the idea of saving a few bucks by bringing in a replacement level 6/7 D instead of Hagg implies that the minor cap savings outweighs Hagg's value compared to a scrub

I disagree. Hagg is a useful player who is improving. There's a year over year benefit to having players who have chemistry with their teammates and a familiarity with the coaches and the team's systems

I’m not saying that’d be my plan, I’m saying I don’t see Fletcher shaking things to the point you’re gonna see big changes. Plus, a flat cap makes dealing bigger contracts very difficult.
- Dave21Brown

Always chasing their tails. Whether it be overpaying for free agents, trading draft picks for rentals, missing on first round picks etc.... It's getting old. Christ it was old 20 years ago.

for someone that tells me I have nothing pretty regularly, you doing basic math like you're adding to the discussion is hilarious.
- Ftown19125

lets see hagg signed for 1.6 correct? Yes he did. You can sign a vet for 1 million. Yes you can. So therefore the savings would be 600k correct? Yes that it is correct. See you next Tuesday pal.

Hagg (frank)ing sucks at the game of hockey

Well if Seattle is run but competent people I dont think they want Hagg. Not sure why you say a very good chance. There will be many 6/7 caliber dman available.
- login

Look at what vegas did. Great model. Stockpile descent d. Trade and improve. Teams getting ready for a cup run. Haag is what he is. But he would be on most clubs active roster.

the idea of saving a few bucks by bringing in a replacement level 6/7 D instead of Hagg implies that the minor cap savings outweighs Hagg's value compared to a scrub

I disagree. Hagg is a useful player who is improving. There's a year over year benefit to having players who have chemistry with their teammates and a familiarity with the coaches and the team's systems
- Coburns_Nose

Like many say every dollar counts. Overspending on your bottom pair and 4th line isn't wise no matter how small the savings.

What value does Hagg add? He is is your run of the mill replacement level player.

Look at what vegas did. Great model. Stockpile descent d. Trade and improve. Teams getting ready for a cup run. Haag is what he is. But he would be on most clubs active roster.
- Peter Richards

Yes decent D. I dont think Hagg is very good and is replacement level player.

Pretty much. That's the problem with spending to the cap before a team is legit ready to compete for a cup.

The hope is the young players take another step forward and the veteran core can still contribute at a good clip. Add a bottom six forward and defensive depth on bargain contracts and hope for the best.
- StepfordSam

Can see the handwriting on the wall, the bottom six forward is going to be Nate Thompson.

Hagg (frank)ing sucks at the game of hockey
- HeeroYuy

Fantastic analysis, thanks for the input.

Solid deal for Haag. Good for both sides.

i'm glad we resigned haag so he's people's punching bag and not giroux

i'm glad we resigned haag so he's people's punching bag and not giroux
- 2Real

unless he is traded and they keep Ghost.....

ttt

That Bobby Clarke was one sneaky devil
- Dave21Brown

Anything not expressly prohibited is permitted :-)

No complaints with this deal. Hagg improved his play under AV this year IMO. Congrats to Hagg
- arichardson22

Agreed

So bring back the same team that we know isn't good enough to compete for a Cup? That's the plan?
- PLindbergh31

Hmmm...for the few months prior to the shutdown they seemed pretty legit to me. I don't see why they can't be that team again.

Hmmm...for the few months prior to the shutdown they seemed pretty legit to me. I don't see why they can't be that team again.
- Scoob

Wrong, they are horrible! And they have zero prospects that might make a difference and fill a role.

I am fine with Hagg. Don't love him and don't hate him.

Need to get Myers signed to see what kinda cap space they will have. After signing Myers, No Pa and the backup they will be right up against the cap.

Defense under contract at the NHL level for 2021

Provy-Niskanen
Sanheim-
Hagg-Ghost
Morin

Not sure that gets it done even after Myers resigns. I think Ghost gets moved.

Wrong, they are horrible! And they have zero prospects that might make a difference and fill a role.
- ClaudeFather

maybe Laughton, ghost , and 2022 first can get Laine to switch things up.

I am fine with Hagg. Don't love him and don't hate him.

Need to get Myers signed to see what kinda cap space they will have. After signing Myers, No Pa and the backup they will be right up against the cap.

Defense under contract at the NHL level for 2021

Provy-Niskanen
Sanheim-
Hagg-Ghost
Morin

Not sure that gets it done even after Myers resigns. I think Ghost gets moved.
- mickel25

Ghost is available per Pierre Lebrun, just posted on the score app. Pretty obvious he was available but seems like it’s time.

maybe Laughton, ghost , and 2022 first can get Laine to switch things up.
- login

Two firsts!

https://twitter.com/Hocke...n.html1310604681790533633

https://twitter.com/Hocke...n.html1310604681790533633
- login

Why don’t we just hire a stat nerd to be the GM, look at this chart that encompasses all of hockey!!

So unless Van Riemsdyk, or Gostisbehere's contracts are moved, what changes do you see to the roster?
- PLindbergh31

Our Young players get better.......

2nd year under AV will clean up the wrinkles in the current system they play

What realistically did you expect? At 1 mill what FA do you think is going to join the 3rd pair and turn this team around? Demelo? Holzer? Del Zotto? Thats all you are getting for 1 mill.

Hagg is a fine 3rd pair Dman. He knows his role and he does it well. Plus 1.6 mill is a hell of a lot better than Braun at 3.8 mill

Two firsts!
- ClaudeFather

and then you get to either lose him or pay him about 9-10 million the following season. sounds like a great idea.