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Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
Maroon win cup, two seasons in a row
- SuperSchennBros

Would like Martin. Don’t see him leaving isles. But also think we couldn’t afford him right now. Barring a trade.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Normally you answer the question that was asked first. But anyway. Who would you have preferred as the back up?

Around .900 is average. Wins are team. And with that logic the save percentage can be attributed to a team stat as well. Defensive play.

- Peter Richards

I did ask first Peter Dikk. With what they wanted to spend Elliot is about what your going to get so he is fine. Me I may have waited it out to see who was left without a team then circled back to Elliot as i do not see any team going after him.

So his save % is below average. Got it.

No save % isnt a team stat.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:53 PM ET
Would like Martin. Don’t see him leaving isles. But also think we couldn’t afford him right now. Barring a trade.
- Peter Richards

I can understand if someone might not want Martin but I like Martin too. I like the Islanders entire bottom six.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
I did ask first Peter Dikk. With what they wanted to spend Elliot is about what your going to get so he is fine. Me I may have waited it out to see who was left without a team then circled back to Elliot as i do not see any team going after him.

So his save % is below average. Got it.

No save % isnt a team stat.

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It can be attributed to how the team performs in front of him.

And around is the key word. One loss the other team scored 7 goals on like 19 shots. Elliot can’t be blamed for all goals scored against.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 4 @ 2:05 PM ET
The NFC East is so bad they could tear it down and do a full rebuild next summer and still probably compete for the division next year.

Saw a rumor the Raiders want Wentz lol.

- hereticpride


They have Carr and Mariota (who is hurt but still). Interesting. May I ask where you heard/saw this?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
I did ask first Peter Dikk. With what they wanted to spend Elliot is about what your going to get so he is fine. Me I may have waited it out to see who was left without a team then circled back to Elliot as i do not see any team going after him.

So his save % is below average. Got it.

No save % isnt a team stat.

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Just curious, if a team holds most shots to the perimeter, not giving up many high danger scoring chances, and the goalie gets a shut out. Is his save percentage not just as much attributed to team defense as it is to the goalie?
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
It can be attributed to how the team performs in front of him.

And around is the key word. One loss the other team scored 7 goals on like 19 shots. Elliot can’t be blamed for all goals scored against.

- Peter Richards

Regardless how the team performs, save % is an individual goalie stat not team. Fair or not like momma says thats the way it bees sometimes.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
Just curious, if a team holds most shots to the perimeter, not giving up many high danger scoring chances, and the goalie gets a shut out. Is his save percentage not just as much attributed to team defense as it is to the goalie?
- Ftown19125

Save % is an individual goalie stat. Not a team. Now I am sure you disagree.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Save % is an individual goalie stat. Not a team. Now I am sure you disagree.
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It might show up on the goalie’s stat line, but it easily can be a result of overall team play.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
Maybe. Don’t remember exactly but didn’t he get into it with the coach at the time.
- Peter Richards

no one really knows why he was sent home and immediately traded while being the top scrorer? Bill did it ever come out?
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:13 PM ET
It might show up on the goalie’s stat line, but it easily can be a result of overall team play.
- Ftown19125

That stat line is one the goalie controls.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
That stat line is one the goalie controls.
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So it has nothing to do with team play?
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
So it has nothing to do with team play?
- Ftown19125

Didnt say that; Is it more a team stat or individual stat?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
They have Carr and Mariota (who is hurt but still). Interesting. May I ask where you heard/saw this?
- Pelle31Forever

Some Facebook group that showed up in my feed posted an article about it. Don’t know where it originated tho so it’s probably just a rumor. I do know Gruden was gaga over him early in his career.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
Didnt say that; Is it more a team stat or individual stat?
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It’s both. You’re the one saying it’s an individual stat. A goalie is definitely capable of standing on his head, but I think that happens way less often than a goalie getting bailed out by his team.

It isn’t strictly an individual stat like you’re implying.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Save % is an individual goalie stat. Not a team. Now I am sure you disagree.
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What a nonsense statement on so many levels.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
What a nonsense statement on so many levels.
- MBFlyerfan


It’s a recurring theme.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 2:37 PM ET
What a nonsense statement on so many levels.
- MBFlyerfan


It's a stat applied to a goaltender, but influenced by his team, the quality of teams he faces, game situations, tightness of referees, etc.

But yeah, solely a goaltending stat.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Some Facebook group that showed up in my feed posted an article about it. Don’t know where it originated tho so it’s probably just a rumor. I do know Gruden was gaga over him early in his career.
- hereticpride


Gruden is gaga over everybody. I remember during his MNF days he always had something positive to say about every player.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
What a nonsense statement on so many levels.
- MBFlyerfan

Please explain how it isnt an individual stat.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
It’s a recurring theme.
- Ftown19125

look at you slurrping up the milkey sauce
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
It's a stat applied to a goaltender, but influenced by his team, the quality of teams he faces, game situations, tightness of referees, etc.

But yeah, solely a goaltending stat.

- jmatchett383

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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
look at you slurrping up the milkey sauce
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Look at you having no idea what you’re talking about. Again.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
Look at you having no idea what you’re talking about. Again.
- Ftown19125

you can do better than that
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
Please explain how it isnt an individual stat.
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You literally just admitted that it has something to do with the team playing in front of him. You can’t get any dumber.
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