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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:10 PM ET
Well aside from the last one, he'd be right.
- Scabeh


How do you figure CC > Robertson
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
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Sep 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Sup binches?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
How do you figure CC > Robertson
- Aetherial


Well most reports I've read have/had Caufield as a better prospect during the year. Despite Robertston being signed and likely being in the NHL next season (while Caufield will remain in the NCAA for another year), I wouldn't trade Caufield 1 for 1 for Robertson.

They are both young, skilled player, but I think Caufield has the best chance of being a star in the NHL with his goal scoring abilities being off the charts.

But it's not like I know how the future will turn out.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
It'll depend on the # of years.

Chabot 8 x 8
or
Provorov 5 x 6.75
or
McAvoy/Werenski 3 x 5'ish

Lightning are short on Cap space so I could see them needing/wanting to go short term unless they're prepared to knock a lot of veterans off the books.

- The Law


Sergachev is a prime candidate for an offer sheet. Bergevin can ask forgiveness for trading him for a steaming pantload, and sign him
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
Sergachev is a prime candidate for an offer sheet. Bergevin can ask forgiveness for trading him for a steaming pantload, and sign him
- winsix


Habs offersheeting Sergachev would be glorious.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
Well most reports I've read have/had Caufield as a better prospect during the year. Despite Robertston being signed and likely being in the NHL next season (while Caufield will remain in the NCAA for another year), I wouldn't trade Caufield 1 for 1 for Robertson.

They are both young, skilled player, but I think Caufield has the best chance of being a star in the NHL with his goal scoring abilities being off the charts.

But it's not like I know how the future will turn out.

- Scabeh


Given what Robertson did this year, I have no idea how that conclusion makes sense, even if you believe NCAA > Juniors

yeah, maybe look at what Robertson did this year compared to some all time greats in Juniors.

I know there is no guarantee that that carries into the NHL, but I don't see any justification for CC > Robertson at this point.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
clearly Ilhan Omar was helping with the Hedman votes
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
Nylander + Liljegren + 15th overall to Wpg por Laine.

Laine is a different kind of floater, and is a likeable guy.
He'd become a fan's favorite soon in Toronto

- MaximusAurelius


(frank) that noise
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
Well most reports I've read have/had Caufield as a better prospect during the year. Despite Robertston being signed and likely being in the NHL next season (while Caufield will remain in the NCAA for another year), I wouldn't trade Caufield 1 for 1 for Robertson.

They are both young, skilled player, but I think Caufield has the best chance of being a star in the NHL with his goal scoring abilities being off the charts.

But it's not like I know how the future will turn out.

- Scabeh


They are both skilled goal scorers, Robertson was the one with the better year in 2019-20 though - 55 goals in 46 games for the Petes, while Caulfield had 19 goals in 36 games for the University of Wisconsin. Maybe the prospect reports you read were written by McCagg and approved by Komi-sore-ass
senstroll
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Sep 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
clearly Ilhan Omar was helping with the Hedman votes
- drexel


sent in her $750 bribe
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Given what Robertson did this year, I have no idea how that conclusion makes sense, even if you believe NCAA > Juniors

yeah, maybe look at what Robertson did this year compared to some all time greats in Juniors.

I know there is no guarantee that that carries into the NHL, but I don't see any justification for CC > Robertson at this point.

- Aetherial


It's very hard to compare NCAA and Juniors season. They are completely different leagues.

Robertson's numbers are impressive, no doubt about it. But Caufield is also in a league of his own after scoring 72 goals in 18-19 and being a finalist for rookie of the year in the NCAA.

And again, it's very hard to compare as I haven't seen either player play all that much... so I'm just following the reports from the "experts" while agreeing they both look like very promising young players.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
They are both skilled goal scorers, Robertson was the one with the better year in 2019-20 though - 55 goals in 46 games for the Petes, while Caulfield had 19 goals in 36 games for the University of Wisconsin. Maybe the prospect reports you read were written by McCagg and approved by Komi-sore-ass
- winsix


Reports came from prospect rankings, updated during the season by The Athletic.

Don't try and make this as clear cut as you'd like.

