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BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Sep 29 @ 10:41 PM ET
Not sure I agree. After Binnington's subpar playoffs, and with only 2 seasons of NHL experience and the possibility their best D-man moves to a new team . . . are you sure St. Louis doesn't want to lock down a more established backup now rather than later?
- Quillanrocks

Husso would have been the callup instead of Binnington but was injured. They have Parayko and Faulk if Petro leaves. Armstrong wants Husso at the NHL level. I saw the Allen trade and immediately thought that was the plan. I could be wrong. I don’t like the idea of Faulk cause he was extremely underwhelming this season but it is what it is. He is signed to a long lucrative contract
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Sep 29 @ 11:56 PM ET
Vancover might have a goalie tandem that doesn't include Markstrom. Demko has proven his worth at a much lower dollar value. It leaves more room to advance the cause in positions of weakness
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
Think I've already made this comment . . . Elliot is UFA. Do you want him back that bad that the proposition of a possible upgrade is out of the question? Are you confident he even returns?
- Quillanrocks



Ah my apologies. I must have missed it.

Elliot was more decent for us than the numbers would indicate. He was also apparently a good mentor for Hart. Sounds pretty generic, I know, but I would personally be surprised if there is a change. Not saying it won't happen. Just that I had heard nothing about it.

*goes back to stanching post-debate brain bleed*
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 30 @ 2:23 AM ET
My guesses

Craig Anderson: nope
Corey Crawford: Chicago
Devan Dubnyk: Pittsburgh
Marc-Andre Fleury: Washington
Thomas Greiss: Ottawa
Braden Holtby: Calgary
Jimmy Howard: nope
Carter Hutton: Buffalo
Robin Lehner: Vegas
Henrik Lundqvist: Vegas, Colorado, or retired
Darcy Kuemper: Carolina
Jacob Markstrom: Vancouver
Petr Mrazek: Edmonton
Matt Murray: Minnesota
James Reimer: Arizona
Cam Talbot: San Jose

Bonus round:
Mike Condon: Anaheim
Keith Kinkaid: Detroit
Anton Forsberg: Chicago
Louis Domingue: Winnipeg
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Sep 30 @ 2:56 AM ET
Vancover might have a goalie tandem that doesn't include Markstrom. Demko has proven his worth at a much lower dollar value. It leaves more room to advance the cause in positions of weakness
- Hardbalz


Quite the conundrum in Vancouver. Their cap issues coupled with the looming Seattle expansion draft and Vancouver has a lot of work to do, and a lot to consider. Hard to imagine they don't resign Markstrom given how solid he's been for them for 2-3 years now.

But I have some alternative speculation for you . . . While his stock is at it's highest -- thanks to 3 AMAZING playoff games -- what if Vancouver traded Demko to a team (say Ottawa) and got some young assets and/or draft picks back? . . . . Take that even further and package him in a trade that sees Ottawa take on a bad contract (Eriksson). The return for Demko would be less, of course, but if I'm Ottawa, I do that in a heartbeat. Perhaps they part with one of those second rounders and a decent prospect. (?) Hell, they need to get to the cap floor, somehow! They may as well do it while acquiring a promising young goalie in the process.

This bit of armchair GMing is, of course, all predicated on the notion that Markstrom will resign with Vancouver for a dollar figure and term that is agreeable to the club. (?) I think Demko is great, and will likely be a solid starter in the near future -- Vancouver may very well regret the move -- but I think it's a viable alternative to consider if it's out there. Someone just may overpay for three magical games, and hey, the Canucks still have DiPietro in the system.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 30 @ 3:36 AM ET
Quite the conundrum in Vancouver. Their cap issues coupled with the looming Seattle expansion draft and Vancouver has a lot of work to do, and a lot to consider. Hard to imagine they don't resign Markstrom given how solid he's been for them for 2-3 years now.

But I have some alternative speculation for you . . . While his stock is at it's highest -- thanks to 3 AMAZING playoff games -- what if Vancouver traded Demko to a team (say Ottawa) and got some young assets and/or draft picks back? . . . . Take that even further and package him in a trade that sees Ottawa take on a bad contract (Eriksson). The return for Demko would be less, of course, but if I'm Ottawa, I do that in a heartbeat. Perhaps they part with one of those second rounders and a decent prospect. (?) Hell, they need to get to the cap floor, somehow! They may as well do it while acquiring a promising young goalie in the process.

This bit of armchair GMing is, of course, all predicated on the notion that Markstrom will resign with Vancouver for a dollar figure and term that is agreeable to the club. (?) I think Demko is great, and will likely be a solid starter in the near future -- Vancouver may very well regret the move -- but I think it's a viable alternative to consider if it's out there. Someone just may overpay for three magical games, and hey, the Canucks still have DiPietro in the system.

