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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
Ranger fan



Here's a good laugh for you all

- GERBE!!!75PTS


That makes complete sense to me.

The deepest rosters win not the ones with the most high end talent.

Look at the Leafs and Oilers.

Sabres can’t even make the playoffs.

He didn’t say those package of players would acquire Jack in a trade, he said the value those players bring at the associated cap hit is more then what one player would provide.

I’ve been arguing a similar view points for years hence why I b*tched about Skinner getting all that money to provide less value then what Burakovsky, Donskoi, and Nichuskin would have provided for the same cap hit.
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
probably too much celery
- homiedclown

Never mind celery what about the hair products required in the dressing room. Can’t expect the king to relax his standards.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
That makes complete sense to me.

The deepest rosters win not the ones with the most high end talent.

Look at the Leafs and Oilers.

Sabres can’t even make the playoffs.

He didn’t say those package of players would acquire Jack in a trade, he said the value those players bring at the associated cap hit is more then what one player would provide.

I’ve been arguing a similar view points for years hence why I b*tched about Skinner getting all that money to provide less value then what Burakovsky, Donskoi, and Nichuskin would have provided for the same cap hit.

- Pegullaville


And that makes sense, to a degree. What it doesn't take into consideration is that there would be players to take the spots of those guys if traded. Don't get the Avs thing twisted Bura, Don, and Nich are role players that make up Skinners value. Where they make their money (winning games) is having McKinnon as the best, or second best player in the world making pennies of his worth, Maker being unbelievable making pennies of his worth, and Rantonan and Landeskog being paid appropriately. That's more important then the guys you listed above imo. Skinner needs to be that guy who's paid appropriately, so he needs to play better. That's where the large divide is.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
TSN: The Oilers are attempting to find a taker for Andreas Athanasiou


So if no one takes him they will probably drop him
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
TSN: The Oilers are attempting to find a taker for Andreas Athanasiou


So if no one takes him they will probably drop him

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Didn't this board almost self-detonate because we didn't acquire him? 😂😂😂
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
Didn't this board almost self-detonate because we didn't acquire him? 😂😂😂
- Powerslave


Yes.

Luckily i was not one of them.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
Didn't this board almost self-detonate because we didn't acquire him? 😂😂😂
- Powerslave


Traded for 2 seconds (I know there were other players, but this seems to be the main pieces of the trade) for 13 total games, and a goal and assist.. Wow, that's not great Bob.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yes.

Luckily i was not one of them.

- ImThatGuy


I wasn't 😁
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
Traded for 2 seconds (I know there were other players, but this seems to be the main pieces of the trade) for 13 total games, and a goal and assist.. Wow, that's not great Bob.
- SDSabre

Good old ennis took his job
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
Putting 300 on the jets tonight ...

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
Good old ennis took his job
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Toilet seat ruined that guys career.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
And that makes sense, to a degree. What it doesn't take into consideration is that there would be players to take the spots of those guys if traded. Don't get the Avs thing twisted Bura, Don, and Nich are role players that make up Skinners value. Where they make their money (winning games) is having McKinnon as the best, or second best player in the world making pennies of his worth, Maker being unbelievable making pennies of his worth, and Rantonan and Landeskog being paid appropriately. That's more important then the guys you listed above imo. Skinner needs to be that guy who's paid appropriately, so he needs to play better. That's where the large divide is.
- SDSabre


Good post.

If Skinner is going to be a guy whom only provides even strength goal scoring he better score a minimum of 35 goals.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
Putting 300 on the jets tonight ...
- GERBE!!!75PTS


You get the action as a coin flip? If so, that's a solid bet. Den is hurting bad.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:59 PM ET
Yes.

Luckily i was not one of them.

- ImThatGuy


Neither was I, but it seems this board self detonates on 80% of any players that might be available.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 1 @ 1:00 PM ET
Neither was I, but it seems this board self detonates on 80% of any player that might be available.
- GilPerreault11


Like a certain center from Vegas that was traded.

Name rhymes with Faula.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Like a certain center from Vegas that was traded.

Name rhymes with Faula.

- ImThatGuy

Erik Haula day is one of my favorite days
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Like a certain center from Vegas that was traded.

Name rhymes with Faula.

- ImThatGuy


Who.....
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:08 PM ET
Erik Haula day is one of my favorite days
- sbroads24


You guys had a weird obsession with him lol
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
You guys had a weird obsession with him lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I was never a big fan
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Putting 300 on the jets tonight ...
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I know you have more than enough money to throw around without a care in the world but why on Earth would anyone pick the Jets to win a game unless you win with the spread

SD sucks, even if he had good receivers

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
I know you have more than enough money to throw around without a care in the world but why on Earth would anyone pick the Jets to win a game unless you win with the spread

SD sucks, even if he had good receivers

- dmarsden2988


I have a very good feeling about tonight ...

I have noticed when coaches are the hot seat they win that one game to be safe
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
He's super old

His play at some point very soon will fall off

He's a bridge to Cozens, not any long term solution

It doesn't show Eichel any type of long term commitment to winning. It says, "Here we did something"

They need to make a really big move, or 2-3 pretty sunstantial ones

- sbroads24


You are unusually harsh here.

✔ Provided a 2C
✔ Short term solution, as everyone here agreed is what was needed
✔ Provides actual offense
✔ Highly respected leader, captain, cup winner
✔ A model for young players/centers
✔ Very cheap cap hit for what he provides on the ice
✔ Saved 1M(ish) in cap and salary and provided a position of need over a worse player in a position that can easily be filled
✔ Shows Eichel in one of many steps that they are serious about winning. Not filling that void with a short or long term solution and implying that Mittelstadt or Cozens was good enough, for a third season in a row, would be a sign of 'not being serious'
✔ Eric Staal
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Oct 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Putting 300 on the jets tonight ...
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Dad came though??
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 1 @ 1:22 PM ET
I have a very good feeling about tonight ...

I have noticed when coaches are the hot seat they win that one game to be safe

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Hes not on the hot seat, if you believe the Jets.

Also Adam Gase is a garbage coach.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 1 @ 1:23 PM ET
You are unusually harsh here.

✔ Provided a 2C
✔ Short term solution, as everyone here agreed is what was needed
✔ Provides actual offense
✔ Highly respected leader, captain, cup winner
✔ A model for young players/centers
✔ Very cheap cap hit for what he provides on the ice
✔ Saved 1M(ish) in cap and salary and provided a position of need over a worse player in a position that can easily be filled
✔ Eric Staal

- TheSabresTaco



While I like the name, there is no guarantee that Stall can still put up the numbers of a long season.

He's played a hell of a lot of hockey. father time eventually catches up. hopefully for Buffalo its not for another 2-3 years.
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