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- Retinalz

Seems like pure speculation. I highly doubt that the trade wouldn’t include a 1st or bluechip prospect if the Yotes are trading away their franchise player and taking on multiple cap dumps

Seems like fantasy land

Seems like pure speculation. I highly doubt that the trade wouldn’t include a 1st or bluechip prospect if the Yotes are trading away their franchise player and taking on multiple cap dumps

Seems like fantasy land
- Nucker101

Strange. I’ve heard that he is a cap dump and Loui for OEL is fair

Seems like pure speculation. I highly doubt that the trade wouldn’t include a 1st or bluechip prospect if the Yotes are trading away their franchise player and taking on multiple cap dumps

Seems like fantasy land
- Nucker101

It is the silly season now so who knows what is going to stumble out. Plus OEL is not giving AZ much of a choice. Reasons why fantasy could meet reality.

The Onion reports:

"Rudy Giuliani Tests Positive For Slew Of Obscure Bat Diseases Unrelated To Covid-19"


- boonerbuck

If OEL was traded here and the plan is to load up the left side, that puts either Hughes or OEL on the 2nd pairing. It also puts one of those two on the 2nd PP unit. If the Canucks want to put these two high minute men together, Hughes obviously would be on his offside instead of playing him to his strengths.( I know what QH said about this)

This deal sounds a little counter productive for Hughes in multiple ways potentially.

What happened to Satire Shah's bombshell report that the Toffoli deal was all but done and to be announced a week ago?

If OEL was traded here and the plan is to load up the left side, that puts either Hughes or OEL on the 2nd pairing. It also puts one of those two on the 2nd PP unit. If the Canucks want to put these two high minute men together, Hughes obviously would be on his offside instead of playing him to his strengths.( I know what QH said about this)

This deal sounds a little counter productive for Hughes in multiple ways potentially.
- boonerbuck

Top pairing RSD are almost impossible to get without drafting them. Canucks have none. Acquiring top level players is what makes you a contender. OEL fills a need that puts them there. If the cost kills two birds as Carol says why not eh.

If OEL was traded here and the plan is to load up the left side, that puts either Hughes or OEL on the 2nd pairing. It also puts one of those two on the 2nd PP unit. If the Canucks want to put these two high minute men together, Hughes obviously would be on his offside instead of playing him to his strengths.( I know what QH said about this)

This deal sounds a little counter productive for Hughes in multiple ways potentially.
- boonerbuck

OEL for LE ($$ makes sense) + OJ + second?

Trade Sutter for a 3rd

OEL for LE ($$ makes sense) + OJ + second?

Trade Sutter for a 3rd
- canucksfan1944

LE, OJ and a 2nd for OEL. Sorry but that's outrageous. Yotes wont do this in my opinion. You got to think they would insist on a better low salary useable roster player other than LE for 2 seasons.

People are treating this like the reports of LE and Lucic being swapped. Two teams swapping dead weight.

Yotes are in a similar position as the Canucks in the upcoming draft. Canucks cant even offer them a 2nd in this draft and I'm sure the yotes will insist on a 1st anyways. A late 2nd in the *2021* draft is simply not going to cut it.

It would take more than a 2nd or OJ to get rid of LE... Arizona is not going to touch him for middling assets like OJ and a 2nd while parting with OEL. $$ savings or not. They can wait for a better deal. It hasnt been confirmed that OEL will only go to 2 teams... people should be skeptical of reports like that.

LE, OJ and a 2nd for OEL. Sorry but that's outrageous. Yotes wont do this in my opinion. You got to think they would insist on a better low salary useable roster player other than LE for 2 seasons.

People are treating this like the reports of LE and Lucic being swapped. Two teams swapping dead weight.

Yotes are in a similar position as the Canucks in the upcoming draft. Canucks cant even offer them a 2nd in this draft and I'm sure the yotes will insist on a 1st anyways. A late 2nd in the *2021* draft is simply not going to cut it.

It would take more than a 2nd or OJ to get rid of LE... Arizona is not going to touch him for middling assets like OJ and a 2nd while parting with OEL. $$ savings or not. They can wait for a better deal. It hasnt been confirmed that OEL will only go to 2 teams... people should be skeptical of reports like that.
- boonerbuck

Yes. It’s a 1st to get rid of Loui at least ffs

Yes. It’s a 1st to get rid of Loui at least ffs
- CanuckDon

Even if the Yotes took OJ and a 2nd to take LE of their hands, it would be like getting OEL for free then.

