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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
Buffalo: Laine
Winnipeg: 8th, Risto, Montour, and 2021 2nd
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
not with a giant contract extension looming
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Sep 28 @ 11:09 AM ET
All these trade scenarios for Laine are fun but the Jets won't be trading him anytime soon. They have him as an RFA for 4 more seasons so the Jets have plenty of time to lock him up long term at a contract both sides will be happy to sign.
- islansjet


Oh, are you the GM then? What's his qualifying offer gonna be? He seems like the best piece to use in order to acquire the D that they need going forward.

I think Byram is the perfect target for them. COL has cap space as well. Would be interesting what else would included with BB.

MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Jets have so many RFA and UFA with only 15m left. I’m not so sure Laine will still be a Jets in a year.
They need so many pieces, specially some défenses.
sbhatt
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brockville, ON
Joined: 09.05.2009

Sep 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
He's not worth that much. Patrick Laine is an elite shooter, but that is all he is...a one-dimensional player who does not show an ability to create his own scoring chances. Throw in his inconsistency, and you have a player who should not command two first round picks and a top 4 D-man.
ShoresideDevil
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.12.2019

Sep 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
All these trade scenarios for Laine are fun but the Jets won't be trading him anytime soon. They have him as an RFA for 4 more seasons so the Jets have plenty of time to lock him up long term at a contract both sides will be happy to sign.
- islansjet


I don't think it is a matter of contract. I think they have several high paid offensive pieces and very few defensive pieces, is the issue. I don't think his character is the reason for the trade rumors either. I just think they can get multiple players for 1 and that result would make them a deeper team and overall better team that has better chance of success in playoffs.

I think he is very one dimensional however, but also very valuable to other teams in need of a sniper and pure scorer. The Pacioretty comparison is a good one, but he is much younger and has a higher value. I don't think he will land a bigger return than Karlsson. The guy was top 2 in his position (and Dmen age much better) and top 10 in the league at the time. Look at the contract he was given AFTER that trade!

I can see a top 4 Dman, 1st round draft pick, NHL ready center and a B+ prospect for Laine winning the deal. If they are win now mode, why would they demand 2 first round picks? NJ could be a good trade partner, but not for the price I have seen from the WPG fans
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Pass... no, wait... HARD PASS
There is no chance you are getting Nico! It always makes me laugh how the fans of the team a player is being dangled from thinks that the return should be 2lbs of flesh. WPG doesn't want him, yet they want more coming back for this guy? He is a great young stud but I wouldn't trade Nico for Laine 1:1, let alone this horrible proposal.

- ShoresideDevil


This is a fair trade. I got the same backlash from Jets fans. When both sides say that it is an overlay, means that it's a great trade!

Thank you for your feedback!
ShoresideDevil
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.12.2019

Sep 28 @ 11:32 AM ET
This is a fair trade. I got the same backlash from Jets fans. When both sides say that it is an overlay, means that it's a great trade!

Thank you for your feedback!

- TheUltimateJet


That mentality is equivalent to both unattractive women and attractive women telling you that you're ugly and you walking away thinking you are handsome b/c of such.

Good luck with that
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
WPG is not going to trade Laine.

Price expected will be too high for a gifted offensive winger but his defensive play is somewhat a disaster. He is only 22 so maybe the right coach could improve his play but the defensive lapses and consistincy issues is why he is considered a borderline top lone player rather than an elite winger.

Plus any team receiving him would need cap space for a new deal in which hes going to want more $$$
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Sep 28 @ 11:45 AM ET
Hard to believe anyone will even come close to paying that price. I sure wouldn't.
- Iago

Good player for sure but I wouldn't pay that price (2 firsts + top 4 D) either.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
Well, when I was a boy we would have......

What was the question again ???
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
That mentality is equivalent to both unattractive women and attractive women telling you that you're ugly and you walking away thinking you are handsome b/c of such.

