plays a major role in small sample sizes like the NHL playoffs or even as small as a single playoff series.

- Pegullaville

Dude these are flat out exaggerations.

I don’t want to move 8th. I’ve said that 100 times. I’d rather pick.

I also think you’re being incredibly disingenuous about Monahan

EV goal totals over the past 4 years

18,22,22,14

He basically averages 20 EV goals per season.

Pretending he’s just a PP producer is wrong
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
So all you draft gurus, I know everyone has their preferred draft picks for this year, but is there a WORST-CASE scenario that any of you could see playing out for Buffalo?

Or are we guaranteed a great player?

- Powerslave


Anton Lundell, Alex Holtz, Seth Jarvis

And all three I’d happily add to the organization.



yelraf10
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:33 PM ET
Um... Montreal was the 12 seed, not New York
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
Anton Lundell, Alex Holtz, Seth Jarvis

And all three I’d happily add to the organization.

- Pegullaville


Holtz, Lundell, Jarvis in that order for me. Although Lundell gets a boost for being a center
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:35 PM ET
8. Buffalo Sabres--D, Mikhail Sergachev. Buffalo was ready to select Jacob Chychrun until sources revealed he hurt his shoulder giving Terry Pegula a high-five at a family cookout in Florida. You could feel the weight of the moment as Chychrun's double cheeseburger went flying into Kim Pegula's Strawberry Daquiri. The incident threw everyone off guard causing Murray's brain to cramp and he ends up doing the unthinkable by drafting the Russian defenseman who inexplicably dropped to them. There's no truth to the rumor that former head scout Kevin Devine had Murray in a headlock until the blue faced GM capitulated by shouting out Sergachev's name instead of "uncle" at the same gathering.
- Michael Pachla


We got Joker we can move on
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:36 PM ET
So all you draft gurus, I know everyone has their preferred draft picks for this year, but is there a WORST-CASE scenario that any of you could see playing out for Buffalo?

Or are we guaranteed a great player?

- Powerslave


There's zero chance they Screw it up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
There's zero chance they Screw it up
- GERBE!!!75PTS

it's the sabres with a rookie gm and turmoil in the scouting department


nothing is a given with this franchise
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 12:42 PM ET
it's the sabres with a rookie gm and turmoil in the scouting department


nothing is a given with this franchise

- homiedclown


That just got staal for free I've gained more hope then ever
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
Dude these are flat out exaggerations.

I don’t want to move 8th. I’ve said that 100 times. I’d rather pick.

I also think you’re being incredibly disingenuous about Monahan

EV goal totals over the past 4 years

18,22,22,14

He basically averages 20 EV goals per season.

Pretending he’s just a PP producer is wrong

- sbroads24


You said multiple times you’d move 8 for Monahan if need be.

Scoring 14 even strength goals this past season is quite productive however if you are giving up 30 goals at even strength what’s the net impact of that ? His defensive impacts greatly reduce the value he brings offensively.

It would be nearly impossible for the Sabres to win on any kind of deal that brings Monahan in unless he’s sold for pennies on the dollar and Calgary wouldn’t do that.

We need to use our assets as best as possible to bring in two additional top 9 forwards, a goaltender, and another LHD.

We need improvement in our special teams, period.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Sep 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
simply drafting sergachev instead of bustlander would have been huge for this franchise
- Michael Pachla



So true.
But At least we didn’t trade him for Drouin.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
You said multiple times you’d move 8 for Monahan if need be.

Scoring 14 even strength goals this past season is quite productive however if you are giving up 30 goals at even strength what’s the net impact of that ? His defensive impacts greatly reduce the value he brings offensively.

It would be nearly impossible for the Sabres to win on any kind of deal that brings Monahan in unless he’s sold for pennies on the dollar and Calgary wouldn’t do that.

We need to use our assets as best as possible to bring in two additional top 9 forwards, a goaltender, and another LHD.

We need improvement in our special teams, period.

- Pegullaville

Monahan has a bad year this year.

His three previous seasons.

51% of the expected goal share
54% of the scoring chances share
51% of the overall shot share
And great on PP

Pretending he’s bad after a down year is just ridiculous
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
So all you draft gurus, I know everyone has their preferred draft picks for this year, but is there a WORST-CASE scenario that any of you could see playing out for Buffalo?

Or are we guaranteed a great player?

- Powerslave


I dont know poop about the draft, but my worst case scenario is any scenario where they draft a defenseman
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
Monahan has a bad year this year.

His three previous seasons.

51% of the expected goal share
54% of the scoring chances share
51% of the overall shot share
And great on PP

Pretending he’s bad after a down year is just ridiculous

- sbroads24


Not once did I say he is bad.

For the price to acquire him though the value is not there.

The only reason we are having this discussion right now is because you have defended Skinner’s lack of special teams contributions, yet advocate for a player like Monahan whom has a majority value his value stem from special teams.

I just think it’s ironic.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Not once did I say he is bad.

For the price to acquire him though the value is not there.

The only reason we are having this discussion right now is because you have defended Skinner’s lack of special teams contributions, yet advocate for a player like Monahan whom has a majority value his value stem from special teams.

I just think it’s ironic.

- Pegullaville

This is not the case. He produces plenty at EV strength

18th among centers in 5 on 5 goals from 17/18-19/20
34th among centers in primary assists
27th among centers in overall points

He’s incredibly productive offensively, everywhere
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 26 @ 1:01 PM ET
Not once did I say he is bad.

For the price to acquire him though the value is not there.

The only reason we are having this discussion right now is because you have defended Skinner’s lack of special teams contributions, yet advocate for a player like Monahan whom has a majority value his value stem from special teams.

I just think it’s ironic.

- Pegullaville

I'd do pick 8 for Monahan and pick 19
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
I dont know poop about the draft, but my worst case scenario is any scenario where they draft a defenseman
- jcragcrumple


Whars wrong with drafting Drysdale he will be a Bonafide superstar
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
I'd do pick 8 for Monahan and pick 19
- homiedclown


I wouldn't .. 😒
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