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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 12:34 PM ET
I saw every game. Clearly they can play better than they did. Major changes aren't required to have that happen.
- Scoob



Some apparently aren't able to grasp the concept of how a team grows and gets better. Young players grow and get better. That's the formula for success.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
Always the who are you signing to replace. Go look at the free agent list. I will keep it simple and just add 2 former Flyers. MDZ or Schenn. Hell I would offer tampa future considerations and take Coburn back over Hagg fpr 100k more.

You can easily wait it out to see who is left to sign as there is always players available.

- login



MDZ and Schenn are not better than Hagg.......... The fact you think Schenn is a better option tells all of us how little you know about the sport.

Why the hell would you give assets for Coburn when we can get a 3rd pair Dman without costing us anything........ My god why are you so high on retrending whipping boys. Every single Dman mentioned here was hated by fans here. Im sure you you were one of them.

Delete your account. Its the best way to stop embarassing yourself. MR. Trade Voracek for Parise....
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
I saw every game. Clearly they can play better than they did. Major changes aren't required to have that happen.
- Scoob



there is merit to what you say. More time with the coach, playoff experience then some luck with Lindblom, Patrick and Frost and the same team is a better team. The other side of it is that other teams will also get better. They need speed. I do believe the D will be better, they had to learn from the playoffs, the breakouts should get better
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
Some apparently aren't able to grasp the concept of how a team grows and gets better. Young players grow and get better. That's the formula for success.
- MJL


Lies. Every player has an arbitrary attribute number and that is how good they are for life.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Some apparently aren't able to grasp the concept of how a team grows and gets better. Young players grow and get better. That's the formula for success.
- MJL


This. The pipeline isn’t barren either. This Franchise is in pretty good shape. Would have been nice to have a bit of Cap space but they are not cap hurt. They don’t need to give up any major pieces to stay cap compliant like a fair chunk of teams.

The Flyers are able to sign their young talent which will be if it’s this team’s long term outlook.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think Pittsburgh has already made two trades. Why are you comparing the Flyers to the Penguins?
- PLindbergh31


One awful trade and a cap dump. They gave away a decent player for a 7th just to get rid of him.

These trades dont make them better.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
Flyers get 2 surprises from their farm system or last years injured players then they are a better team?

YES

NO
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
Flyers get 2 surprises from their farm system or last years injured players then they are a better team?

YES

NO

- wcorvette


Me. Me. Me. I know this one!

YES
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
One would think that having a 4.5M cap hit bouncing between the lineup and healthy scratch-dom would be the bigger mistake. But yes, the return is kind of important, isnt it?
- Doc_Sarcasm


Unless the Flyers sign another Dman. Ghost would be in the lineup. Braun is hitting FA.
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Sep 28 @ 12:46 PM ET
One awful trade and a cap dump. They gave away a decent player for a 7th just to get rid of him.

These trades dont make them better.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Exactly. People clamoring for trades are the same people at the games screaming "SHOOT" on the powerplay.


login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
MDZ and Schenn are not better than Hagg.......... The fact you think Schenn is a better option tells all of us how little you know about the sport.

Why the hell would you give assets for Coburn when we can get a 3rd pair Dman without costing us anything........ My god why are you so high on retrending whipping boys. Every single Dman mentioned here was hated by fans here. Im sure you you were one of them.

Delete your account. Its the best way to stop embarassing yourself. MR. Trade Voracek for Parise....

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You will get the same production for those as you will hagg at less money. You dont seem to grasp that in any way. What part of future considerations for Coburn didnt you get?

Please show me where i said jake for Parise you clown. You cant as it never happened.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Some apparently aren't able to grasp the concept of how a team grows and gets better. Young players grow and get better. That's the formula for success.
- MJL


They dont have to get better is something you and others ignore.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
You will get the same production for those as you will hagg at less money. You dont seem to grasp that in any way. What part of future considerations for Coburn didnt you get?

Please show me where i said jake for Parise you clown. You cant as it never happened.

- login


Next you’re going to tell us you weren’t saying to trade for Bozak.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Unless the Flyers sign another Dman. Ghost would be in the lineup. Braun is hitting FA.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Agreed, Braun will still get paid out there. Not here. Flyers have enough depth to let him walk.

Ghost, Morin, and Friedman. Plus a couple prospects developing.

Sign Myers as long a contract that you can with considering cap compliance in the long run.
Tocchet2292
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Beaumont, AB
Joined: 09.29.2006

Sep 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Hmmm...for the few months prior to the shutdown they seemed pretty legit to me. I don't see why they can't be that team again.
- Scoob



Agreed, best bet would be for Patrick to magically be healthy, that kid still has talent and if he can get anywhere near the potential he was drafter for, the forward group will be better.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...cyKh9H50LqtTcphEEX2KUTeq4
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
One awful trade and a cap dump. They gave away a decent player for a 7th just to get rid of him.

These trades dont make them better.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I guess we will find out. Good to know the Penguins won't be in the playoff mix. I've already crossed them off.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
I think Pittsburgh has already made two trades. Why are you comparing the Flyers to the Penguins?
- PLindbergh31


True, the Flyers are better because they made the playoffs and the Pens didnt.

And I don't think trading a 1st for a bottom-6 forward and trading a top-9 forward for a 3rd pairing D are the kind of franchise-altering trades that this terrible team would need to become a contender.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Flyers get 2 surprises from their farm system or last years injured players then they are a better team?

YES

NO

- wcorvette


Patrick can't come back from injury, Frost isn't ready, and Giroux continues his rapid decline.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Next you’re going to tell us you weren’t saying to trade for Bozak.
- Ftown19125

Never said trade for parise, like a typical demo that you are; you spin it when it was clear that wasnt said.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
You will get the same production for those as you will hagg at less money. You dont seem to grasp that in any way. What part of future considerations for Coburn didnt you get?

Please show me where i said jake for Parise you clown. You cant as it never happened.

- login


Don’t think those guys are as good as Hagg. Sorry, not on board with that. Hagg’s value is 1.6 and is a fair deal. He is better then 1.0 players.

The player on D not fitting right now is Ghost. Don’t get me wrong. He still has value but is not a fit on this current team. Hagg does fit a role and that
Is why CF signed him.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
Me. Me. Me. I know this one!

YES

- peesinwind



LOL
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
Patrick can't come back from injury, Frost isn't ready, and Giroux continues his rapid decline.
- PLindbergh31



you forgot the sky is falling
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
Don’t think those guys are as good as Hagg. Sorry, not on board with that. Hagg’s value is 1.6 and is a fair deal. He is better then 1.0 players.

The player on D not fitting right now is Ghost. Don’t get me wrong. He still has value but is not a fit on this current team. Hagg does fit a role and that
Is why CF signed him.

- peesinwind

He isnt a fit because the coach wont play him. Not a ghost fan though would take him any day over Hagg.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flyers-name-chris-stewart-player-development-coach/c-319213232?fbclid=IwAR05iAY-pz-PgjBdbd61GMJoQUzU4thP-EcyKh9H50LqtTcphEEX2KUTeq4
- arichardson22

He seemed to be very well liked by the guys in the locker room and seemed like a good pro.
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