We can add Cholo in too
- Feds91Stammer

Not worth a new blog. It may shock everyone, but this just in. Howard will not be re signed.
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- Jeremy Laura[url] https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2020/10/detroit-red-wings-will-not-re-sign-jimmy-howard.html?fv-home=true&post-id=124907

DUDE!!! What are we going to do for good tenders now?!?!?!?!?!

G's gifs had me Navaging my nose with Red Bull just now. guys at work thought I was gagging.....THAT was straight-up high-larious!! "...THIS FRANKING BIG..."

DUDE!!! What are we going to do for good tenders now?!?!?!?!?!

G's gifs had me Navaging my nose with Red Bull just now. guys at work thought I was gagging.....THAT was straight-up high-larious!! "...THIS FRANKING BIG..."
- mcmastermike1968

Oh yeah, I have to assume G invented “NSFW”

Oh yeah, I have to assume G invented “NSFW”
- Jeremy Laura

Fun fact, Jimmy Howard was the last remaining Red Wing who actually played with Yzerman and remained continuously on the team. (They had 3 games in the lineup together in 2005-06).

Filppula also played one game with Yzerman, but obviously was not here continuously.

EDIT: Unless you count Zetterberg and Franzen I guess.

- gergeswillems

Faced more rubber than any other Detroit tender! (and Jenna)

Faced more rubber than any other Detroit tender! (and Jenna)
- HenryHockey

Jimmy Howard avoided more rubber than any other Detroit goaltender.

Jimmy Howard avoided more rubber than any other Detroit goaltender.
- gergeswillems

Like the kid in “Mighty Ducks”?

Jimmy Howard avoided more rubber than any other Detroit goaltender.
- gergeswillems

Nope! #1 in SAVES! 13,970!!!

Nope! #1 in Red Wings fan STROKES! 13,970!!!

- HenryHockey

Fixed

Like the kid in “Mighty Ducks”?
- Jeremy Laura

Jimmy could never stop a knuckle puck.

Columbus fielding offers on both goalies. Would you take one?

https://www.prohockeyrumo...and-elvis-merzlikins.html

Columbus fielding offers on both goalies. Would you take one?

https://www.prohockeyrumo...and-elvis-merzlikins.html
- Jeremy Laura

korpisalo, hand's down!!!Send Cholo & Svech, add in 3 or 4 of G's memes/gifs for good measure!!!

korpisalo, hand's down!!!Send Cholo & Svech, add in 3 or 4 of G's memes/gifs for good measure!!!

- mcmastermike1968

Stevie says he'll sign a UFA goalie. Unless he can trade players he doesn't want to Columbus then I don't expect him to trade with the Jackets. Both Korpisalo and Elvis had their good moments in the playoffs. But I don't know.

Stevie ain't nothing but a hound dog. Working all the time. Well I never liked Jimmy Howard and he ain't no goalie of mine.

Oh sorry. That was my inner voice talking.

Stevie says he'll sign a UFA goalie. Unless he can trade players he doesn't want to Columbus then I don't expect him to trade with the Jackets. Both Korpisalo and Elvis had their good moments in the playoffs. But I don't know.

Stevie ain't nothing but a hound dog. Working all the time. Well I never liked Jimmy Howard and he ain't no goalie of mine.

Oh sorry. That was my inner voice talking.


- gergeswillems

Agree, a decent goalie can be had by not giving up assets, just money and $3M in cap space. And only sign him to 2-3 yrs

Agree, a decent goalie can be had by not giving up assets, just money and $3M in cap space. And only sign him to 2-3 yrs
- HenryHockey

As Sven mentioned, Cam Talbot would be a decent option. Stevie may wait until the goalie merry go round stops and then sign whoever is left. Players want to know where they're playing. Being too patient can freeze a player out of a job. No goalie really WANTS to sign with Detroit. But at some point beggars can't be choosers.

As Sven mentioned, Cam Talbot would be a decent option. Stevie may wait until the goalie merry go round stops and then sign whoever is left. Players want to know where they're playing. Being too patient can freeze a player out of a job. No goalie really WANTS to sign with Detroit. But at some point beggars can't be choosers.
- gergeswillems

I wouldn’t say nobody, but if you’re looking to pad or boost your stats, maybe not the best fit

Columbus fielding offers on both goalies. Would you take one?

https://www.prohockeyrumo...and-elvis-merzlikins.html
- Jeremy Laura

Only goalies I would be interested in are maybe Demko or a lesser known name in Connor Ingram

https://www.tsn.ca/off-se...yk-and-f-donato-1.1533111

Looks like someone wants Dubnyk and Donato package

Here's a fun one, depending on how much stock you put into thebreports of Ottawa Ownership basically demanding Askarov at 5... how much does that in a sense help the Wings? If a team gets desperate and the Wings can move back, add a piece and some futures, it could be interesting...

Obviously can't move too far back as you want to stay in the Top 12 at worst, but more likely the Top 8 or 10. But what's worth it? If we got a 2nd tier prospect and a future 1st, and still ended up woth a Top 10 guy from this class, I'm all about it.

Honestly, I have no idea in mind of who that team coming up to 4 would be, just spit balling an idea of what would you need to get to move out of 4 if somone wants to beat the Sens to the punch on Askarov? A SIGNIFICANT haul for sure.

Here's a fun one, depending on how much stock you put into thebreports of Ottawa Ownership basically demanding Askarov at 5... how much does that in a sense help the Wings? If a team gets desperate and the Wings can move back, add a piece and some futures, it could be interesting...

Obviously can't move too far back as you want to stay in the Top 12 at worst, but more likely the Top 8 or 10. But what's worth it? If we got a 2nd tier prospect and a future 1st, and still ended up woth a Top 10 guy from this class, I'm all about it.

