I think 2-3 years from now if he's still around the fanbase will hate him the way they hate Loui right now.
- NorthNuck

lots of people bought into the "re-tool on the fly" bullsh!t too. some caught on after 2-3 years... some still don't.

Might want to give that one another year or 2 before deciding whether it's a good signing.
- NorthNuck

Myers was good for us this season, and in the playoffs.

Myers was good for us this season, and in the playoffs.
- Retinalz

I though he was okay. Sometimes good sometimes less so.


I think the three D I would protect next year for the E draft would not have his name as one.

I saw someone tweet last night "It's like they're different species"


- NorthNuck

Sure, one is Swedish and the other is a weasel.

this is awesome.

management decides to go "re-tool on the fly" and it's the fanbase's fault.

apparently the fans can't stand a rebuild....

but this idiotic plan devised by benning is still going to take a decade!

it's the fans fault. it's the media's fault. it's everyone's fault. but don't you dare lay any of it on inept management.
- RealityChecker

NHL has decided this year that no divisional winners will effect the ranking in the draft so Caps will draft ahead of the Avs based on points.

lots of people bought into the "re-tool on the fly" bullsh!t too. some caught on after 2-3 years... some still don't.
- RealityChecker

At the end of the day having someone as inept as Jim Benning running the show in his early years established what a full blown rebuild would have done, picking at the top of the draft, so at the end of the day the rebuild folks got partially what we wanted. However, he pissed away a lot of draft picks for quick fixes so we’ll never know if they would’ve worked out or not.

A few things I currently believe; Aquilini is a better more knowledgeable owner than he was 8-10 years ago, Jim Benning is a better more knowledgeable GM than he was 6 years ago.....Travis Green is still a mediocre coach though

At the end of the day having someone as inept as Jim Benning running the show in his early years established what a full blown rebuild would have done, picking at the top of the draft, so at the end of the day the rebuild folks got partially what we wanted. However, he pissed away a lot of draft picks for quick fixes so we’ll never know if they would’ve worked out or not.

A few things I currently believe; Aquilini is a better more knowledgeable owner than he was 8-10 years ago, Jim Benning is a better more knowledgeable GM than he was 6 years ago.....Travis Green is still a mediocre coach though
- Pacificgem

i agree.

i dislike benning as the gm.

in a perfect world, he would have been the assistant gm to a full rebuild-minded gm. the canucks with prospects, young players and cap space...

benning has built a nice core with some pieces that should transition to the roster in the next few seasons. had he accepted that the team would suck (and they did even with his best efforts,) the team would be largely in the same place but with much less roster bloat. they would be well positioned to take advantage of the roster chaos that the pandemic has provided.

I though he was okay. Sometimes good sometimes less so.


I think the three D I would protect next year for the E draft would not have his name as one.
- VANTEL

I think he's a decent to good defenceman, and brings something the team definitely needs: size. Not in a heavy hitting way, but in the playoffs it was evident he just wasn't pushed off the puck like the rest of the team was.

I wouldn't be upset in losing him, but I think it would create a short-term hole.

i agree.

i dislike benning as the gm.

in a perfect world, he would have been the assistant gm to a full rebuild-minded gm. the canucks with prospects, young players and cap space...

benning has built a nice core with some pieces that should transition to the roster in the next few seasons. had he accepted that the team would suck (and they did even with his best efforts,) the team would be largely in the same place but with much less roster bloat. they would be well positioned to take advantage of the roster chaos that the pandemic has provided.
- RealityChecker

“It is what it is”.........

i agree.

i dislike benning as the gm.

in a perfect world, he would have been the assistant gm to a full rebuild-minded gm. the canucks with prospects, young players and cap space...

benning has built a nice core with some pieces that should transition to the roster in the next few seasons. had he accepted that the team would suck (and they did even with his best efforts,) the team would be largely in the same place but with much less roster bloat. they would be well positioned to take advantage of the roster chaos that the pandemic has provided.
- RealityChecker

In a perfect world FA would have allowed a full rebuild after 2014. We all know this was not the case and any other GM would have been handcuffed into trying to retool on the fly.

I though he was okay. Sometimes good sometimes less so.


I think the three D I would protect next year for the E draft would not have his name as one.
- VANTEL

Agreed he would not be one of them, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an upgrade on what we had the previous couple years.

At the end of the day having someone as inept as Jim Benning running the show in his early years established what a full blown rebuild would have done, picking at the top of the draft, so at the end of the day the rebuild folks got partially what we wanted. However, he pissed away a lot of draft picks for quick fixes so we’ll never know if they would’ve worked out or not.

A few things I currently believe; Aquilini is a better more knowledgeable owner than he was 8-10 years ago, Jim Benning is a better more knowledgeable GM than he was 6 years ago.....Travis Green is still a mediocre coach though
- Pacificgem

I remember back in 2010 there was a poster who told you guys that building around the Sedins was a huge mistake. He said it would affect their drafting and cap space for years and years. He advised also against signing Loui Eriksson and not try to extend the Twins careers.

Imagine all the high draft picks and top prospects the team could have had. Can you imagine a team without Loui Ericksson and the picks and prospects the team could have had?



