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wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
He isnt a fit because the coach wont play him. Not a ghost fan though would take him any day over Hagg.
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two different players, fit is a big part of the Ghost issue, taking Ghost over Hagg doesn't solve that.

I do think if Ghost could play with Nisk you might see a better Ghost.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
True, the Flyers are better because they made the playoffs and the Pens didnt.

And I don't think trading a 1st for a bottom-6 forward and trading a top-9 forward for a 3rd pairing D are the kind of franchise-altering trades that this terrible team would need to become a contender.

- jmatchett383


They have magic seeds they are going to give Patrick and Laughton and turn them into Crosby and Malkin.

Then Fletcher is going to take the delorean out and 1.21 gigawatts later it will be 2009...... boom 3 Cups.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
He seemed to be very well liked by the guys in the locker room and seemed like a good pro.
- ClaudeFather



He was just cooked as a player by the time he came here. But for those morons who say he sucked at hockey, you don't score 160 goals in the NHL if you "suck at hockey".

He seems like he has a good mentality to be a player development type guy.


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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
two different players, fit is a big part of the Ghost issue, taking Ghost over Hagg doesn't solve that.

I do think if Ghost could play with Nisk you might see a better Ghost.

- wcorvette

The name of the game is puck possession, getting puck out of the zone, and passing. Hagg does neither well. Up to the coach to make it work. Ghost has his wort's no doubt. Seems Ghost had to play a perfect game to stay in the lineup. Ghost can help more than Hagg is all.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
He was just cooked as a player by the time he came here. But for those morons who say he sucked at hockey, you don't score 160 goals in the NHL if you "suck at hockey".

He seems like he has a good mentality to be a player development type guy.

- MBFlyerfan

Absolutely, believe it was Patrick who mentioned him as someone he was talking to during his rough patch as well.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
The name of the game is puck possession, getting puck out of the zone, and passing. Hagg does neither well. Up to the coach to make it work. Ghost has his wort's no doubt. Seems Ghost had to play a perfect game to stay in the lineup. Ghost can help more than Hagg is all.
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agreed on what Ghost brings and I was in the corner that Ghost should have played but it is a fit issue. I see why Hagg played, they needed that physical stay at home D. Honestly I said then and still think they should have sat Braun for a game.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Never said trade for parise, like a typical demo that you are; you spin it when it was clear that wasnt said.
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It 100% was said. You were the one doing the spinning after everyone was laughing at you.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
He was just cooked as a player by the time he came here. But for those morons who say he sucked at hockey, you don't score 160 goals in the NHL if you "suck at hockey".

He seems like he has a good mentality to be a player development type guy.

- MBFlyerfan


Milan Lucic has more. Milan Lucic sucks.

But seriously, I agree, dude just had nothing left in the tank.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
agreed on what Ghost brings and I was in the corner that Ghost should have played but it is a fit issue. I see why Hagg played, they needed that physical stay at home D. Honestly I said then and still think they should have sat Braun for a game.
- wcorvette

Honestly I don't see this physical play from Hagg. Yes when he gets beat and chasing players I guess he hits them.

U get why Braun stayed in the lineup. Him and Hagg where a bad fit!!!!
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
It 100% was said. You were the one doing the spinning after everyone was laughing at you.
- Ftown19125

No it was not. What I said was jake for parise. Does either team do it. Then in a f/u post right after I clearly stated this is the type of deal you are probably looking at if you move jake.

Nowhere did I say trade Jake for Parise. Nowhere. Only you and the other dope where laughing as others knew that I never said it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
He was just cooked as a player by the time he came here. But for those morons who say he sucked at hockey, you don't score 160 goals in the NHL if you "suck at hockey".

He seems like he has a good mentality to be a player development type guy.

- MBFlyerfan


JVR has 250 goals. Should have made him the player development coach.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
He seemed to be very well liked by the guys in the locker room and seemed like a good pro.
- ClaudeFather


Yeah I like the hire, and it’s similar to Lappy’s history with us. Stewart seemed to be very well liked and I know a lot of the younger guys spoke highly of him. Especially Patrick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Don’t think those guys are as good as Hagg. Sorry, not on board with that. Hagg’s value is 1.6 and is a fair deal. He is better then 1.0 players.

The player on D not fitting right now is Ghost. Don’t get me wrong. He still has value but is not a fit on this current team. Hagg does fit a role and that
Is why CF signed him.

- peesinwind



That would depend on what Ghost we would be getting. Ghost getting his game back would be a definite fit for this team.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
JVR has 250 goals. Should have made him the player development coach.
- PLindbergh31


Developing players includes helping them acclimate to being a professional. Everybody that makes it to the NHL has talent. Not everybody has the mindset and work ethic to stay in the NHL. I actually think Stewart will be good with the young players in that regard.

But if goals scored is the key to being hired, we should shoot a little higher than JVR.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yeah I like the hire, and it’s similar to Lappy’s history with us. Stewart seemed to be very well liked and I know a lot of the younger guys spoke highly of him. Especially Patrick.
- arichardson22


Just think if Stewart can develop players like Laperriere had the PK running like a well oiled machine it will be a tremendous hire.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
So bring back the same team that we know isn't good enough to compete for a Cup? That's the plan?
- PLindbergh31


GM basically said he's keeping it together and banking on internal improvements.

So yeah, that's the plan.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
JVR has 250 goals. Should have made him the player development coach.
- PLindbergh31



Why are you such an bumhole all the time?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
GM basically said he's keeping it together and banking on internal improvements.

So yeah, that's the plan.

- Tomahawk


Well that plan is better than trading draft picks for aging rentals. I just think banking on Patrick coming back healthy is penny wise and pound foolish. There is a young core that can definitely improve, I just think at the same time as the youth is progressing, the veterans will decline. So the productivity will stagnate. I guess we shall see.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
No complaints with this deal. Hagg improved his play under AV this year IMO. Congrats to Hagg
- arichardson22

The dislike towards Hagg is weird. I’m happy he’s coming back.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
The only guy I would want from this year's UFAs is Pietro. I know he is 30 but he is a stud and had a great season. He has 5 years of probably being a sure top 10 defender in the league and you pay for that. I see him getting 7 years at 9.5 and I would not be averse to that deal if that was the missing piece.

But we are not close, so I would probably not do that.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 1:36 PM ET
That would depend on what Ghost we would be getting. Ghost getting his game back would be a definite fit for this team.
- MJL


Ghost looked a lot better in the playoffs. Who knows? With more recovery time how he could. Just at present level he is not a fit. Even his improved playoff performance seemed hard to find his fit.

I wouldn’t give him away for nothing. Hockey trade is what I see him moved for. Think he has game still in him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
He was just cooked as a player by the time he came here. But for those morons who say he sucked at hockey, you don't score 160 goals in the NHL if you "suck at hockey".

He seems like he has a good mentality to be a player development type guy.

- MBFlyerfan

I was happy to have Chris Stewart for one season. Period.
pucks4all
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.01.2011

Sep 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
That would depend on what Ghost we would be getting. Ghost getting his game back would be a definite fit for this team.
- MJL

It definitely would. Then his contract looks great.
pucks4all
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.01.2011

Sep 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
The dislike towards Hagg is weird. I’m happy he’s coming back.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
From Ek's latest blog:

Also, if something isn't done to share revenues or bail out certain teams we could see up to 4 franchises be forced to either fold or re-locate within two seasons....


I'd be fine with that - the folding/relocating part that is, not the bailing out part.
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