Good for you if you like Robertson better, I'd rather have CC still.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
Reports came from prospect rankings, updated during the season by The Athletic.

Don't try and make this as clear cut as you'd like.

Good for you if you like Robertson better, I'd rather have CC still.

- Scabeh


So Caulfield went from 72 to 19 goals?

Tumbleweed
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Sep 29 @ 2:30 PM ET
sent in her $750 bribe
- senstroll


lol.

overpay. going rate is $200 per ballot.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 2:32 PM ET
So Caulfield went from 72 to 19 goals?
- Aetherial


72 goals was with the under 18 us program. Not the NCAA.

72 goals in the NCAA would be god damn scary.


Edit: As a comparison, he scored more goals than Matthews did in the same program. And I'm not saying he'll be better than Matthews.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 29 @ 2:32 PM ET
Meh.

There are better options as #2 centre. I think he's an ok 2nd line centre but he also needs responsible wingers to play with him.

But he proved he can catch fire for a season, maybe he brings it back, who knows?

- Scabeh

I think he's a good 3C who has shown he is capable of putting up 2C numbers... but, as you said, can he bring it back to that level?

Hard to tell with Domi - he has a good set of skills but I'm just not convinced he's got what it takes to be a 60-70pts kinda guy.

He's one of those real question mark players.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:32 PM ET
72 goals was with the under 18 us program. Not the NCAA.

72 goals in the NCAA would be god damn scary.

- Scabeh




I was afraid that was what you actually meant and I was shocked that I didn't know that!
bixll
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Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 29 @ 2:34 PM ET
sent in her $750 bribe
- senstroll



Covers His taxes per year.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
72 goals was with the under 18 us program. Not the NCAA.

72 goals in the NCAA would be god damn scary.


Edit: As a comparison, he scored more goals than Matthews did in the same program. And I'm not saying he'll be better than Matthews.

- Scabeh


impressive

both of them are going to have to overcome the size question.

I am hoping Robertson turns into a Gallagher type.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
I called that a team would win the Cup if they actually played. Another mark in my book.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 29 @ 2:36 PM ET
Reports came from prospect rankings, updated during the season by The Athletic.

Don't try and make this as clear cut as you'd like.

Good for you if you like Robertson better, I'd rather have CC still.

- Scabeh


Gotta go to bat for the enemy here.

Caulfield, on the reports I've seen (TSN and THN and HockeyWriters), is always a little bit higher than Robertson.

Just like Sandin was most often ahead of Romanov (except on McCagg's).
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 29 @ 2:36 PM ET
Gotta go to bat for the enemy here.

Caulfield, on the reports I've seen (TSN and THN and HockeyWriters), is always a little bit higher than Robertson.

Just like Sandin was most often ahead of Romanov (except on McCagg's).

- The Law


That's what I've read as well. On both accounts.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
Reports came from prospect rankings, updated during the season by The Athletic.

Don't try and make this as clear cut as you'd like.

Good for you if you like Robertson better, I'd rather have CC still.

- Scabeh

Robertson certainly looked better during the WJC. Caufield is also somehow tinier than Nick.
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Sep 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
It's very hard to compare NCAA and Juniors season. They are completely different leagues.

Robertson's numbers are impressive, no doubt about it. But Caufield is also in a league of his own after scoring 72 goals in 18-19 and being a finalist for rookie of the year in the NCAA.

And again, it's very hard to compare as I haven't seen either player play all that much... so I'm just following the reports from the "experts" while agreeing they both look like very promising young players.

- Scabeh


Caufield had a great year in the big 10. playing on a last place team and leading them in goals and points as an 18 year old. Its a very impressive year. Its an older league than the O too. playing mostly against guys in their twenties, its a good league.

All this time off, I would think he's added some strength to that frame. He will be a player and I think it's way too early to say Robertson has passed him. Both were great picks and possibly big steals at their draft positions.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 29 @ 2:41 PM ET
That's what I've read as well. On both accounts.
- Scabeh


Yup, that being said CC drafted at 15 and NR at 53. Credit to KD for digging him up that late.
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