It was so nice when you weren't around posting your dumb poop.
- GPHawksfan

Why so angry not getting any action Get use to it I am here to stay

What team has gone from a good starting goalie that aged out to another starter that takes over seamlessly?
- GPHawksfan

Tampa Bay did a good job . NYR seem to be doing it now . Vancouver could be doing soon .

Why so angry not getting any action Get use to it I am here to stay
- oldduffman

Hey Duffy, I was on hiatus too. Glad to have the optimism back. How've you been?

Hey Duffy, I was on hiatus too. Glad to have the optimism back. How've you been?
- I Am The Breadman

Hey Breadman been doing good life been a beach the last month or so .Weather changing feeling like hockey again . Hope all is well with you kid .Can't wait for the draft .

Did say what game will be airing at noon on cbs?
- Scott1977

Not sure what the early CBS game will be.

Check out this site later to see what game will be on.

This site is also updated weekly to show what games will be aired around the country each week.

https://506sports.com/

Corrected typo in link

Does anybody know if this Jarvis kid is related to Doug Jarvis?
- Angotti

No

No
- wiz1901

Thanks

Not sure what the early CBS game will be.

Check out this site later to see what game will be on.

This site is also updated weekly to show what games will be aired around the country each week.

https://506sports.com/

Corrected typo in link
- boilermaker100

Hey thanks for posting this - my day was planned around taping Red Zone to see the Bears EARLY...and then after getting a choir outs the house done.
I didn't realize the gate was moved due to cookies the mid day game and the bears were moved into that TV slot...now I make my wife the spinach omelet after church, go out the door, and be back with time to spare.

Back to the two big Canadian boy defenders, Schneider and Guhle, Braden & Kaiden.

A lot of fans of teams that are already destined to be possible early selectors in 2021 are strategizing that their teams GMs should pass on this years defenders and wait to get one next year in the form of Owen Power, Simon Edvinsson, Brandt Clarke, Hamiton's already over Artom Grushnikov, Carson Lambos, Corson Ceulmans and the USANDT giant Roman Schmidt.

Well and fine that "that is the strength of that draft."
The one you grab this year for all intents plays before this kids except in maybe a rare case of two.
THE next ones, the "others."

Braden & Kaiden play the body. Braden & Kaiden know their role and their zone. Both have seen international play and weren't out of place. They weren't dominant on the score sheet in international play. But just like our newbie Blackhawks in the playoff, they got valuable exposure.

Both have a hunger to make it. Eager to improve.

So like every year, any one of the teams selecting in the top 17 are gonna be saying, "Sure I see these forwards, and they look like they have strong upside, but can get a big fluid defender with edge to develop and fit in my top four?

And they will just take them.
If you click on one of NHL team names on DraftSite, you see the organization needs of each team, and if they dont have a strong offense man coming in the system, I note it. I don't necessarily note who needs a strong defensive presence. Mostly because a lot of the bigger attacking defenseman DO add the defensive side to their game.
In my opinion The Maple Leafs dont have another big solid defensive minded defender in the system, just the new age ones. New Jersey likewise could stand to develop a big stay and home guy too. Carolina also has a future need there. Bill Zito in Florida has got to see that too. Nashville after a year or two of the media hold their defense's nut as one of the best are now in need and still miss that guy they traded to Montreal and the other one they let be a UFA who signed with Minnesota.

I am not going to say the Jets will get desperate, but I bet if one of the top two drops they will call his name.

So there is going to be discussion about Guhle, who is closer and Schneider who has had trouble making his transitions via his carries flourish into successful zone entrances by his teammates. And at this point, Braden Schneider hasn't worked out the best option part of his puck possessions in the attack zone, so he has to read and build better vision to be in tune with the on-ice give and takes that occur instantaneously. Far from a finished product, but there is plenty there to work with. He can one hand push the defender out of the play, cross body check him, or physically rock him to make a play and does. There is a calm reserve that tempers his aggression, in the same way the in his prime Brent Seabrook took care of business. Stays inside the rules and handles his business.

Kaiden handles the puck better in the middle and attack zones, but doesn't have the defensive zone sense that Braden does.
Schnieder's physicality and aggression is of the vintage Seabrook type, where it isn't as overt when he exerts it. Kaiden besides the brilliant footwork to time his thunderous hits, he like to do as much as he can get away with in his harassment and intimidation of opponents, looking for them to go nuts, and be the one that get whistled by the zebras. It isn't all that under the radar and it results in penalties to him.

