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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:46 PM ET
Yeah, bob McKenzie reported that teams called, were told pay the (frank) up or hell naw, then finished it with he’s not going anywhere. So naturally we’re all teasing him
- SDSabre


Gotcha

Only reasonable Eichel trades I’ve seen on CapFriendly were:

Lafreniere +++
and
Tkachuk + Ottawa’s 3 first rounders this year

Other than that...
A LOT of garbage, especially from Bruins fans
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:46 PM ET
Harder to score when the coach wants the D to stay back.
Watch where Hedman scores from tonight...should be at the top of the slot.

- IonSabres


Hedmans 12th goal in 25 games

DEFENSEman aren't supposed to score goals

I really like this Tampa team. Kuch , palat, point.

Likeable line
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
Offense didn’t get many 1st downs between those TD drives
Allen looked confused by what the Rams were doing on defense for the majority of the half

- jdfitz77

Mahomes has had bad halves of football.

We don’t say he played 13 1/2 good games last season.

Allen has had great numbers in three games = 3 great games
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
So what? Doesn’t matter
Defensemen aren’t goal scorers
Again... sorry YOU can’t get over that
But it’s the way it is
Especially on poor offensive teams like us who focus heavily on playing defensively

- jdfitz77



Nobody cares
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
No one cares
- Boss34


YOUR expectations DO NOT dictate how Dahlin will play
Either you can accept that or not
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:48 PM ET
Mahomes has had bad halves of football.

We don’t say he played 13 1/2 good games last season.

Allen has had great numbers in three games = 3 great games

- sbroads24


He’s also MUCH MUCH MUCH more PROVEN than Allen is

Bad comparison
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 28 @ 7:49 PM ET
Cobra Kai is awesome.

Back to hockey talk...
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 28 @ 7:49 PM ET
All valid points power.

Those other defenseman are a big reason, their teams made huge playoff pushes.

MacKinnon-makar
Peterson- hughes
Seguin- heiskinin

We have the eichel - dahlin

The rest of our team isnt comparable

- Boss34


Now you got it, took awhile for you to talk yourself into it, but in the end you did.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:49 PM ET
YOUR expectations DO NOT dictate how Dahlin will play
Either you can accept that or not

- jdfitz77


No one cares futz
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 7:50 PM ET
Nobody cares
- Boss34


Don’t be a baby about it
Jfc
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 28 @ 7:52 PM ET
Heres a list of defenseman with 4 goals last season

Brendan guhle
Boquist
Caleb jones
Haydn flurry
Philippe myers
Will butcher
Travis demott
Tucker polman
Brett pesce.

Tied with dahlin for 89th for goals by defenseman

Nice list huh?

- Boss34


Dahlin finished 14th in the entire league in points per game by a d-man, he was 19.

I wouldn’t even compare him with Makar as Cale is 3 years older.

Hughes played on a higher scoring Canucks team.

Heiskanen played on a low scoring Stars team and had less points in the regular season, however he has been absolutely incredible these playoffs no doubt.

Heiskanen to me is a level above the rest today but Dahlin did more at 19 then any of the aforementioned.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:53 PM ET
Now you got it, took awhile for you to talk yourself into it, but in the end you did.
- IonSabres



Were talking top 8 nhl teams.

Of course we do not compare.

We actually only compare to the aforementioned teams. Because we have a great center and a young defenseman.

Dahlin stretched in looks great on paper, but makar. Hughes. Hiskanin, are doing it in the ice.

Dahlin will remain a favorite of mine. Love the upside, but I think most non Sabres fans would rather have any of those 3 guys? Maybe?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Don’t be a baby about it
Jfc

- jdfitz77



Whatever futz . "No one cares" extremely rude and childish.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 28 @ 7:58 PM ET
Gotcha

Only reasonable Eichel trades I’ve seen on CapFriendly were:

Lafreniere +++
and
Tkachuk + Ottawa’s 3 first rounders this year

Other than that...
A LOT of garbage, especially from Bruins fans

- jdfitz77


Laf, Mika, fox

Or

Nico, Ty Smith, Nolan Foote, 7, 2nd from NJ
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 28 @ 7:59 PM ET
Dahlin accomplished a heck of a lot more in his first 2 seasons then Allen did.

Allen has made several improvements in year 3.

Dahlin will too.

Dahlin broke several records for a teenage d-man.

