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eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Sep 28 @ 3:37 PM ET
Do some research there bud. Ontario has given far more money to the other provinces then Alberta has since they started distributing wealth among provinces. Quebec on the other hand is useless.
- ponglenis
Alberta has given well over $650 billion - or should I say, $650 billion was stolen by disgraceful b*st*rds in eastern canada. Let me know when you have people stand in the middle of the street in front of your house, and scream "hit me" at cars - because I have seen it, out here in Calgary - and you eastern canadians laugh and sh*t disturb as much as you can
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Sep 28 @ 3:50 PM ET
Alberta has given well over $650 billion - or should I say, $650 billion was stolen by disgraceful b*st*rds in eastern canada. Let me know when you have people stand in the middle of the street in front of your house, and scream "hit me" at cars - because I have seen it, out here in Calgary - and you eastern canadians laugh and sh*t disturb as much as you can
- eastcanadAREaholes



You guys are arguing the same point.. Both Ontario and Alberta get raped by the other provinces with equalization payments and a large chunk of those payments go to Quebec.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Alberta has given well over $650 billion - or should I say, $650 billion was stolen by disgraceful b*st*rds in eastern canada. Let me know when you have people stand in the middle of the street in front of your house, and scream "hit me" at cars - because I have seen it, out here in Calgary - and you eastern canadians laugh and sh*t disturb as much as you can
- eastcanadAREaholes



That's true, I've seen lieberals online celebrating the high unemployment rate in Alberta and going to the lengths of even laughing at suicides resulting of that.


Very disgusting people.



Before covid hit the unemployment rate among young men in Alberta was nearing 20%, levels not seen since the 80's and they celebrate things like that.


This government wants people to rely on the government for a pay cheque, their goal is full blown communism, why you think they're so cozied up with China?
OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2015

Sep 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
You guys are arguing the same point.. Both Ontario and Alberta get raped by the other provinces with equalization payments and a large chunk of those payments go to Quebec.
- Azuredoom

Yeah, we'd be better off without each other. If Sask is in, I'd be happy with a Sask/ Alberta separation, but no more please (if BC comes, there's no point in going), go your own way. We'd be better as friends than family.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
i think it's ok to let some of these millionaires get laid off or for the league to rework itself to be more viable
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
Anti-Alberta arrogant attitude you have, has been noted. It's not going to pay off for you, polls are already showing 30-40% support for Alberta separation - that will mean something to you, the moment eastern canada no longer takes $20 billion per year from Alberta. Albertans have the power to drastically reduce your quality of life and government services. Keep voting liberal, keep insulting Albertans - you're doing the heavy lifting bud, people like you are the greatest promoters of Alberta separation
- eastcanadAREaholes

Ironic, Rene Levesque did predict Alberta would separate before Quebec .
OurSaviour_34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville , ON
Joined: 10.05.2019

Sep 28 @ 4:31 PM ET
Scrap the Cap!
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Sep 28 @ 4:33 PM ET
The taxes thing gets overblown. It's way down the list of things players care about since it really makes zero difference in the quality of life, and the actual financial difference isn't as much as people think. Ego is more important than taxes. If they feel they're worth 7 million, they want to be paid 7 million.
- Hunkulese


It absolutely is a factor. Krug is not dumb. Cap hit does not matter to him. It is the amount of money he will earn... If players aren't taking into account taxes, then they need a new agent.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 28 @ 4:35 PM ET
All revenue should be split evenly amongst all the franchises... including local tv/ radio deals, merchandising, etc...
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 28 @ 4:39 PM ET
Alberta has given well over $650 billion - or should I say, $650 billion was stolen by disgraceful b*st*rds in eastern canada. Let me know when you have people stand in the middle of the street in front of your house, and scream "hit me" at cars - because I have seen it, out here in Calgary - and you eastern canadians laugh and sh*t disturb as much as you can
- eastcanadAREaholes

you are correct. people in the GTA hate alberta for the obvious reason. alberta would be better off starting the separation ball rolling. i'd wager saskatchewan would join in. BC would by necessity go its own way along with the brotherly Yukon. Then Ontario and its puppy manitoba would be left to deal with Quebec... lols.
eternal_flames
Calgary Flames
Location: sIgN aNd TrAdE
Joined: 06.05.2006

Sep 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
Any sIgN aNd TrAdE roomers?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
What four teams?

Arizona
Florida
Carolina
and New Jersey?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
What four teams?

Arizona
Florida
Carolina
and New Jersey?