Good luck with that

- ShoresideDevil

That does not make any sense. What does me attracting women have anything to do with Laine?
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 28 @ 12:45 PM ET
zero chance on that for sure
- brizer

Exactly.
iknowbest
Seattle Kraken
Location: I believe in unicorns, santa c
Joined: 08.28.2012

Sep 28 @ 12:46 PM ET

Laine is overrated. Not quite as overrated as Matthews / Marner level yet, but definitely overrated.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Laine is overrated. Not quite as overrated as Matthews / Marner level yet, but definitely overrated.
- iknowbest

he's lazy and has a fortnight addiction....he's a no no
Komisaurus Rex
Ottawa Senators
Location: If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism - 1975, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
I would think any offer for Laine from the Habs would have to include either Kotkaniemi or Suzuki as a starting point to get it done. A bunch of average to above average pieces won't do much for the Jets, they have plenty of that. They need a talent that with a similar pedigree to Laine otherwise they might as well keep him.
- 13sundin13



Of course a leaf fan would be desperately *hoping* that Habs get rid of a Suzuki and KK, that's how you know they are on the right track, they are starting to fear our talent!
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Sep 28 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'd love to get Laine in Montreal even if he is "just" a sniper. We need one desperately, but not at any cost.
Looking at capfriendly if Laine gets 10% raise on next RFA deal he's still looking at ~7.5M and then has them with 5 forwards signed at 35M and Little at 5ish.

That means 6F 1D and 1G for ~53M.
Less than 28M for 7F 6D 1G methinks WPG needs space.

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Of course a leaf fan would be desperately *hoping* that Habs get rid of a Suzuki and KK, that's how you know they are on the right track, they are starting to fear our talent!
- Komisaurus Rex



Not going to lie, Suzuki looked extremely good last year and KK is still young and coming up so the Habs future up the middle is solid. But I would be equally concerned with the Habs getting one of the highest scoring wingers in the entire league since he came into the league...

In the end, I just think a Laine deal from the Jets doesn't make sense without getting a legitimate top 1 or 1A centre back. From the Habs, those two players would be the only on the team that fit that description so logically, the conversation would revolve around them. If not, there are a bunch of other teams who could probably provided that piece.

Maybe Domi gets it done but he's really more of a 2-3rd line centre and Laine is worth more than that to me. The rest of the pieces are really just decent role players and the Jets have enough of that or can get that on the free agent market.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'd love to get Laine in Montreal even if he is "just" a sniper. We need one desperately, but not at any cost.
Looking at capfriendly if Laine gets 10% raise on next RFA deal he's still looking at ~7.5M and then has them with 5 forwards signed at 35M and Little at 5ish.

That means 6F 1D and 1G for ~53M.
Less than 28M for 7F 6D 1G methinks WPG needs space.

- braidan


Why would Laine accept a 10% qualifying offer? He would be more likely to hold out then sign it. I don't expect him accepting anything less than 9.5M and probably asking for at least 10M.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 4:26 PM ET
Jets have so many RFA and UFA with only 15m left. I’m not so sure Laine will still be a Jets in a year.
They need so many pieces, specially some défenses.

- MONSTERSofMETALZ

What?? So you don’t follow winnipeg at all, got it.
brizer
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 4:37 PM ET
also to this point.....for a 29 year old, clearly on the decline karlsson, Ottawa got:

a top 4 d
2 good prospects
1 top prospect
1 unprotected 1st (3rd overall)
1 2nd
and another conditional 1st (condition not met, but still part of the deal)

and that was for a past his prime karlsson with only 1 year left to being a UFA

Laine will require more than that to acquire....whether he's worth it or not.

like someone else said, from the Habs the deal would start with Suzuki, Caufield or KK and your 2020 1st, a 2nd, and add from there.

- sensarmy_11
lololololololololololololololololololol....keeep him and try to sign him...lololol....suzuki+kk+first+2nd...lololololololololololololololololololol
brizer
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 4:42 PM ET
WPG is not going to trade Laine.

Price expected will be too high for a gifted offensive winger but his defensive play is somewhat a disaster. He is only 22 so maybe the right coach could improve his play but the defensive lapses and consistincy issues is why he is considered a borderline top lone player rather than an elite winger.

Plus any team receiving him would need cap space for a new deal in which hes going to want more $$$

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


they cry when they see laine trade vs a 2nd center +2 second pick lololololololll,
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Sep 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
Why would Laine accept a 10% qualifying offer? He would be more likely to hold out then sign it. I don't expect him accepting anything less than 9.5M and probably asking for at least 10M.
- Glak18

That's my point though, in the best case scenario he's at 7.5 and that makes things tough. Gets even worse with his actual salary.
tonyleopold 33
St Louis Blues
Joined: 09.06.2019

Sep 28 @ 11:55 PM ET
Dunn, two 1st
jokc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 12.22.2017

Oct 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
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