So that is what you get from them.

So you get have to balance which is a long term answer and fits what your team needs, or pass on both.

Back to the two big Canadian boy defenders, Schneider and Guhle, Braden & Kaiden.

A lot of fans of teams that are already destined to be possible early selectors in 2021 are strategizing that their teams GMs should pass on this years defenders and wait to get one next year in the form of Owen Power, Simon Edvinsson, Brandt Clarke, Hamiton's already over Artom Grushnikov, Carson Lambos, Corson Ceulmans and the USANDT giant Roman Schmidt.

Well and fine that "that is the strength of that draft."
The one you grab this year for all intents plays before this kids except in maybe a rare case of two.
THE next ones, the "others."

Braden & Kaiden play the body. Braden & Kaiden know their role and their zone. Both have seen international play and weren't out of place. They weren't dominant on the score sheet in international play. But just like our newbie Blackhawks in the playoff, they got valuable exposure.

Both have a hunger to make it. Eager to improve.

So like every year, any one of the teams selecting in the top 17 are gonna be saying, "Sure I see these forwards, and they look like they have strong upside, but can get a big fluid defender with edge to develop and fit in my top four?

And they will just take them.
If you click on one of NHL team names on DraftSite, you see the organization needs of each team, and if they dont have a strong offense man coming in the system, I note it. I don't necessarily note who needs a strong defensive presence. Mostly because a lot of the bigger attacking defenseman DO add the defensive side to their game.
In my opinion The Maple Leafs dont have another big solid defensive minded defender in the system, just the new age ones. New Jersey likewise could stand to develop a big stay and home guy too. Carolina also has a future need there. Bill Zito in Florida has got to see that too. Nashville after a year or two of the media hold their defense's nut as one of the best are now in need and still miss that guy they traded to Montreal and the other one they let be a UFA who signed with Minnesota.

I am not going to say the Jets will get desperate, but I bet if one of the top two drops they will call his name.

So there is going to be discussion about Guhle, who is closer and Schneider who has had trouble making his transitions via his carries flourish into successful zone entrances by his teammates. And at this point, Braden Schneider hasn't worked out the best option part of his puck possessions in the attack zone, so he has to read and build better vision to be in tune with the on-ice give and takes that occur instantaneously. Far from a finished product, but there is plenty there to work with. He can one hand push the defender out of the play, cross body check him, or physically rock him to make a play and does. There is a calm reserve that tempers his aggression, in the same way the in his prime Brent Seabrook took care of business. Stays inside the rules and handles his business.

Kaiden handles the puck better in the middle and attack zones, but doesn't have the defensive zone sense that Braden does.
Schnieder's physicality and aggression is of the vintage Seabrook type, where it isn't as overt when he exerts it. Kaiden besides the brilliant footwork to time his thunderous hits, he like to do as much as he can get away with in his harassment and intimidation of opponents, looking for them to go nuts, and be the one that get whistled by the zebras. It isn't all that under the radar and it results in penalties to him.

So that is what you get from them.

So you get have to balance which is a long term answer and fits what your team needs, or pass on both.
- wiz1901

Wiz imo hawks need wingers goalies centers and defense in that order. If somehow hawks can get either mercer holloway or jarvis for wingers lappierre or bourque for centers daws or commeso or goaltending gulie or wallinder for defense that would a great draft for the hawks.

Wiz imo hawks need wingers goalies centers and defense in that order. If somehow hawks can get either mercer holloway or jarvis for wingers lappierre or bourque for centers daws or commeso or goaltending gulie or wallinder for defense that would a great draft for the hawks.
- Scott1977

Best available, always

Best available, always
- BetweenTheDots

Agree!!

I would prefer that scenario as well rather than give up assets for the rumored goalies on the market whether Kuemper, Raanta, Merzlikins, Korpisalo, or whoever.

Have Subban, Delia, Lankinen, and Tomkins battle it out for starter and backup then the other two play those roles in Rockford. If the Hogs are keen on having a goalie trio again, then try to get Nalimov to come back over on an AHL deal.

