That was just so... unnecessary and random.

In game 5, (for those who missed this part), they showed a video of Perry's son dancing, which they played after he had scored. Then they showed the family bulldog, who was unimpressed in a way that only bulldogs are unimpressed.

Ok mildly funny Doc, but there is no need to screech and howl right into the microphone. I have not heard a scream like that since Howard Dean.
- PT21

lol

This isn't smart looking in any direction. lol
- Scoob

Lol yeah. Was a reaction to someone else about hindsight drafting. 50 percent of the time it works 100 percent of the time.

Lol yeah. Was a reaction to someone else about hindsight drafting. 50 percent of the time it works 100 percent of the time.
- Peter Richards

Draft Panther!

If anyone is interested in who I would take in this years draft, ask me again in a couple years when I know what players pan out

If anyone is interested in who I would take in this years draft, ask me again in a couple years when I know what players pan out
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Ill be sure to login at that time.

I get the disappointment in Patrick this far. Would be nice to play Monday Night Quarterback but that’s like playing “Back To The Future” with the almanac and betting (though you had a good week with betting, if you had the future almanac your betting would greatly improve)😆.

But I don’t agree with the belittling him by calling it a “fake migraine” Injury. Poor kid would love to be playing hockey earning a big fat contract. Now he is just fighting to play again.

Edit: that was to Swami

Happy to have Patrick. I’m not gonna talk about him as if he’s dead. Still hoping he could push Couturier and Hayes back on the center depth chart.
- SuperSchennBros

This

It's hard to believe in luck when there are so many successes. I would, most likely, attribute that to the very effective development system and not being afraid to shed pieces that do not seem to fit.
- missingmike

MJL’s point stands. If they knew what they were getting they would have take. Those players first.

Now with that said they have something working for them on finding a chance hit deep in drafts.

Patrick Laine. 22 years old, 6’5”, 30 to 40 goal scoring lock. I would give up anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier for him. If the Jets want Konecny somewhere in that deal, bye-bye Konecny.

Patrick Laine. 22 years old, 6’5”, 30 to 40 goal scoring lock. I would give up anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier for him. If the Jets want Konecny somewhere in that deal, bye-bye Konecny.
- SuperSchennBros

Not just that. Before this past season I believe he played pretty exclusively on the 2nd line with very mediocre players.

But I am sure he will want at least 8.5 million, probably 9+ AND a long term deal or will hold out after this season.

Patrick Laine. 22 years old, 6’5”, 30 to 40 goal scoring lock. I would give up anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier for him. If the Jets want Konecny somewhere in that deal, bye-bye Konecny.
- SuperSchennBros

Konecny Ghost and a first!

Git er dun Fletch!

MJL’s point stands. If they knew what they were getting they would have take. Those players first.

- peesinwind

No, no, dude. Thats muddled thinking.

Let's say you are going to your college advisor. You are choosing between a whole lot of subjects. You want to minor in one and major in the other. You seek the advisor's advice.

Your college advisor, after hearing you out, tells you to major in Economics and minor in English. Turns out, you find you want to be a journalist where the major is irrelevant but the minor really pays off in teaching you writing skills.

Would your college advisor have been best served by telling you to major in English? Sure. But should she be credited for at least putting English on your menu when she could have chosen neither and told you study, say Econ and Poli Sci? Yes, of course she should be credited.

Could it be luck? Now suppose this advisor has 6 advisees. It turns out, for all her advisees, her advice has placed something useful to their careers in her education recommendations. And there are many other advisors, who have not managed to provide the same benefit to their own advisees.

Then we have to look seriously at the possibility that it was not luck after all, but good advising.

Likewise, for Bolts Scouting:

Choosing those guys in the first round: great stuff, A+
Choosing those guys at all: A
Not choosing those guys (grade for all the teams who passed on them and regret it): C

A may not be as good as an A+, but it is still creditable*.

EDIT: *And because of the string of successes, unlikely to be luck.