Allen ranked 32/32 out of QB’s in every accuracy statistic and failed to put a Houston Texans team away while Bill O’Brian coached quite possibly the worst possible game I’ve ever seen and still managed to win.

Allen had as much to do with the success of that Bills team last year as Blake Bortles did when the Jags went to the AFC championship game in 2017.

Yet Dahlin stinks because we couldn’t make the playoffs ?

You’re logic is fundamentally flawed.

I’m not going to dispute what I have seen from
Allen these first three weeks as he has been playing very well, the only similarity between Josh this year and years past is still has the same name. Completely different QB.

- Pegullaville



Actually 34 said he knew Allen was the guy within an hour of watching him.

So within that first hour.

Allen sucked at making progressions - which nfl QBs Need to do

He also struggled with accuracy and deep ball.


But some how he magically knew that 3 years later. He would figure that out.


So Allen > dahlin according to 34 being a dumb troll
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:01 PM ET
Whatever futz . "No one cares" extremely rude and childish.
- Boss34


You’re a cry baby who needs pro athletes to meet the standards that YOU set
It’s pretty ridiculous
Grow up
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:02 PM ET
Laf, Mika, fox

Or

Nico, Ty Smith, Nolan Foote, 7, 2nd from NJ

- SDSabre


Yeah, it would obviously take a lot

We should include Dahlin in any trade though
He sucks bc he can’t score more than 4goals
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 28 @ 8:03 PM ET
Heres a list of defenseman with 4 goals last season

Brendan guhle
Boquist
Caleb jones
Haydn flurry
Philippe myers
Will butcher
Travis demott
Tucker polman
Brett pesce.

Tied with dahlin for 89th for goals by defenseman

Nice list huh?

- Boss34


Dahlin came in 2nd all time for point totals for a teenage defensemen...beating Bobby freaking orr in points for a teenager.


Fellow Swede like Erik karolsson and victor hedman even said dahlin is high years ahead of both of them at the same age.

NHL defensemen normally don’t come into the league at 18. Normally it’s 21-23 when they settle into the nhl

Stop spreading fake news and trolling people.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 8:03 PM ET
You’re a cry baby who needs pro athletes to meet the standards that YOU set
It’s pretty ridiculous
Grow up

- jdfitz77



Look in the mirror futz
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 28 @ 8:03 PM ET
He’s also MUCH MUCH MUCH more PROVEN than Allen is

Bad comparison

- jdfitz77

Im not comparing them. I’m pointing how silly it is to break games into halves or quarters.

Did Allen have 0 good quarters last season? Did he play 4.25 good games?

Allen has had 3 great games. Not 2 1/2 or 2 1/4. 3
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 28 @ 8:04 PM ET
Well I hope the Bill's can get that run defense squared away, make it tough if they don't.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 28 @ 8:04 PM ET
Actually 34 said he knew Allen was the guy within an hour of watching him.

So within that first hour.

Allen sucked at making progressions - which nfl QBs Need to do

He also struggled with accuracy and deep ball.


But some how he magically knew that 3 years later. He would figure that out.


So Allen > dahlin according to 34 being a dumb troll

- Sabretooth9


Whatever he did this offseason has worked so far.

Pretty unorthodox development curve.

Buffalo sports fans were due for some luck though.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 28 @ 8:05 PM ET
Im not comparing them. I’m pointing how silly it is to break games into halves or quarters.

Did Allen have 0 good quarters last season? Did he play 4.25 good games?

Allen has had 3 great games. Not 2 1/2 or 2 1/4. 3

- sbroads24


A bad half is significant in a small 3 game sample size
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 28 @ 8:05 PM ET
Dahlin came in 2nd all time for point totals for a teenage defensemen...beating Bobby freaking orr in points for a teenager.


Fellow Swede like Erik karolsson and victor hedman even said dahlin is high years ahead of both of them at the same age.

NHL defensemen normally don’t come into the league at 18. Normally it’s 21-23 when they settle into the nhl

Stop spreading fake news and trolling people.

- Sabretooth9



He had 4 (frank)ing goals tooph

What's fake about that?

Your ability to be a Bill's fan (if you are) and criticize allen for 2 plus years makes you a troll.

Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 28 @ 8:05 PM ET
Whatever he did this offseason has worked so far.

Pretty unorthodox development curve.

Buffalo sports fans were due for some luck though.

- Pegullaville


Yes, I 100% agree. He learned how to play QB and looks like an nfl qb.

He wasn’t like this the last couple years.
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