Forgive me for not remembering who said this in the previous message board but it's time for the defense to rally in support of whoever is in net rather than have the goalie bail out the defense.
- Theo Fox

As referenced above, if the Blackhawks aren't going to re-sign Crawford, then my preference is to roll with two of Subban, Delia, Lankinen, or Tomkins with the other two in Rockford.

If there has to be a trade for a starter, I would aim for Merzlikins if it has to be between him, Korpisalo, Kuemper, or Raanta.

Given that he has played less than one season in the NHL, I wouldn't pay through the nose for Merzlikins but also have to be mindful that he earns $4M (2 more years) which is more than what was offered to Crawford.

Korpisalo would have be fine as a backup if Crawford re-signs but his salary is too much at $2.8M (2 more years). Would rather just stick with an in-house backup.

But if the trade for a starter wasn't confined to just the CBJ and ARZ goalies, I would kick the tires on Georgiev, Demko, or Murray but would still be hesitant.

Georgiev's numbers aren't inspiring. Demko is likely hard to get and depends on what the Canucks do with Markstrom. Murray has been injury prone so not reliable unless he's past what's ailing him.

With Lehner re-upped with Vegas, I just don't see any way that Fleury sticks around. While I envision Fleury wanting to go to a contender, I would at least see what is viable on a short-term deal with salary retained which would be tough given Vegas has the highest projected cap hit right now.

Otherwise, stay in house. Fat chance as my gut says Bowman is destined to secure a starter somehow via free agency or trade.

As referenced above, if the Blackhawks aren't going to re-sign Crawford, then my preference is to roll with two of Subban, Delia, Lankinen, or Tomkins with the other two in Rockford.

If there has to be a trade for a starter, I would aim for Merzlikins if it has to be between him, Korpisalo, Kuemper, or Raanta.

Given that he has played less than one season in the NHL, I wouldn't pay through the nose for Merzlikins but also have to be mindful that he earns $4M (2 more years) which is more than what was offered to Crawford.

Korpisalo would have be fine as a backup if Crawford re-signs but his salary is too much at $2.8M (2 more years). Would rather just stick with an in-house backup.

But if the trade for a starter wasn't confined to just the CBJ and ARZ goalies, I would kick the tires on Georgiev, Demko, or Murray but would still be hesitant.

Georgiev's numbers aren't inspiring. Demko is likely hard to get and depends on what the Canucks do with Markstrom. Murray has been injury prone so not reliable unless he's past what's ailing him.

With Lehner re-upped with Vegas, I just don't see any way that Fleury sticks around. While I envision Fleury wanting to go to a contender, I would at least see what is viable on a short-term deal with salary retained which would be tough given Vegas has the highest projected cap hit right now.

Otherwise, stay in house. Fat chance as my gut says Bowman is destined to secure a starter somehow via free agency or trade.
- Theo Fox

This is well thought out and reasoned, and makes total sense. The problem that we run into, is that With Toews, Kane, Keith (and to a lesser degree Seabrook), I don't think Stan will ever go the route of completely unproved in net.

I would welcome it, but I don't see it happening. Hopefully, he doesn't spend much on the goalie position whatever the solution is.

This is well thought out and reasoned, and makes total sense. The problem that we run into, is that With Toews, Kane, Keith (and to a lesser degree Seabrook), I don't think Stan will ever go the route of completely unproved in net.

I would welcome it, but I don't see it happening. Hopefully, he doesn't spend much on the goalie position whatever the solution is.
- Chunk

That is true about the veteran core not having it with an unproven starter in net.

Yet, their contracts have made it tough to start paying the younger players and either retaining Crawford or sliding over to another starter of equal or better caliber.

There's going to be roster sacrifices that they have to accept. If they don't like it, then they need to be willing to waive their NTCs to find greener pastures.

Ya that not a bad record of picking up back ups . I am referring to try and stable a true replacement for your starter .All he has done is throw darts at lottery tickets in the late rounds , And now we have nothing in the pipeline . .
- oldduffman

Raanta was probably good enough to be a starter, Carter Hutton has had a few good seasons too. Not sure what’s expected when you have an entrenched starter In the orgin-I-zation.

That is true about the veteran core not having it with an unproven starter in net.

Yet, their contracts have made it tough to start paying the younger players and either retaining Crawford or sliding over to another starter of equal or better caliber.

