Hi Theo! Long time lurker, first time poster. My boys introduced me to hockey, and I'm hooked on it more than I care to admit. In your opinion, would Stan consider swapping picks to move up in the draft to select Askarov?
- Puck_Em

Thank you for your readership over the years! Great to see you write your first post.

To answer your question, in recent articles Bowman has talked about throwing out a lot of scenarios to either move up or down the 1st round. Mostly hypotheticals that lead nowhere but still thinking of options. So, yes, I wouldn't put it past Bowman to want to trade up see the Hawks can draft Askarov.

However, I would be cautious if he indeed plans to go that route. Don't just talk to the scouting staff but also talk to the staff in charge of prospect development or even player development on the current roster to make sure any assets given up isn't throwing away a gem for a draft prospect who could still flop as much as meet the hype.

Personally, I wouldn't trade up unless it's to get into the top 10 (plus see caveats above). Even then, not sure I would draft Askarov either if that's the case.

I ask you this, would you trade your first rounder for Vasilevskiiy? Even if it was in the top 2-10 range? If you would the answer is clear, Detroit could very well take the kid.
- joegreif17

Vasilevskiy was drafted in 2012. Played his first game in in the NHL in December 2014. Played 50 games in the NHL for the first time in 2016/17. Won the cup in 2020, 8 years after he was drafted.

I am ok drafting Askarov at 17 if he is still on the board. But I would not give up too much to move down to get him. I think he goes between 5 and 13 and to move down you would need to pay a steep price.

How about Stan puts together a package that can get Spencer Knight from FLA?

They're stuck with Bob, and unless he's going to be a $10M backup, there's no where for Knight to go with the Panthers.

The Isles have patiently waited for this future star to arrive. There is no chance he is traded until they see what they have. The guy is going to be a stud.
- joegreif17

Drafted in 2014.

Thank you for your readership over the years! Great to see you write your first post.

To answer your question, in recent articles Bowman has talked about throwing out a lot of scenarios to either move up or down the 1st round. Mostly hypotheticals that lead nowhere but still thinking of options. So, yes, I wouldn't put it past Bowman to want to trade up see the Hawks can draft Askarov.

However, I would be cautious if he indeed plans to go that route. Don't just talk to the scouting staff but also talk to the staff in charge of prospect development or even player development on the current roster to make sure any assets given up isn't throwing away a gem for a draft prospect who could still flop as much as meet the hype.

Personally, I wouldn't trade up unless it's to get into the top 10 (plus see caveats above). Even then, not sure I would draft Askarov either if that's the case.
- Theo Fox

A the hype is real the numbers don't lie .If you had a defenseman dominating the way Askarov has they would be taking him 1st overall ...

How about Stan puts together a package that can get Spencer Knight from FLA?

They're stuck with Bob, and unless he's going to be a $10M backup, there's no where for Knight to go with the Panthers.
- scottak

How good is knight does anyone know? Maybe beaudin and 2021 2nd just spitballing or saad to reunite with coach q for noel and knight maybe other assets on each team might need to be added but base of trade proposal.

Vasilevskiy was drafted in 2012. Played his first game in in the NHL in December 2014. Played 50 games in the NHL for the first time in 2016/17. Won the cup in 2020, 8 years after he was drafted.

I am ok drafting Askarov at 17 if he is still on the board. But I would not give up too much to move down to get him. I think he goes between 5 and 13 and to move down you would need to pay a steep price.
- -Doh-

I agree with everything noted and implied here. The overwhelming majority of starting goaltenders were 3rd, 4th, 5th round picks. As noted several times before, take the best player available

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?
- powerenforcer

Not at all

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?
- powerenforcer

Montoya retired not too long ago.

Anderson and Montoya are both Chicago boys (Park Ridge technically for Anderson) so that's an angle the Blackhawks organization could've pumped to the fanbase.

Montoya retired not too long ago.

Anderson and Montoya are both Chicago boys (Park Ridge technically for Anderson) so that's an angle the Blackhawks organization could've pumped to the fanbase.
- Theo Fox

Actually that sounds more like a McD angle. I did not know Montoya retired.....Never mind.

A the hype is real the numbers don't lie .If you had a defenseman dominating the way Askarov has they would be taking him 1st overall ...

- oldduffman

I looked up Crawford’s draft just as reference. Ironically Fleury went #1 overall that draft. Crawford was the second goalie chosen and then Jimmy Howard was the 3rd goalie selected. Then there was 7 rounds of goalies who are no names. Then in round 9 came Halak & Brian Elliot. I think this year might be similar with a few good 2nd tier guys but not sure if they make it to the 3rd round or if teams will start grasping earlier in the 2nd round in a deep draft of Forwards & Dmen.

Hi Theo! Long time lurker, first time poster. My boys introduced me to hockey, and I'm hooked on it more than I care to admit. In your opinion, would Stan consider swapping picks to move up in the draft to select Askarov?
- Puck_Em

it would be far too dear to attempt that.

And the thing is, there are so many teams that could possibly interested in him:

Ottawa @5
New Jersey @ 7 any position is possible right here.
Buffalo @8 not probable, but possible
Minnesota @ 9
Carolina @13
Edmonton @14
Toronto @ 15
so...the issue for the Hawks having conversations about moving up, they would need the pre-draft trade discussions, you plan ahead....
do you start at #10 with Winnipeg?
Make a plan with Florida before hand?
Florida @#12?

Those may seem like reasonable teams to contact but the matter still remains to trade out to #17 they clearly drop to the third tier.
So they have to want to trade out of a spot where they are guaranteed a PRIME PROSPECT...it would probably take more than the Hawks can reasonable offer...and while I think the kid is gonna a a stud, there iS no guarantee, where the skaters available at 10 & 12 are actually solid.
Just think what if ROSSI is there at ten?

so the Hawks imo, are ni gonna overpay to move up.

