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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:16 PM ET
And managed to get a heck of a return.

Point proven ?

- Pegullaville

Difference will be, if Eichel ever does demand a trade, the Sabres will be dealing from a position of weakness.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:17 PM ET
When teams trade the top player in a deal they most often lose the deal.

Who was the last franchise player/center that was dealt in his early prime? Hall is not on Eichel's level or a center.

- GilPerreault11


Nordiques/Avs won a Cup because they traded Lindros. That's about the only time trading a franchise player has worked. The Oilers won another Cup, but that was just momentum, and they had another franchise player.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 30 @ 11:19 PM ET
Nordiques/Avs won a Cup because they traded Lindros. That's about the only time trading a franchise player has worked. The Oilers won another Cup, but that was just momentum, and they had another franchise player.
- Wetbandit1



Nords also moved Mats Sundin.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:21 PM ET
Difference will be, if Eichel ever does demand a trade, the Sabres will be dealing from a position of weakness.
- buffalofan19


They might as well fold if they trade him. Who the (frank) is going to buy a season ticket if there's no Jack? They were already hurting for renewals pre-Covid.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:23 PM ET
They might as well fold if they trade him. Who the (frank) is going to buy a season ticket if there's no Jack? They were already hurting for renewals pre-Covid.
- Wetbandit1

I would legitimately just switch to rooting for whatever team he goes to. Idc if it’s Boston.

If they (frank) up having Jack freaking Eichel I’m not giving this franchise any of my money or attention.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:25 PM ET
Nords also moved Mats Sundin.
- dadeadhead


That's right, they did. I always forget about that one.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 30 @ 11:27 PM ET
That's right, they did. I always forget about that one.
- Wetbandit1



For Wendel Clark which turned into Claude Lemiuex.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Sep 30 @ 11:27 PM ET
And managed to get a heck of a return.

Point proven ?

- Pegullaville


Maybe not, it took Seguin a while to produce and Hamilton has bounced around. Here is a detailed article on the trade of 22 year old Kessel. The Sabres better get more than two firsts and hope they pan out if they trade Jack.

Revisiting the original Phil Kessel trade, where nobody is a winner today
In September of 2009 the Boston Bruins traded Phil Kessel to the Toronto Maple Leafs for three draft picks, two of which were later used on Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. None of those players remain with those teams today.

https://www.cbssports.com...h%20those%20teams%20today.



dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 30 @ 11:31 PM ET
That's right, they did. I always forget about that one.
- Wetbandit1



They had the #1 pick in 89 (Sundin), 90 (Owen Nolan), and 91 (Lindros). They were all traded before the Nords/Avs franchise won a cup.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 30 @ 11:48 PM ET
They might as well fold if they trade him. Who the (frank) is going to buy a season ticket if there's no Jack? They were already hurting for renewals pre-Covid.
- Wetbandit1


I agree,

That's why it might be a good time (obviously there is never a great time) to trade eichel.

If, they have no home games / fans to worry about.

I would be extremely disappointed as a season ticket holder if they traded him. Jack's the show. Chasing 50 goals/100 points would be entertaining.

If they rebuild (again) they are gonna get crushed, but maybe have a year more for dahlin to become "the man"
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:01 AM ET
in English please
- TheHank

What ever atleast will get a poop load for him
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:24 AM ET
I would legitimately just switch to rooting for whatever team he goes to. Idc if it’s Boston.

If they (frank) up having Jack freaking Eichel I’m not giving this franchise any of my money or attention.

- sbroads24


Hopefully he wins a cup .. but I'll still be a fan
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:55 AM ET
Yeah the Sabres trade jack and hockey in WNY will soon follow... no way the fan’s put up with trading jack.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 1 @ 4:16 AM ET
There's a team that "gets it".

Likely losing Krug? Let's go get OEL. Won't miss a beat.

- Powerslave


OEL has had a rough past couple of seasons, and he has a massive contract. I hope they do trade for him.

https://www.capfriendly.c...yers/oliver-ekman-larsson
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Oct 1 @ 5:11 AM ET
man that back reading was brutal
- homiedclown

the world according to gerbebuzz
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 1 @ 7:28 AM ET
When teams trade the top player in a deal they most often lose the deal.

