Wrong.


I am not looking back to verify dates but I think they were extended 2010 and I said back then it was a huge mistake and would have a trickle effect with cap and drafting. I said we would get 2 good years out of them but the back end of the contracts we would be in trouble and we were.

I said it will stop us from drafting high back around the years of 13-15 because they would keep us in the middle of the pack.

So something we should have started in 2014 we got really started 4 years later . So here we are and it happened.
- VANTEL

They signed extensions in 2009, a year before your account was created, and then again in 2013, which kicked in in 2014.

we were 60 minutes from winning a Cup a year later and we won two consecutive Presidents Trophies, but ya, it was a huge mistake LOL!!!!
- Pacificgem

No point trying to reason with someone who hated the Sedins as much as grumps did.

I remember back in 2010 there was a poster who told you guys that building around the Sedins was a huge mistake. He said it would affect their drafting and cap space for years and years. He advised also against signing Loui Eriksson and not try to extend the Twins careers.

Imagine all the high draft picks and top prospects the team could have had. Can you imagine a team without Loui Ericksson and the picks and prospects the team could have had?



Pretty much the same people now complaining about draft picks and cap space that refuse to listen to that poster
- VANTEL

why did that poster change his mind about rebuilding? seems that if he thought a rebuild was needed in 2010, that point of view should not have changed when benning came.

weird how that poster defends all the moves that would have caused his head to explode under different management.

seems like that poster changes "the narrative" to suit his argument. maybe that's why no one listens to him?

They signed extensions in 2009, a year before your account was created, and then again in 2013.
- NorthNuck

He's still right, so shut up.

He's still right, so shut up.
- Marwood

Just laying out facts

I don't know . I do know his wife is from Seattle so I don't think he would be upset if he went.
- VANTEL

In an ideal world JB acquires a young top 4 Dman this offseason and Myers winds up in Seattle next year for sure.

They signed extensions in 2009, a year before your account was created, and then again in 2013, which kicked in in 2014.
- NorthNuck

I had a different account in 2007. I use to get banned so many times

can we also agree that Benning didn't see the need for a full rebuild and he was proven wrong as well?

as lefty pointed out, MG wanted a full rebuild with a restructuring of the scouting staff.

it seems that MG was more in agreement with a rebuild than Benning. Is this what "we all know?"
- RealityChecker

With his draft record, does anyone think MG could have rebuilt us? He was burning bridges around the league, and had a piss poor draft record. Imagine if Benning came in with the a-ok to rebuild instead of retool? I bet we would see a much better team today. Some people will point out where Gillis drafted from, but Boeser was 23 OA(around where Gillis drafted most years). Benning also has a lot more talent outside the first round than MG has in the first round, and later rounds combined.
Sure there may have potentially been a better GM for the job, but who was available in 2014 that we could've had that has done a better job to date?

2011 -2012 I did say that you would get two good years from them.

I said the problems would come after those two years and they did.

The point you are missing is it was a choice of one or the other. You accept the two good years and face the consequences after or forget about having two good years and start planning for the future.



I have no problem that they accepted the two good years and are now facing the results but most people forget about that and are now complaining.
- VANTEL

I don’t think you’re remembering dates correctly, it’s just another example of you poopting all over the people who’ve served this franchise before the current regime. I’m sure when Benning is fired you’ll go from sucking his cock to blaming him for everything too.

The Sedins were signed to five year deals in 2009 through to 2014, they were re-signed November 1st 2013 for the 2014/15 NHL season. In 2014 they probably shouldn’t have been re-signed because they were already 32 turning 33 years old for the next season.

I don’t know how you don’t re-sign them in 2009 as you initially stated, they were just about to hit their prime and they produced five exceptional years of hockey.

why did that poster change his mind about rebuilding? seems that if he thought a rebuild was needed in 2010, that point of view should not have changed when benning came.

weird how that poster defends all the moves that would have caused his head to explode under different management.

seems like that poster changes "the narrative" to suit his argument. maybe that's why no one listens to him?
- RealityChecker

We get it

RC ASL Marwood Bloated Lefty hate Benning

Vantel slurps Benning

I had a different account in 2007. I use to get banned so many times

- VANTEL

With his draft record, does anyone think MG could have rebuilt us? He was burning bridges around the league, and had a piss poor draft record. Imagine if Benning came in with the a-ok to rebuild instead of retool? I bet we would see a much better team today. Some people will point out where Gillis drafted from, but Boeser was 23 OA(around where Gillis drafted most years). Benning also has a lot more talent outside the first round than MG has in the first round, and later rounds combined.
Sure there may have potentially been a better GM for the job, but who was available in 2014 that we could've had that has done a better job to date?
- Retinalz

In theory what you say is undeniable, but, people get better at their jobs, had Gillis been given more time, like Benning has, he might have turn things around. We’ll never know.

With his draft record, does anyone think MG could have rebuilt us? He was burning bridges around the league, and had a piss poor draft record. Imagine if Benning came in with the a-ok to rebuild instead of retool? I bet we would see a much better team today. Some people will point out where Gillis drafted from, but Boeser was 23 OA(around where Gillis drafted most years). Benning also has a lot more talent outside the first round than MG has in the first round, and later rounds combined.
Sure there may have potentially been a better GM for the job, but who was available in 2014 that we could've had that has done a better job to date?
- Retinalz

you can say that MG was a sh!tty GM but at least he saw the need for a rebuild. Benning did not.

in the course of meetings with TL and FA, i'm sure that benning would have been asked about his thoughts on the team and what he would do PRIOR to getting the job. it would be discussed how the team would get from where they were to where they wanted to be (cup.)

so either: 1) JB said the team needed a rebuild and was talked out of it; or 2) he was on-board with a re-tool on the fly.

if you're going to answer that "JB said what he said and went along with what FA wanted to get the job," then you're actually INSULTING JB MUCH MORE THAN ANY OF US JB HATERS. basically you're saying that JB is a pu$$y who doesnt' have the conviction of his beliefs and will do anything to stay employed. further, you're saying that he didn't have the confidence that he would get a gm's job other than here. finally, you're saying that he doesn't mind doing what he thinks is wrong and doesn't care about his professional reputation.

tldr: stop trying to lay everything on FA

I don’t think you’re remembering dates correctly, it’s just another example of you poopting all over the people who’ve served this franchise before the current regime. I’m sure when Benning is fired you’ll go from sucking his cock to blaming him for everything too.

