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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
You literally just admitted that it has something to do with the team playing in front of him. You can’t get any dumber.
- Ftown19125

Bottom line is it comes down to one player controlling his own save % does it not?You make the save or you don't. My bad if this if that, well what about this what about that.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
If we retain $1M on Jake his salary owed would be less than $6M/yr which could be attractive to a team such as Detroit or Dallas.

This team needs some new blood instilled into the top 6
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
how bad do the eagles lose today?
- 2Real


27 - 9
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
If we retain $1M on Jake his salary owed would be less than $6M/yr which could be attractive to a team such as Detroit or Dallas.

This team needs some new blood instilled into the top 6

- Bayareaflyer


Retaining on any deal with a flat cap isn’t a good move imo. You’re better off keeping Jake and hope all these prospects are the new blood that improve our team.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 4 @ 3:32 PM ET
It may only take 5 or 6 wins to win the NFC East
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
It may only take 5 or 6 wins to win the NFC East
- Bayareaflyer

Seriously. The NFC East has been trash before but this year is spectacularly bad.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Seriously. The NFC East has been trash before but this year is spectacularly bad.
- hereticpride

Eagles could potentially be alone in first place with 1 win after 4 games
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
Bottom line is it comes down to one player controlling his own save % does it not?You make the save or you don't. My bad if this if that, well what about this what about that.
- login



Only to an extent. You have a player left alone on the backside for a wide open tap in because the defense missed an assignment, technically that effects save%, but it is in no way on the goalie.

That is an easy example of how it is not always on the goalie.




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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 4:10 PM ET
Only to an extent. You have a player left alone on the backside for a wide open tap in because the defense missed an assignment, technically that effects save%, but it is in no way on the goalie.

That is an easy example of how it is not always on the goalie.

- MBFlyerfan

I get all that, of course it isnt always on the goalie. Fair or not it is still a much much more an individual stat than a team stat. Goalie has 1 job, stop the puck!!!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 4 @ 4:17 PM ET
I get all that, of course it isnt always on the goalie. Fair or not it is still a much much more an individual stat than a team stat. Goalie has 1 job, stop the puck!!!
- login



Bottom line is it comes down to one player controlling his own save % does it not?


I give up with you.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
I give up with you.
- MBFlyerfan

it is the bottom line is it not? you can find flaws/ abnormalities in everything.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 4:37 PM ET
lol dallas lost today
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 4:38 PM ET
the stage has been set for the eagles to take first place
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 4 @ 4:42 PM ET
lol dallas lost today
- 2Real


They could easily be 0-4 if it wasn’t against the biggest choking franchise in the history of professional sports.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 4:43 PM ET
They could easily be 0-4 if it wasn’t against the biggest choking franchise in the history of professional sports.
- StepfordSam

we could be 0-3 right now if we didn't play the second biggest choking franchise
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 4 @ 5:13 PM ET
I get all that, of course it isnt always on the goalie. Fair or not it is still a much much more an individual stat than a team stat. Goalie has 1 job, stop the puck!!!
- login

peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Oct 4 @ 5:53 PM ET
Yeah I'd take Maroon for sure if he was cheap. Was more talking about Martin.
- jmatchett383


Not getting anybody in FA likely. They will use the rest of their cap money to sign Patrick and the rest to sign Myers as long as they can.

It’s a hockey trade that is most likely if the do anything outside signing their RFA.

They could move someone for picks but that is very limited this year with the flat cap. And will get harder each year that the cap stays flat.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Oct 4 @ 5:59 PM ET
Regardless how the team performs, save % is an individual goalie stat not team. Fair or not like momma says thats the way it bees sometimes.
- login


I get what your saying and agree but it is not the only tool to measure a goalie. And yes so is win percentage. Skaters don’t walk around with win percentages tide to their stats. Goalies do for a reason.

Save are tide to a team effort just as wins are. There are other stats and reports used to justify what Moose means to this team.

But I’m not arguing that his .899 save percentage is above average for a goalie. It isn’t.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 4 @ 7:56 PM ET
no one really knows why he was sent home and immediately traded while being the top scrorer? Bill did it ever come out?
- 2Real


He was having off-ice issues, and also not getting along with the coach. They had a blowup. Paul Holmgren sent him home, told him to get himself together and they'd find a trade. Trade was not immediate, BTW.

Maroon has since thanked Homer and said it saved his career.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM ET
no one really knows why he was sent home and immediately traded while being the top scrorer? I know Holmgren hates that assclown band Maroon 5. BillY did it ever come out?
- 2Real

😅🤧
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 4 @ 8:23 PM ET
Time for my 9ers to get in that philly ass
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
"Caron Wentz has thrown another pick"
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
He was having off-ice issues, and also not getting along with the coach. They had a blowup. Paul Holmgren sent him home, told him to get himself together and they'd find a trade. Trade was not immediate, BTW.

Maroon has since thanked Homer and said it saved his career.

- bmeltzer

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
eagles getting saved by penalties
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 8:51 PM ET
yay we're winning for now
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