Who was the last franchise player/center that was dealt in his early prime? Hall is not on Eichel's level or a center.

- GilPerreault11


Steve Dangle takes a look back at the 1992 Eric Lindros Trade and how the trade tree evolved to include 6 members of the Hockey Hall of Fame and directly resulted in the Colorado Avalanche winning two Stanley Cups. After a week-long arbitration process, the result was the biggest trade in NHL history, which saw Lindros' rights awarded to the Flyers in exchange for six players (Steve Duchesne, Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci and Chris Simon), two draft picks and $15 million.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...anley-cups-nhl-trade-tree/


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 1 @ 7:31 AM ET
He’s going public with a trade demand if we aren’t good by mid season.

Buckle up, because Risto will be the #1D, Hutton/Ullmark will be the goalies, and our best defensive forwards are going bye bye.

Who else is still in the league that Adams was teammates with? It’s Justin Williams time

- sbroads24



I missed this, where was that stated?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 7:36 AM ET
I missed this, where was that stated?
- IonSabres



It wasn't.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 1 @ 7:57 AM ET
Difference will be, if Eichel ever does demand a trade, the Sabres will be dealing from a position of weakness.
- buffalofan19


I don’t disagree.

Any team that trades the best player will ultimately be in tough.

All I’m saying is that #1C’s don’t come available too often and we may not get market value for him but it’s not like we won’t get some good pieces back.

Let’s just hope it doesn’t get to that point.

Let’s move Montour/Risto +++ and sign the right free agents and make the playoffs next year so we can keep Captain Jack
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 1 @ 8:07 AM ET
It wasn't.
- Powerslave


Ya, I know.

After revisiting that trade, I would increase the "ask" in a trade with the Rags

Zibanejad
Shersterkin
Kakko
Fast
2020-1st
2021-3rd (Sabres original)

Draft 2020
1-OA = Byfield
8-OA = Lundell

2020 FA, Offer Sheet one of:
Mantha, Burakovsky, C Brown, Kubalik, Hintz

UFA Signings:
DeMelo
Dillon

Trades
Risto and Montour for futures
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 1 @ 8:16 AM ET
For Wendel Clark which turned into Claude Lemiuex.
- dadeadhead

crazy times

and then islanders packed clark back to leafs got luongo

and then made that wonderful trade with luongo and olli to the panthers

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 8:30 AM ET
Ya, I know.

After revisiting that trade, I would increase the "ask" in a trade with the Rags

Zibanejad
Shersterkin
Kakko
Fast
2020-1st
2021-3rd (Sabres original)

Draft 2020
1-OA = Byfield
8-OA = Lundell

2020 FA, Offer Sheet one of:
Mantha, Burakovsky, C Brown, Kubalik, Hintz

UFA Signings:
DeMelo
Dillon

Trades
Risto and Montour for futures

- IonSabres


What is this
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 8:31 AM ET
Ya, I know.

After revisiting that trade, I would increase the "ask" in a trade with the Rags

Zibanejad
Shersterkin
Kakko
Fast
2020-1st
2021-3rd (Sabres original)

Draft 2020
1-OA = Byfield
8-OA = Lundell

2020 FA, Offer Sheet one of:
Mantha, Burakovsky, C Brown, Kubalik, Hintz

UFA Signings:
DeMelo
Dillon

Trades
Risto and Montour for futures

- IonSabres



I'm right there with you.

They want one of the top 5 centers in the game, they're going to pay. Because the damage that might be done with regards to this fanbase might, MIGHT be something that takes years to recover from.

But a return like that could also set this franchise up for years to come, too. But many fans wouldn't initially see that.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 1 @ 8:41 AM ET
which is the worst sabres trade of all time

ray ray for a dollar

or the ror trade


or am I missing a big one
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 8:42 AM ET
which is the worst sabres trade of all time

ray ray for a dollar

or the ror trade


or am I missing a big one

- homiedclown



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