- Quillanrocks


How dare you bring common sense and balanced arguments to the hockeybuzz boards.

wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
Quite the conundrum in Vancouver. Their cap issues coupled with the looming Seattle expansion draft and Vancouver has a lot of work to do, and a lot to consider. Hard to imagine they don't resign Markstrom given how solid he's been for them for 2-3 years now.

But I have some alternative speculation for you . . . While his stock is at it's highest -- thanks to 3 AMAZING playoff games -- what if Vancouver traded Demko to a team (say Ottawa) and got some young assets and/or draft picks back? . . . . Take that even further and package him in a trade that sees Ottawa take on a bad contract (Eriksson). The return for Demko would be less, of course, but if I'm Ottawa, I do that in a heartbeat. Perhaps they part with one of those second rounders and a decent prospect. (?) Hell, they need to get to the cap floor, somehow! They may as well do it while acquiring a promising young goalie in the process.

This bit of armchair GMing is, of course, all predicated on the notion that Markstrom will resign with Vancouver for a dollar figure and term that is agreeable to the club. (?) I think Demko is great, and will likely be a solid starter in the near future -- Vancouver may very well regret the move -- but I think it's a viable alternative to consider if it's out there. Someone just may overpay for three magical games, and hey, the Canucks still have DiPietro in the system.

- Quillanrocks


No one is completely falling head over heels for Demko yet besides Canucks fans. 25 regular season games showed more likely who he is this season. Yes he looked impressive in the post season, but small sample. Most GM's are smarter than Peter Chiarelli and wont pay a premium for that small of a sample.

The payment to take on Eriksson would be at least a second. And the fact they are doing Van a solid to not lose one of Markstrom or Demko in the draft requires a 2nd part.

Gotta remember next offseason the Kraken get to pull a player from the Canucks and the Canucks cannot protect both Markstrom and Demko. 1 with certain criteria must be exposed.

So Ott could ask for more than a goalie "prospect" and a dump for a 2nd. If i am Ott i am asking for at least 2 2nds + in this scenario. They're not the team in need afterall. 2 2nds, and a meh prospect or 4th. They're rebuilding and as many picks as possible is the right way rn. Probably takes a little retention too.
G - Man
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.13.2020

Sep 30 @ 8:46 AM ET
I predict...

Craig Anderson: retires
Corey Crawford: Chicago or retires
Devan Dubnyk: Detroit (Yzerman does for Minny what he did for NYR a la Staal)
Marc-Andre Fleury: Vegas (yup, said it)
Thomas Greiss: Edmonton (best platoon goalie in the league the last several years)
Braden Holtby: San Jose (crazy, but with their roster, there's nothing for them to do but keep plucking at the "we can still win the cup" thread. Only if he signs cheap and believes they can win, also!)
Jimmy Howard: Philladelphia or retires (pray to God not Edmonton!)
Carter Hutton: St. Louis
Robin Lehner: Colorado (Great chance to win AND get paid. . . As there is no official contract from Vegas yet, assume Fleury is holding it up & maybe it don't get done!)
Henrik Lundqvist: NYR (until I see he's bought out, the King retires a Ranger)
Darcy Kuemper: Arizona
Jacob Markstrom: Vancouver (I think they sign their MVP & they trade Demko at peak value for some decent assets and to unload a bad contract (Eriksson)--Ottawa's a fit; perhaps Detroit, again!)
Petr Mrazek: New Jersey (to be a 1B for Blackwood)
Matt Murray: Minnesota
James Reimer: Buffalo
Cam Talbot: Calgary
Khudobin: Carolina

- Quillanrocks



As a Sabres fan, it makes sense to send Hutton back to St. Louis (might have to eat some salary). I would not mind Reimer, I also think Krueger has ties to Griess and also Grubauer from his Europe team in the 2016 World Cup (hey they are both Germans). If the Av's get in a new goalie I think Grubauer is moved.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 30 @ 9:07 AM ET
Huh I guess there is no market for Korpisalo or Merzlinkis
Fuelbybeer
Location: ON
Joined: 07.15.2014

Sep 30 @ 9:31 AM ET
Lundquist retires or joins his brother in the SEL.

Considering Ott has 3485678394276 goalies in the system they do not need another one! However considering how cheap/not too smart management could be they will sign Howard for a year. Yet with Booby Ryan being waived and the need to get to the cap floor, they will overpay for someone
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 30 @ 9:50 AM ET
Huh I guess there is no market for Korpisalo or Merzlinkis
- Alexzanki


By all accounts so far, neither is available. Many teams would love them, but it has been reported the Jackets plan on starting next year with that pair. Probably shop one at deadline for best possible return seeing as how they can only protect 1.
tesau315
New Jersey Devils
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.01.2017

Sep 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
Craig Anderson: Retires
Corey Crawford: Blackhawks
Devan Dubnyk: Wild
Marc-Andre Fleury: Penguins
Thomas Greiss: Flames
Braden Holtby: Oilers
Jimmy Howard: Free Agency
Carter Hutton: Blues
Robin Lehner: Hurricanes
Henrik Lundqvist: Devils
Darcy Kuemper: Coyotes
Jacob Markstrom: Canucks
Petr Mrazek: Sharks
Matt Murray: Sabres
James Reimer: Red Wings
Cam Talbot: Free Agency
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 30 @ 10:53 AM ET
Huh I guess there is no market for Korpisalo or Merzlinkis
- Alexzanki