Patrick Laine. 22 years old, 6’5”, 30 to 40 goal scoring lock. I would give up anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier for him. If the Jets want Konecny somewhere in that deal, bye-bye Konecny.
- SuperSchennBros

Konecny, their pick of Sanheim/Myers, this upcoming years first. With the understanding youre signing him to 6 years 8.5 per. Yay or nay?

Konecny, their pick of Sanheim/Myers, this upcoming years first. With the understanding youre signing him to 6 years 8.5 per. Yay or nay?
- stayinthefnnet

If that’s what it takes I say no. Reported selfish player. Just due to the teams I don’t think a trade could be worked out

Konecny, their pick of Sanheim/Myers, this upcoming years first. With the understanding youre signing him to 6 years 8.5 per. Yay or nay?
- stayinthefnnet

NAY!

No, no, dude. Thats muddled thinking.

Let's say you are going to your college advisor. You are choosing between a whole lot of subjects. You want to minor in one and major in the other. You seek the advisor's advice.

Your college advisor, after hearing you out, tells you to major in Economics and minor in English. Turns out, you find you want to be a journalist where the major is irrelevant but the minor really pays off in teaching you writing skills.

Would your college advisor have been best served by telling you to major in English? Sure. But should she be credited for at least putting English on your menu when she could have chosen neither and told you study, say Econ and Poli Sci? Yes, of course she should be credited.

Could it be luck? Now suppose this advisor has 6 advisees. It turns out, for all her advisees, her advice has placed something useful to their careers in her education recommendations. And there are many other advisors, who have not managed to provide the same benefit to their own advisees.

Then we have to look seriously at the possibility that it was not luck after all, but good advising.

Likewise, for Bolts Scouting:

Choosing those guys in the first round: great stuff, A+
Choosing those guys at all: A
Not choosing those guys (grade for all the teams who passed on them and regret it): C

A may not be as good as an A+, but it is still creditable*.

EDIT: *And because of the string of successes, unlikely to be luck.
- PT21

Yeah, but there really isn't much a chance that another student grabs up that major first and therefore you cant major in it any more.

Yeah, but there really isn't much a chance that another student grabs up that major first and therefore you cant major in it any more.
- MBFlyerfan

Sure. But that restriction, if it existed, would only serve to enhance what I was saying - (the advisor should be praised even more).

If that’s what it takes I say no. Reported selfish player. Just due to the teams I don’t think a trade could be worked out
- Peter Richards

given the flyers overall depth, i think I would pull the trigger there, if someone is truly of the mindset that laine is THAT sniper.

No, no, dude. Thats muddled thinking.

Let's say you are going to your college advisor. You are choosing between a whole lot of subjects. You want to minor in one and major in the other. You seek the advisor's advice.

Your college advisor, after hearing you out, tells you to major in Economics and minor in English. Turns out, you find you want to be a journalist where the major is irrelevant but the minor really pays off in teaching you writing skills.

Would your college advisor have been best served by telling you to major in English? Sure. But should she be credited for at least putting English on your menu when she could have chosen neither and told you study, say Econ and Poli Sci? Yes, of course she should be credited.

Could it be luck? Now suppose this advisor has 6 advisees. It turns out, for all her advisees, her advice has placed something useful to their careers in her education recommendations. And there are many other advisors, who have not managed to provide the same benefit to their own advisees.

Then we have to look seriously at the possibility that it was not luck after all, but good advising.

Likewise, for Bolts Scouting:

Choosing those guys in the first round: great stuff, A+
Choosing those guys at all: A
Not choosing those guys (grade for all the teams who passed on them and regret it): C

A may not be as good as an A+, but it is still creditable*.

EDIT: *And because of the string of successes, unlikely to be luck.
- PT21

PT- I like your enthusiasm to support your point. You get a B+. But there is luck hitting those late picks. Lindblom is an example. Just like there is bad luck sometimes on early picks.

I still agree with MJL on the fact it is mostly luck to hit on the late rounders.