Pretty much the same people now complaining about draft picks and cap space that refuse to listen to that poster

In a perfect world FA would have allowed a full rebuild after 2014. We all know this was not the case and any other GM would have been handcuffed into trying to retool on the fly.
- Retinalz

True, and that being the case maybe we’re better off it was J8m Benning because another more competent guy might not have gotten us those bottom seven finishes that ultimately landed us Pettersson & Hughes.

In a perfect world FA would have allowed a full rebuild after 2014. We all know this was not the case and any other GM would have been handcuffed into trying to retool on the fly.
- Retinalz

This is accurate. FA wanted to retool. You’re job as a GM is to do what your boss says but try to pitch the best direction. FA wanted more playoffs while the old core was around.

In a perfect world FA would have allowed a full rebuild after 2014. We all know this was not the case and any other GM would have been handcuffed into trying to retool on the fly.
- Retinalz

I remember back in 2010 there was a poster who told you guys that building around the Sedins was a huge mistake. He said it would affect their drafting and cap space for years and years. He advised also against signing Loui Eriksson and not try to extend the Twins careers.

Imagine all the high draft picks and top prospects the team could have had. Can you imagine a team without Loui Ericksson and the picks and prospects the team could have had?



Pretty much the same people now complaining about draft picks and cap space that refuse to listen to that poster
- VANTEL

But building around them has proven not to be a mistake, it produced the greatest Canucks teams ever assembled. They produced five years of exceptional hockey that we can all look back on with great memories, sure it didn’t produce a Cup but that’s the only reason you’re using hindsight to gloat....it produced a seven game Stanley Cup final, a Hart Trophy, two Art Ross Trophies, a Selke Trophy, two Presidents Cup and well as some great playoff hockey.

Trying to build around them in 2014/15 was clearly a mistake, building around them in 2010 was brilliant.

I remember back in 2010 there was a poster who told you guys that building around the Sedins was a huge mistake. He said it would affect their drafting and cap space for years and years. He advised also against signing Loui Eriksson and not try to extend the Twins careers.

Imagine all the high draft picks and top prospects the team could have had. Can you imagine a team without Loui Ericksson and the picks and prospects the team could have had?



Pretty much the same people now complaining about draft picks and cap space that refuse to listen to that poster
- VANTEL

Would we have gotten the same players without the mistakes? Seems like he’s drafted better than any other GM during the same time period regardless.

i agree.

i dislike benning as the gm.

in a perfect world, he would have been the assistant gm to a full rebuild-minded gm. the canucks with prospects, young players and cap space...

benning has built a nice core with some pieces that should transition to the roster in the next few seasons. had he accepted that the team would suck (and they did even with his best efforts,) the team would be largely in the same place but with much less roster bloat. they would be well positioned to take advantage of the roster chaos that the pandemic has provided.
- RealityChecker

Benning is powering through it, champ.

But building around them has proven not to be a mistake, it produced the greatest Canucks teams ever assembled. They produced five years of exceptional hockey that we can all look back on with great memories, sure it didn’t produce a Cup but that’s the only reason you’re using hindsight to gloat....it produced a seven game Stanley Cup final, a Hart Trophy, two Art Ross Trophies, a Selke Trophy, two Presidents Cup and well as some great playoff hockey.

It was hardly a mistake!!
- Pacificgem

Wrong.


I am not looking back to verify dates but I think they were extended 2010 and I said back then it was a huge mistake and would have a trickle effect with cap and drafting. I said we would get 2 good years out of them but the back end of the contracts we would be in trouble and we were.

I said it will stop us from drafting high back around the years of 13-15 because they would keep us in the middle of the pack.

So something we should have started in 2014 we got really started 4 years later . So here we are and it happened.

Wrong.


I am not looking back to verify dates but I think they were extended 2010 and I said back then it was a huge mistake and would have a trickle effect with cap and drafting. I said we would get 2 good years out of them but the back end of the contracts we would be in trouble and we were.

I said it will stop us from drafting high back around the years of 13-15 because they would keep us in the middle of the pack.

So something we should have started in 2014 we got really started 4 years later . So here we are and it happened.
- VANTEL

we were 60 minutes from winning a Cup a year later and we won two consecutive Presidents Trophies, but ya, it was a huge mistake LOL!!!!

I though he was okay. Sometimes good sometimes less so.


I think the three D I would protect next year for the E draft would not have his name as one.
- VANTEL

100%

Does his 10 team NTC play any role in him potentially being exposed during expansion?

we were 60 minutes from winning a Cup a year later and we won two consecutive Presidents Trophies, but ya, it was a huge mistake LOL!!!!
- Pacificgem

2011 -2012 I did say that you would get two good years from them.

I said the problems would come after those two years and they did.

The point you are missing is it was a choice of one or the other. You accept the two good years and face the consequences after or forget about having two good years and start planning for the future.



I have no problem that they accepted the two good years and are now facing the results but most people forget about that and are now complaining.

100%

Does his 10 team NTC play any role in him potentially being exposed during expansion?
- NorthNuck

I don't know . I do know his wife is from Seattle so I don't think he would be upset if he went.

In a perfect world FA would have allowed a full rebuild after 2014. We all know this was not the case and any other GM would have been handcuffed into trying to retool on the fly.
- Retinalz

can we also agree that Benning didn't see the need for a full rebuild and he was proven wrong as well?

as lefty pointed out, MG wanted a full rebuild with a restructuring of the scouting staff.

it seems that MG was more in agreement with a rebuild than Benning. Is this what "we all know?"