It's kind of a loaded goalie market right now. Not a great time to be making a trade.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
Why are so many people saying Vancouver and Columbus have to move a goalie due to the expansion draft. Hmm, that's next off-season right? Thought so. Like Vancouver can re-sign Markstrom, keep Demko, and make a run next year with 2 solid goalies. Then in the summer, they can deal a goalie (likely Demko if Markstrom re-signs long-term). Who would want to acquire Demko right before an expansion draft? Well, lots of teams who have no goalies to protect. Take a random team like Detroit. They have Bernier now. Let's say they bring in Talbot or Greiss on a 1-year deal. So Bernier-Talbot. Guess what, next summer both are UFA. Detroit has no goalie to protect. So they deal some picks for Demko, who Vancouver is about to lose for nothing. And then Detroit protects Demko. Oilers could do the same - protect Demko and expose Koskinen. Maybe the Blues run with Binnington-Husso this year, and it doesn't work, and they opt to let Binnington walk and acquire Demko. Point is, these teams aren't pressured to deal a goalie right now, especially with so much supply. Sit on your tandem and wait a year. Fools.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sep 30 @ 11:16 AM ET
It's kind of a loaded goalie market right now. Not a great time to be making a trade.
- BINGO!

looking at the list which ones are really '' worth it'' , yes quantity is there but the quality it's either a cog goaltender, or one that had a great career but is on the backside of 30.
Sully19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
I predict...

Craig Anderson: Retires
Corey Crawford: Blackhawks
Devan Dubnyk: Flames
Marc-Andre Fleury: Leafs
Thomas Greiss: Sens
Braden Holtby: Islanders
Jimmy Howard: Wild
Carter Hutton: Sabres (Rochester)
Robin Lehner: Knights
Henrik Lundqvist: Sweden
Darcy Kuemper: Sabres
Jacob Markstrom: Canucks
Petr Mrazek: Hurricanes
Matt Murray: Oilers
James Reimer: Red Wings
Cam Talbot: Stars
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Sep 30 @ 12:17 PM ET
No one is completely falling head over heels for Demko yet besides Canucks fans. 25 regular season games showed more likely who he is this season. Yes he looked impressive in the post season, but small sample. Most GM's are smarter than Peter Chiarelli and wont pay a premium for that small of a sample.

The payment to take on Eriksson would be at least a second. And the fact they are doing Van a solid to not lose one of Markstrom or Demko in the draft requires a 2nd part.

Gotta remember next offseason the Kraken get to pull a player from the Canucks and the Canucks cannot protect both Markstrom and Demko. 1 with certain criteria must be exposed.

So Ott could ask for more than a goalie "prospect" and a dump for a 2nd. If i am Ott i am asking for at least 2 2nds + in this scenario. They're not the team in need afterall. 2 2nds, and a meh prospect or 4th. They're rebuilding and as many picks as possible is the right way rn. Probably takes a little retention too.

- wreckage


Love that you are from "Fire Holland, AB", btw! I wasn't a fan of his hiring or too fond of most his moves since arriving.

Anyway, yes . . . totally agree with much of what you said. I may have been overzealous thinking that Ottawa would part with too much to "help" the Canucks with their salary cap problems. But I do think Demko is a substantial price to pay to have Ottawa take a bad contract.

Ottawa needs to be careful, too. They need to make the cap floor this season and also have a certain number of requisite players under contract for the 2021/22 season to leave unprotected in the expansion draft. (Cap friendly has them with only 3 players under contract for next year) They will want some "sacrificial" players to leave unprotected in a year, also, and it's not like UFA's will be lining up to play there. They are in a great position to pilfer some decent players and prospects from other teams who need cap flexibility or simply to cut spending, but Ottawa still needs to ice a team!

But what is more my point than the details of any trade is that if Vancouver can resign Markstrom, as they have said they want to, then it's obvious that they would trade Demko at some point. I'm saying do it now while his stock couldn't be any higher; use it do attain some decent assets and/or shed some bad contracts (likely wouldn't be Eriksson, anyway, he has a partial NMC from what I hear). I figured with Ottawa's situation they would make prime target for this.
rickyd39
New York Islanders
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.31.2007

Oct 1 @ 7:27 AM ET
Why are the islanders on this list at all? Our goalies are Varlamov and Sorokin.
We do need an AHL goalie, but Anderson, Talbot, and Howard aren't going to sign up for that.

Plus the isles need to clear space. Signing a vet goalie would be the worst move Lou could make right now.

Were these pics based off spinning a wheel?

Because they didn't come as a result of any research into whether a team wants or could afford a washed up goalie.
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