Who knows, maybe Askarov drops, like the hawk fans here who advocated no Russian, no guarantees on his arrival, etc.
But I have a feeling team have looked at enough tape to made their decisions and rumors have all the above at times interested and GOAL position is one of their higher long term needs.

I looked up Crawford’s draft just as reference. Ironically Fleury went #1 overall that draft. Crawford was the second goalie chosen and then Jimmy Howard was the 3rd goalie selected. Then there was 7 rounds of goalies who are no names. Then in round 9 came Halak & Brian Elliot. I think this year might be similar with a few good 2nd tier guys but not sure if they make it to the 3rd round or if teams will start grasping earlier in the 2nd round in a deep draft of Forwards & Dmen.
- DrewDawg

Interesting Crawford was great selection and a institution in Chicago for the last ten years and maybe more . He was what 6/ 7 years before he was ready . I think Askarov will be in the NHL in 1 or 2 years and he will be a standout goalie for the next ten or more years . I believe the odds of the HAWKS coming away with Askarov in this draft are slim to nill but one can dream . If no Askarov in the 1st round I hope the HAWKS select a couple in the preceding rounds and maybe pull out a Crow or two .

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?
- powerenforcer

I pull for local guys as much as anyone, but that would be a nightmare.

Montoya retired not too long ago.

Anderson and Montoya are both Chicago boys (Park Ridge technically for Anderson) so that's an angle the Blackhawks organization could've pumped to the fanbase.
- Theo Fox

I know the Montoya’s well. I don’t think Al played hockey last year. I think he’s staying retired. He’s got two little ones he’s got to teach to skate!

Would have loved to see Al as a Hawk at some point in his career, but that’s in the past.

it would be far too dear to attempt that.

And the thing is, there are so many teams that could possibly interested in him:

Ottawa @5
New Jersey @ 7 any position is possible right here.
Buffalo @8 not probable, but possible
Minnesota @ 9
Carolina @13
Edmonton @14
Toronto @ 15
so...the issue for the Hawks having conversations about moving up, they would need the pre-draft trade discussions, you plan ahead....
do you start at #10 with Winnipeg?
Make a plan with Florida before hand?
Florida @#12?

Those may seem like reasonable teams to contact but the matter still remains to trade out to #17 they clearly drop to the third tier.
So they have to want to trade out of a spot where they are guaranteed a PRIME PROSPECT...it would probably take more than the Hawks can reasonable offer...and while I think the kid is gonna a a stud, there iS no guarantee, where the skaters available at 10 & 12 are actually solid.
Just think what if ROSSI is there at ten?

so the Hawks imo, are ni gonna overpay to move up.

Who knows, maybe Askarov drops, like the hawk fans here who advocated no Russian, no guarantees on his arrival, etc.
But I have a feeling team have looked at enough tape to made their decisions and rumors have all the above at times interested and GOAL position is one of their higher long term needs.
- wiz1901

I've read the cheap-a$$ owner of the Sens wants to pick him at #5. Sens also have the #3 pick so I could see this happening.

I agree with Wiz. Hawks would be knee-capping themselves to move up just for a possibilty he'd still be there.

When does everyone think the season will start, or will the season be cancelled?

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?
- powerenforcer

Plus 2 hometown Chicago guys. But Montoya is done, and Anderson is a backup at this point in his career.

Montoya retired not too long ago.

Anderson and Montoya are both Chicago boys (Park Ridge technically for Anderson) so that's an angle the Blackhawks organization could've pumped to the fanbase.
- Theo Fox

Anderson is als9 linked to Barrington. His gear is in the trophy case at BHS.

I've read the cheap-a$$ owner of the Sens wants to pick him at #5. Sens also have the #3 pick so I could see this happening.

I agree with Wiz. Hawks would be knee-capping themselves to move up just for a possibilty he'd still be there.
- Rota's Rooter

I noticed that wiz updated his draftsite.com list Oct 1

“...when would it be ideal to draft a netminder with the team’s first pick?“

Never.










Ever.

How surprised would anyone be if the goaltending tandem next season is Craig Anderson and Al Montoya? 2 cheap contracts for a flat cap season?
- powerenforcer

I fully expect a rotation of Subban, Delia and Lankinen.

I fully expect a rotation of Subban, Delia and Lankinen.
- DarthKane

I would be fine with that too.

How about Stan puts together a package that can get Spencer Knight from FLA?

They're stuck with Bob, and unless he's going to be a $10M backup, there's no where for Knight to go with the Panthers.
- scottak

How about just Saad, if they plan to launch him?

and the kids signs BEFORE the deal happens...
IF for whatever reason, 14 teams pass on Askarov, Montreal will have teams asking to trade for their pick.
And StanBo will have to overpay Bergevin in a one slot switcheroo.

But I have no doubt the Blackhawks will not pass on him if he is there at slot #17.

Who knows anymore. I told ya', with this thick range of players at various levels of development, I would nt be surprised by who gets picked starting at #3.

There are so many different kids and I do mean different in upside, all ready in place attributes, some strong offensive shooters, you just dont know...teams think they can remediate many parts of players games, except they likeeee High end hockey heads, shooters, and even all round polished guys who may have upside in areas....it all depends upon what each team sees as more important for their roster long term...and THEY DO want to come out with a guy who plays so he helps th Cap.

I see guys up to mid 40's who are that guy.

Like I said I could change my draft boards of what team does what from pick three on, because what is left is gonna amount to three best players available up until slot 17...