The Sedins were signed to five year deals in 2009 through to 2014, they were re-signed November 1st 2013 for the 2014/15 NHL season. In 2014 they probably shouldn’t have been re-signed because they were already 33 years old.

I don’t know how you don’t re-sign them in 2009/10 as you initially stated, they were just about to hit their prime and they produced five exceptional years of hockey.
- Pacificgem

You're right I didn't research the dates (As I originally posted) and I do have them mixed. I do remember when Gillis came here he said he would bring a new culture and change the team. I loved that guy right until he hopped on a plane to Sweden to resign them. I believe back then I was still Vantel even though my HB date may say different, not important. I hated the signing back then and I hated the extension even more .

What can I say I was never a fan and am now laughing at everyone whining about drafting and rebuilds and cap

We get it

RC ASL Marwood Bloated hate Benning

Vantel slurps Benning
- VANTEL

the first step is admitting it. so we're good, now.

You're right I didn't research the dates (As I originally posted) and I do have them mixed. I do remember when Gillis came here he said he would bring a new culture and change the team. I loved that guy right until he hopped on a plane to Sweden to resign them. I believe back then I was still Vantel even though my HB date may say different, not important. I hated the signing back then and I hated the extension even more .

What can I say I was never a fan and am now laughing at everyone whining about drafting and rebuilds and cap

- VANTEL

We’re trending up because we lost so much with Jim Benning at the ships helm, something that seems to escape you. Regardless, we are trending up, let’s hope that continues.

the first step is admitting it. so we're good, now.
- RealityChecker

I am here to help

You're right I didn't research the dates (As I originally posted) and I do have them mixed. I do remember when Gillis came here he said he would bring a new culture and change the team. I loved that guy right until he hopped on a plane to Sweden to resign them. I believe back then I was still Vantel even though my HB date may say different, not important. I hated the signing back then and I hated the extension even more .

What can I say I was never a fan and am now laughing at everyone whining about drafting and rebuilds and cap

- VANTEL

but what about all the fun and entertainment? you've had such a good time this summer when the team finished 6th. how about all that fun you must have had when the team was winning president's cups? how about actually making game 7 of the scf? seems like your attitude was a little different 2 pages ago.

weird how your attitude and narrative changes.

We’re trending up because we lost so much with Jim Benning at the ships helm, something that seems to escape you. Regardless, we are trending up, let’s hope that continues.
- Pacificgem

I seen the ship sinking after the one win in the 2012 playoffs . I tried to educate you boys that was even more of a Titanic.


When I complained about the Canucks they were trending down but you guys are complaining as they trend up.

Some ships are just meant to sink

but what about all the fun and entertainment? you've had such a good time this summer when the team finished 6th. how about all that fun you must have had when the team was winning president's cups? how about actually making game 7 of the scf? seems like your attitude was a little different 2 pages ago. weird.
- RealityChecker

It’s funny all the winning and high scoring teams were deplorable to watch under Gillis and the Sedins, so it seems, for Vantel, but the high scoring defensively deficient teams under Benning are so great to watch....seems to be something fishy with his stories

We’re trending up because we lost so much with Jim Benning at the ships helm, something that seems to escape you. Regardless, we are trending up, let’s hope that continues.
- Pacificgem

remember the good ole days of HB;
- tanking is dishonourable and the kids will never learn playing on a losing team so that's why you need to overpay bottom 6 plugs.

- what do you mean the team's still losing? ooooh, it's a stealth tank!

- other teams drafting is lucky! jb's drafting is pure genius. he relies on no one!

I seen the ship sinking after the one win in the 2012 playoffs . I tried to educate you boys that was even more of a Titanic.


When I complained about the Canucks they were trending down but you guys are complaining as they trend up.

Some ships are just meant to sink


- VANTEL

It was the 2013 playoffs that were the indicator, not 2012. When Los Angeles rolled over the best team in the regular season they did so because of the hottest goaltending on the planet (who won the Conn Smythe that year) and they also dispatched every team in record fashion. They almost didn’t lose a game the entire playoffs, a historic run.

It’s funny all the winning and high scoring teams were deplorable to watch under Gillis and the Sedins, so it seems, for Vantel, but the high scoring defensively deficient teams under Benning are so great to watch....seems to be something fishy with his stories
- Pacificgem

It was the 2013 playoffs that were the indicator, not 2012. When Los Angeles rolled over the best team in the regular season they did so because of the hottest goaltending on the planet (who won the Conn Smythe that year) and they also dispatched every team in record fashion. They almost didn’t lose a game the entire playoffs, a historic run.
- Pacificgem

(frank) I hated that LA team. Still do.

but what about all the fun and entertainment? you've had such a good time this summer when the team finished 6th. how about all that fun you must have had when the team was winning president's cups? how about actually making game 7 of the scf? seems like your attitude was a little different 2 pages ago.

weird how your attitude and narrative changes.
- RealityChecker

Ah yes Game 7