- Mentalorgasm5



Coyotes
Senators
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 28 @ 5:05 PM ET
you are correct. people in the GTA hate alberta for the obvious reason. alberta would be better off starting the separation ball rolling. i'd wager saskatchewan would join in. BC would by necessity go its own way along with the brotherly Yukon. Then Ontario and its puppy manitoba would be left to deal with Quebec... lols.
- MisterBrown

It's interesting to read this thread. I thought it was just us Americans that engaged in this geographical politics battle.

Based on what I'm reading... Alberta is the US midwest & Texas, Ontario is the US east cost, and Quebec is US west coast.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 28 @ 5:14 PM ET
It's interesting to read this thread. I thought it was just us Americans that engaged in this geographical politics battle.

Based on what I'm reading... Alberta is the US midwest & Texas, Ontario is the US east cost, and Quebec is US west coast.

- SuperHenderson13




Alberta is definitely the Texas I'm Joe Rogan'ing my ass to Alberta or the Territories once they make the taxes more unbearable in Ontario. Only a matter of time. They're just going to keep finding new ways to tax Canadians so they can pay back all that money they've been stealing.


Americans fleeing democratic states for greener pastures. Good on Joe, based as (frank) to move to Texas and build a ranch.


kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Sep 28 @ 5:15 PM ET
I think what happens in 20-21 is players lose 20% of there revenue to help cover the lost REV so a player making $10 mil per year would actually only get 8 mil. Teh harder issue is guys that signed before Corona are also going to make 20% more then guys that sign this year. So the RFA and UFa is going to sign for way less and also give up 20% of what he signs for. IE a guy that signed for $5 per year back in JAN the identical player is only going to get 3.5 and they both lose 20% .
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Sep 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
It absolutely is a factor. Krug is not dumb. Cap hit does not matter to him. It is the amount of money he will earn... If players aren't taking into account taxes, then they need a new agent.
- Mahewman


Or they just hire an accountant. You can get around most of the tax difference with a retirement compensation arrangement. The tax also is only on the signing bonus and the home games. The actual difference also isn't nearly as big as some people would have you think. They bring up the states with 0 state income tax but ignore the fact that they're still paying close 40% from federal taxes.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 28 @ 6:00 PM ET
I think what happens in 20-21 is players lose 20% of there revenue to help cover the lost REV so a player making $10 mil per year would actually only get 8 mil. Teh harder issue is guys that signed before Corona are also going to make 20% more then guys that sign this year. So the RFA and UFa is going to sign for way less and also give up 20% of what he signs for. IE a guy that signed for $5 per year back in JAN the identical player is only going to get 3.5 and they both lose 20% .
- kmw4631



Everyone has had to play by the rules of supply and demand for years now and lots of players and owners got rich

Well the demand is going to take a huge hit.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 28 @ 6:05 PM ET
Yeah, we'd be better off without each other. If Sask is in, I'd be happy with a Sask/ Alberta separation, but no more please (if BC comes, there's no point in going), go your own way. We'd be better as friends than family.
- OilyJay


Hi. Sask here.

(frank) off.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Sep 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
It absolutely is a factor. Krug is not dumb. Cap hit does not matter to him. It is the amount of money he will earn... If players aren't taking into account taxes, then they need a new agent.
- Mahewman

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
Here’s an option. Don’t overpay
Optimus_9944
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Miramichi, NB
Joined: 06.05.2016

Sep 28 @ 6:09 PM ET
Nah. They'd still lose to Boston. 😉
- gergeswillems



I can’t even get mad on how accurate that is
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Sep 28 @ 6:14 PM ET
I can’t even get mad on how accurate that is
- Optimus_9944

A man's (team) got to know his limitations...
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 28 @ 6:25 PM ET
It's interesting to read this thread. I thought it was just us Americans that engaged in this geographical politics battle.

Based on what I'm reading... Alberta is the US midwest & Texas, Ontario is the US east cost, and Quebec is US west coast.

- SuperHenderson13


There was a time twenty -thirty years ago there were these running jokes of Canadians wanting to trade Alberta for Michigan/Minnesota etc because of purported redneckedness of the former.
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

Sep 28 @ 6:30 PM ET
Of course. Let the tax payers bail out billionaire owners and millionaire players.

Remember when the owners started laying off workers because 'it's just business'... LOL...

- Queenie_5_hole


The US CONGRESS is soo messed up they cant even decide on AIDE relief for its citizens..THE US president is the worst and gives money to Billionaires all the time before he helps the people...so doable !
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