Honestly, I have no idea in mind of who that team coming up to 4 would be, just spit balling an idea of what would you need to get to move out of 4 if somone wants to beat the Sens to the punch on Askarov? A SIGNIFICANT haul for sure.
- Feury

I guess it sort of depends on who is available and who you like.

Personal opinion, if I’m the GM I’m not really interested in trading back because I am very high on Rossi, I am pretty sure he will be still available at 4 but after that it’s anybody’s guess. He’s third on my board (displacing Stutzle) and I think has a decent chance of ending up as the best player taken in the entire draft, although obviously it’s all speculation and I could be very very wrong.

That said if you look at a composite of different expert rankings it seems like there’s not a ton of separation between Rossi, Raymond, Perfetti, Drysdale, and arguably Holtz. Not saying I personally agree with that, necessarily, just that there seems to be no real consensus among the scouting services over what order to put those guys in. You can make a case for any of them going as high as 3 or 4. Then you’ve got Sanderson, Lundell, and Askarov, who have less consensus behind them but definitely have their supporters as well.

If Rossi’s off the board at 4, it means either Byfield or Stutzle fell. If it’s Byfield, I take him with the No. 4. If it’s Stutzle, I might explore trading back one to three spots, picking up an extra pick, and then picking whoever is left out of Stutzle, Raymond, or Perfetti.

I definitely don’t think you want to trade yourself out of the top 6 or 7 in this draft. Pretty much all those guys seem like potential top-3 pick material in a typical year, so you really don’t want to blow that opportunity.

Here's a fun one, depending on how much stock you put into thebreports of Ottawa Ownership basically demanding Askarov at 5... how much does that in a sense help the Wings? If a team gets desperate and the Wings can move back, add a piece and some futures, it could be interesting...

Obviously can't move too far back as you want to stay in the Top 12 at worst, but more likely the Top 8 or 10. But what's worth it? If we got a 2nd tier prospect and a future 1st, and still ended up woth a Top 10 guy from this class, I'm all about it.

Honestly, I have no idea in mind of who that team coming up to 4 would be, just spit balling an idea of what would you need to get to move out of 4 if somone wants to beat the Sens to the punch on Askarov? A SIGNIFICANT haul for sure.
- Feury

If NJ wants him and offers 7 & 18/20 sure but otherwise you take BPA at 4.

If NJ wants him and offers 7 & 18/20 sure but otherwise you take BPA at 4.
- Feds91Stammer

Can definitely see that as an option if NJ wants to have their pick of the litter.

Could Nashville be a pmayer too though? Not sure if they would do it, but would something like:

To Detroit:
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd

To Nashville:
4th Overall


Or even bigger?
To Detroit:
Kyle Turris
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd
2022 1st
2022 3rd

To Nashville:
4th Overall

Not sure Nashville would go for that though. But it clears cap space, and gets them in the running for a guy who could help sooner than later, whether that's Rossi, Drysdale or Askarov for them.

Detroit gets more bullets (including an extra 1st on the all important 22 draft), a Prospect who is close to ready and still get very likely Jarvis, Lundell, Quinn or Schneider at 11, possibly Holtz if he fell.

Not saying I WANT this, just spitballingnwhat makes Detroit better and sets up even more in the future.

Can definitely see that as an option if NJ wants to have their pick of the litter.

Could Nashville be a pmayer too though? Not sure if they would do it, but would something like:

To Detroit:
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd

To Nashville:
4th Overall


Or even bigger?
To Detroit:
Kyle Turris
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd
2022 1st
2022 3rd

To Nashville:
4th Overall

Not sure Nashville would go for that though. But it clears cap space, and gets them in the running for a guy who could help sooner than later, whether that's Rossi, Drysdale or Askarov for them.

Detroit gets more bullets (including an extra 1st on the all important 22 draft), a Prospect who is close to ready and still get very likely Jarvis, Lundell, Quinn or Schneider at 11, possibly Holtz if he fell.

Not saying I WANT this, just spitballingnwhat makes Detroit better and sets up even more in the future.
- Feury

I don’t see trading back past 7 or 8 being an acceptable option unless someone offers extreme value.

Can definitely see that as an option if NJ wants to have their pick of the litter.

Could Nashville be a pmayer too though? Not sure if they would do it, but would something like:

To Detroit:
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd

To Nashville:
4th Overall


Or even bigger?
To Detroit:
Kyle Turris
Eeli Tolvanen
11th Overall
2021 2nd
2022 1st
2022 3rd

To Nashville:
4th Overall

Not sure Nashville would go for that though. But it clears cap space, and gets them in the running for a guy who could help sooner than later, whether that's Rossi, Drysdale or Askarov for them.

Detroit gets more bullets (including an extra 1st on the all important 22 draft), a Prospect who is close to ready and still get very likely Jarvis, Lundell, Quinn or Schneider at 11, possibly Holtz if he fell.

Not saying I WANT this, just spitballingnwhat makes Detroit better and sets up even more in the future.
- Feury

Trading down from 4th to 11th is huge. I would not be happy with that at all even with all the extra picks.

I'm sympathetic to the idea that more picks = more bullets / "lottery tickets" = good, but I think that logic only holds if your starting point is somewhere around the middle of the first round, or maybe the edge of the top ten (or you're only dropping down a couple of spots and still think you can get the player you want).

I would much rather get one elite, perennial all-star level player than two or three "pretty good" ones, and I still feel (especially with this year's draft) that taking BPA at 4 is going to give you better odds to do that than the 11, next year's 15ish, and a couple of later rounders.