Even if the Yotes took OJ and a 2nd to take LE of their hands, it would be like getting OEL for free then.

- boonerbuck

Even if the Yotes took OJ and a 2nd to take LE of their hands, it would be like getting OEL for free then.

- boonerbuck

Lol totally. I have seen some geniuses comment that OEL for Loui (straight up) is a fair swap because of the long contract. Canucks need to be aggressive....we should be planning for the next four years, not the next 10. (frank) that

Personally, I'd prefer OEL then Cernak (who'll cost us more in the long run in both dollars and assets) or a UFA that's going to demand top dollar/term. At least with him pressuring Arizona, his price tag would be far lower and we would get a chance to remove some of our worse contracts that way.

TBF, I don't think it's going to happen, I don't think Arizona will take a cap dump LE/Beagle/Sutter, OJ and a 1st next year for OEL. It's going to require at least one of Podz, Hogs and more than like Boeser because they need scoring REALLY badly.

Personally, I'd prefer OEL then Cernak (who'll cost us more in the long run in both dollars and assets) or a UFA that's going to demand top dollar/term. At least with him pressuring Arizona, his price tag would be far lower and we would get a chance to remove some of our worse contracts that way.

TBF, I don't think it's going to happen, I don't think Arizona will take a cap dump LE/Beagle/Sutter, OJ and a 1st next year for OEL. It's going to require at least one of Podz, Hogs and more than like Boeser because they need scoring REALLY badly.
- DariusKnight

People wouldn’t be talking much about Cernak if they didn’t win a cup. Buyer beware

QMJHL started back tonight.

QMJHL started back tonight.
- VANTEL

Too bad our QMJHL scouts suck and we have no one to watch from there

Personally, I'd prefer OEL then Cernak (who'll cost us more in the long run in both dollars and assets) or a UFA that's going to demand top dollar/term. At least with him pressuring Arizona, his price tag would be far lower and we would get a chance to remove some of our worse contracts that way.

TBF, I don't think it's going to happen, I don't think Arizona will take a cap dump LE/Beagle/Sutter, OJ and a 1st next year for OEL. It's going to require at least one of Podz, Hogs and more than like Boeser because they need scoring REALLY badly.
- DariusKnight

If you're saying OEL would cost more in both money AND assets than Cernak, and that OEL would require at least Pod/Hog + Boeser (and cost $66 million)... what do you think it would take to acquire and sign Cernak??

Sounding like a Dubnyk /Donato trade to SJ going to happen soon

Exactly. I would rather give up a good package for Carlo or Cernak. Guys that are younger and cheaper (and RHD). Yes, their ceiling isn't as high, but they don't have to match what Hughes can do.

Like you said – and especially with a flat cap – the Canucks need those ELCs coming in over the next few years.
- NewYorkNuck

Less painful

Less painful
- VanHockeyGuy

Probably going to cost a first and 5 mil a year for a much less experienced guy.

Probably going to cost a first and 5 mil a year for a much less experienced guy.
- VANTEL

Seems like the " I would rather" crowd isn't factoring that those hypothetical teams are not shopping those players; and if so, want a premium far and above what the OEL leveraged deal is; as reported.

Probably going to cost a first and 5 mil a year for a much less experienced guy.
- VANTEL

Until OEL is traded JB's in signing hold mode. Something needs to give soon.

If you're saying OEL would cost more in both money AND assets than Cernak, and that OEL would require at least Pod/Hog + Boeser (and cost $66 million)... what do you think it would take to acquire and sign Cernak??
- NewYorkNuck

Tampa will match any offer sheet, and they have not stated any intention of trading his RFA rights. This is why I say getting OEL who has tried to force Arizona's hand to trade him to his destination of choice might be /SLIGHTLY/ cheaper then trying to land Cernak, both of whom I consider to be not happening. Tampa will probably want at least OJ, Rathbone and 1st just to even entertain a trade for Cernak right now. The price will only go up at/after the draft because they have the leverage. They can set the market while Arizona is looking to dump cash to gain younger assets.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest OEL fan, what has he done in 8+ years in Arizona with it taking a pandemic just for them to be crushed by Colorado.

Until OEL is traded JB's in signing hold mode. Something needs to give soon.
- VanHockeyGuy

You were right before when you said probably the weekend otherwise I think they move on

I also heard today Marky and OEL are good friends so maybe Benning is pushing hard to get both.