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johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Oct 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
OEL>>>>>>Cernak and probably will for at least the next 5 years. I know people look at his aav and say no, but if we dump LE we can make the cap work that will allow us to also sign Hughes and EP next summer.
- Retinalz

if the canucks best window to win is 4-5 years and they think they can do that within the cap then go for it. it improves the defense and probably makes life easier for whoever is in net
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
This is the worst case scenerio in 5 years from now if we trade for OEL:

Cap Hit Calculations
SSAVINGS CAP HIT
2025-26 $3,500,000 $4,750,000
2026-27 $3,500,000 $4,750,000
2027-28 -$1,750,000 $1,750,000
2028-29 -$1,750,000 $1,750,000
TOTAL $7,000,000 $3,500,000 $13,000,000

This is if his play slips, and if there is still flat cap. Until then he is our best Dman and if not a very close second behind Hughes.
Pacificgem
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Cooley, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
Lots of OEL chatter out there.
- VanHockeyGuy

2021 1st, Juolevi & Stecher in play - I’m not sure how to feel, need time to process it
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
2021 1st Juolevi & Stecher in play - I’m not sure how to feel, need t8me to process it
- Pacificgem

If OEL costs 2021 1st, OJ, Stetcher(we likely toss in LE) then I am all for it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
if the canucks best window to win is 4-5 years and they think they can do that within the cap then go for it. it improves the defense and probably makes life easier for whoever is in net
- johnnykarate

Pacificgem
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Cooley, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
If OEL costs 2021 1st, OJ, Stetcher(we likely toss in LE) then I am all for it.
- Retinalz

Cant do it unless Eriksson goes, otherwise it’s a non-starter.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 1 @ 5:50 PM ET
Cant do it unless Eriksson goes, otherwise it’s a non-starter.
- Pacificgem


Big fat no to OEL from me.

Unless they retain 50% and take back LE.

People think we’re in cap hell now? Just (frank)ing stupid
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Big fat no to OEL from me.

Unless they retain 50% and take back LE.

People think we’re in cap hell now? Just (frank)ing stupid

- NewYorkNuck

Well it would fix our D. It would basically solidify a 4 year window for us to go for it. Clearly Loui has to go back. Loui, plus Juolevi, plus Stecher and a first. Maybe that’s enough. I’d want a bit of salary retained as well but may be wishful thinking
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
If OEL costs 2021 1st, OJ, Stetcher(we likely toss in LE) then I am all for it.
- Retinalz


AZ moving OEL is looking to cut cap too not just $$ so I don't think they will take LE. Sens are the only ones who would take him and doubt he would waive for them even if they were willing. Which is why MTA is the only way to get rid of him.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
Big fat no to OEL from me.

Unless they retain 50% and take back LE.

People think we’re in cap hell now? Just (frank)ing stupid

- NewYorkNuck

OEL will only eat up 2.25m of our current 14.26m cap space, leaving us with 12m. We no longer need to sign Tanev or another D and suddenly have space for Toffoli, a back up for Demko and then still be able to fill the rest of our roster. If he is not LTIRetired this season, Ferland will be by next, so there is an extra 3.5m for us as well.
OEL will not put us in Cap hell.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
AZ moving OEL is looking to cut cap too not just $$ so I don't think they will take LE. Sens are the only ones who would take him and doubt he would waive for them even if they were willing. Which is why MTA is the only way to get rid of him.
- NuckUp

johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Oct 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
This is the worst case scenerio in 5 years from now if we trade for OEL:

Cap Hit Calculations
SSAVINGS CAP HIT
2025-26 $3,500,000 $4,750,000
2026-27 $3,500,000 $4,750,000
2027-28 -$1,750,000 $1,750,000
2028-29 -$1,750,000 $1,750,000
TOTAL $7,000,000 $3,500,000 $13,000,000

This is if his play slips, and if there is still flat cap. Until then he is our best Dman and if not a very close second behind Hughes.