PT- I like your enthusiasm to support your point. You get a B+. But there is luck hitting those late picks. Lindblom is an example. Just like there is bad luck sometimes on early picks.

I still agree with MJL on the fact it is mostly luck to hit on the late rounders.
- peesinwind

Well, you have to agree first that an alternative possibility exists, instead of just asserting that it is "mostly luck."

Then you have to look at what the evidence favors.

But if you just say it is luck, then that is impossible to disprove, because the probability of anything in life being luck will never be zero.

No, no, dude. Thats muddled thinking.

Let's say you are going to your college advisor. You are choosing between a whole lot of subjects. You want to minor in one and major in the other. You seek the advisor's advice.

Your college advisor, after hearing you out, tells you to major in Economics and minor in English. Turns out, you find you want to be a journalist where the major is irrelevant but the minor really pays off in teaching you writing skills.

Would your college advisor have been best served by telling you to major in English? Sure. But should she be credited for at least putting English on your menu when she could have chosen neither and told you study, say Econ and Poli Sci? Yes, of course she should be credited.

Could it be luck? Now suppose this advisor has 6 advisees. It turns out, for all her advisees, her advice has placed something useful to their careers in her education recommendations. And there are many other advisors, who have not managed to provide the same benefit to their own advisees.

Then we have to look seriously at the possibility that it was not luck after all, but good advising.

Likewise, for Bolts Scouting:

Choosing those guys in the first round: great stuff, A+
Choosing those guys at all: A
Not choosing those guys (grade for all the teams who passed on them and regret it): C

A may not be as good as an A+, but it is still creditable*.

EDIT: *And because of the string of successes, unlikely to be luck.
- PT21

Konecny, their pick of Sanheim/Myers, this upcoming years first. With the understanding youre signing him to 6 years 8.5 per. Yay or nay?
- stayinthefnnet

nay

- KINGKENZO

They say a picture is worth a thousand words (and as everyone knows, I know a thing or two about the latter) but in this case, I have no idea what the picture is saying.

Not just that. Before this past season I believe he played pretty exclusively on the 2nd line with very mediocre players.

But I am sure he will want at least 8.5 million, probably 9+ AND a long term deal or will hold out after this season.
- PT21

Hard pass on Laine. Not giving up the assets to acquire or devoting the cap assets necessary for him. Would have to be a top 6 two centerman or quality defenseman to give up what it would take. If it's a winger, it would have to be a much better player than Laine.

No, no, dude. Thats muddled thinking.

Let's say you are going to your college advisor. You are choosing between a whole lot of subjects. You want to minor in one and major in the other. You seek the advisor's advice.

Your college advisor, after hearing you out, tells you to major in Economics and minor in English. Turns out, you find you want to be a journalist where the major is irrelevant but the minor really pays off in teaching you writing skills.

Would your college advisor have been best served by telling you to major in English? Sure. But should she be credited for at least putting English on your menu when she could have chosen neither and told you study, say Econ and Poli Sci? Yes, of course she should be credited.

Could it be luck? Now suppose this advisor has 6 advisees. It turns out, for all her advisees, her advice has placed something useful to their careers in her education recommendations. And there are many other advisors, who have not managed to provide the same benefit to their own advisees.

Then we have to look seriously at the possibility that it was not luck after all, but good advising.

Likewise, for Bolts Scouting:

Choosing those guys in the first round: great stuff, A+
Choosing those guys at all: A
Not choosing those guys (grade for all the teams who passed on them and regret it): C

A may not be as good as an A+, but it is still creditable*.

EDIT: *And because of the string of successes, unlikely to be luck.
- PT21

This is just another in a long line of ridiculous and asinine analogies. It's not muddled thinking. Yea, they made the selection but they weren't making them thinking one is going to be a Hart trophy winner the other a 40 goal 90 point forward. They drafted them thinking they were flawed players and they took a chance. A chance that paid off. It's luck. You don't get an A for getting lucky.