There's going to be roster sacrifices that they have to accept. If they don't like it, then they need to be willing to waive their NTCs to find greener pastures.
- Theo Fox

What about griess for 1 to 2 year contract 2.5 and qualified subban combo?

As referenced above, if the Blackhawks aren't going to re-sign Crawford, then my preference is to roll with two of Subban, Delia, Lankinen, or Tomkins with the other two in Rockford.

If there has to be a trade for a starter, I would aim for Merzlikins if it has to be between him, Korpisalo, Kuemper, or Raanta.

Given that he has played less than one season in the NHL, I wouldn't pay through the nose for Merzlikins but also have to be mindful that he earns $4M (2 more years) which is more than what was offered to Crawford.

Korpisalo would have be fine as a backup if Crawford re-signs but his salary is too much at $2.8M (2 more years). Would rather just stick with an in-house backup.

But if the trade for a starter wasn't confined to just the CBJ and ARZ goalies, I would kick the tires on Georgiev, Demko, or Murray but would still be hesitant.

Georgiev's numbers aren't inspiring. Demko is likely hard to get and depends on what the Canucks do with Markstrom. Murray has been injury prone so not reliable unless he's past what's ailing him.

With Lehner re-upped with Vegas, I just don't see any way that Fleury sticks around. While I envision Fleury wanting to go to a contender, I would at least see what is viable on a short-term deal with salary retained which would be tough given Vegas has the highest projected cap hit right now.

Otherwise, stay in house. Fat chance as my gut says Bowman is destined to secure a starter somehow via free agency or trade.
- Theo Fox

Korpisalo is an NHL goaltender - just ask the Toronto Maple Leafs. He'd be capable of 50 - 55 games IMO.

But like any goaltender, if the D in front of him leaves him in a shooting gallery every night, his numbers won't be very good.

Who knew the backup in Dallas could take them to the SC Final?

Well Lehner reportedly today was announced signed five years $25 mill. So that sends a message how much Crawford should expect? But if Crawford waits a bit he might get more from Colorado? Which might be one of few reams he would consider. But one of his requests is to be the man in net. Yet with a compressed schedule next season it is a reasonable assumption that both goaltenders on most teams will see action. If i were in Bowman's shoes i would take Crawford on a team friendly deal and year two is option to renew. You can do that, right. And tell Crawford there is no guarantee he is protected in The Expansion Draft. Bowman has to be smart and disregard loyalty regarding Crawford. After all his age and health make that viewpoint necessary
- jhawk59

5x5 too much for Lehner. Both in AVV and in term.

Hawks were right to move on....

5x5 too much for Lehner. Both in AVV and in term.

Hawks were right to move on....
- hawk35

This is maybe too much now - not too much then....

But...they wouldn’t have been able to sign him for this then.

5x5 too much for Lehner. Both in AVV and in term.

Hawks were right to move on....
- hawk35

I would have to agree. And I am in the camp that Lehner was expecting more than $5M on his next contract (rumor was $7M?). As others have noted, Bowman traded Lehner before the pandemic shut down the league and impacted finances.

I think it's tough to pin this on Bowman from a financial standpoint, IMO. Lehner was not giving a hometown discount especially after the one-year deal he agreed to when departing Long Island.

What about griess for 1 to 2 year contract 2.5 and qualified subban combo?
- Scott1977

Not necessarily advocating for any of these veterans but Greiss is possible as well as other UFA goalies like Talbot, Dell, Kinkaid, Domingue, and Anderson.

This is maybe too much now - not too much then....

But...they wouldn’t have been able to sign him for this then.
- StLBravesFan

Too much then too. I still think he’s a head case, and potential locker room cancer, and I wouldn’t want him around my team long term at any price.

Also, not that good anyway.

@PuckReportNHL

Chris Johnston: "I'd think Marc-Andre Fleury has already played his last game for the Golden Knights."

Says one option #VegasBorn have started to explore is if they'd be able to use an intermediary team in a three-way deal where that team would retain salary to make a deal work

@NHL_Watcher

Friedman on Headlines: "I think Chicago is one of the teams that is interested in Matt Murray, we'll see if it goes any further than that, but I think they're a team that has definitely considered it." #Blackhawks