- Retinalz

its not a buyout proof contract thats for sure. flex that aquaman money
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
AZ moving OEL is looking to cut cap too not just $$ so I don't think they will take LE. Sens are the only ones who would take him and doubt he would waive for them even if they were willing. Which is why MTA is the only way to get rid of him.
- NuckUp



Cap Cut :

8.250 000 - 6 000 000 = 2.250 000
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Oct 1 @ 6:01 PM ET
AZ moving OEL is looking to cut cap too not just $$ so I don't think they will take LE. Sens are the only ones who would take him and doubt he would waive for them even if they were willing. Which is why MTA is the only way to get rid of him.
- NuckUp

send that hossa contract over. load up our ltir
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 1 @ 6:02 PM ET

- Marwood


I'm beginning to think MTA stands for Metro transit authority.

In other words, ride the bus.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:03 PM ET
send that hossa contract over. load up our ltir
- johnnykarate


Can't believe Chicago got away with that
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
OEL will only eat up 2.25m of our current 14.26m cap space, leaving us with 12m. We no longer need to sign Tanev or another D and suddenly have space for Toffoli, a back up for Demko and then still be able to fill the rest of our roster. If he is not LTIRetired this season, Ferland will be by next, so there is an extra 3.5m for us as well.
OEL will not put us in Cap hell.

- Retinalz


And when they have to give raises to Petey, and QH? Then BB and Horvat will be up, and then Podkolzin and Hog shortly after that. OEL’s 8.5 will be held through all those contracts.

If Arizona eats 3 mil of it, bringing it down to 5.5, then great.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 1 @ 6:05 PM ET
Cap Cut :

8.250 000 - 6 000 000 = 2.250 000

- VANTEL


They want more then that trying to re-haul the roster and losing draft picks for years they need lots of cap space for all the free agents cut lose by cap strapped teams.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:07 PM ET
And when they have to give raises to Petey, and QH? Then BB and Horvat will be up, and then Podkolzin and Hog shortly after that. OEL’s 8.5 will be held through all those contracts.

If Arizona eats 3 mil of it, bringing it down to 5.5, then great.

- NewYorkNuck


As of now Canucks only have one contract over three years long
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:10 PM ET
And when they have to give raises to Petey, and QH? Then BB and Horvat will be up, and then Podkolzin and Hog shortly after that. OEL’s 8.5 will be held through all those contracts.

If Arizona eats 3 mil of it, bringing it down to 5.5, then great.

- NewYorkNuck

Cap won't stay flat forever, We will be fine with Petey and Hughes, Boeser is two years away and we don't know what will happen with Cap. If it stays flat, free buy-outs may be possible.
It is stupid not to trade for a true #1 dman simply because you don't know what the cap will be like in 2-4 seasons. as an example: Podk comes in this season on a 2 year contract expiring when Boeser does. Podk out plays Boeser and can be bridged. We give Boesers money to Podk and trade Boeser for assets because he is still an RFA. Boeser problem is solved. We then run with Podk and Toffoli as our 1RW and 2RW.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:10 PM ET
They want more then that trying to re-haul the roster and losing draft picks for years they need lots of cap space for all the free agents cut lose by cap strapped teams.
- NuckUp


It is a risky contract I think they have seen what has been offered . They certainly can keep the contract if they are not happy with the offers.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 1 @ 6:11 PM ET
Cant do it unless Eriksson goes, otherwise it’s a non-starter.
- Pacificgem


If he goes, pull the trigger.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Oct 1 @ 6:11 PM ET
Arizona needs to take at least LE & Beagle to make this work long-term.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Arizona needs to take at least LE & Beagle to make this work long-term.
- pker2theend

Sutter and Baertchi, as well.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:14 PM ET
Big fat no to OEL from me.

Unless they retain 50% and take back LE.

People think we’re in cap hell now? Just (frank)ing stupid

- NewYorkNuck

What this guy said!
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