wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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Philly in soft discussions for Jet's scoring Finn winger Lanie?
Stay tuned... |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Plus nothing for a 26 year old goalie with 33 games in the NHL and a $4 mil. cap hit - LAHawk
Ty. Strome would even be an overpay. |
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chuckdahammer
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 11.01.2016
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Plan D - Subban and Delia (brace yourself, this is most likely to happen) - DarthKane
Subban isn't in the mix |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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I don't have a good feeling about the Hawks organizatonal development at this time. Just look at the recent first rounders that they have traded. Not many young players the past four years have been able to not only crack the lineup but make an impact as well. Feel strongly though about Dach, as he should make a noticeable impact sooner than later. Are they just drafting the wrong players or is their farm system not doing something right ? Other teams seem to have their kids making the club and also making noticeable contributions. Theo: what is your opinion ? We need some up and coming kids to come up ... stay up ... and make solid contributions - chuckdahammer
I don't think on the balance that the Hawks system is devoid of talent who can be impact players at the NHL level. The deficiencies are at top 6 forward and in net.
The draft is where it starts but then build from there with constant evaluation of the system to make sensible trades of roster players and prospects to shore up the weak areas.
So if the Hawks can add more top 6 talent and starting goalie material in the pipeline, then they will be in a better position. They're headed in the right direction, though, and much stronger than they were even 5 years ago. |
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zm333
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Joined: 05.25.2018
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I don't think on the balance that the Hawks system is devoid of talent who can be impact players at the NHL level. The deficiencies are at top 6 forward and in net.
The draft is where it starts but then build from there with constant evaluation of the system to make sensible trades of roster players and prospects to shore up the weak areas.
So if the Hawks can add more top 6 talent and starting goalie material in the pipeline, then they will be in a better position. They're headed in the right direction, though, and much stronger than they were even 5 years ago. - Theo Fox
If only the Joki for Nylander trade worked in our favor... |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2020/9/30/21492482/chicago-blackhawks-dylan-sikura-trade-prospect-development-analysis-commentary-reports-updates
Saw this article in regards to the Hawks lack of player developement that has me questioning their system - chuckdahammer
Made me miss LBR |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2020/9/30/21492482/chicago-blackhawks-dylan-sikura-trade-prospect-development-analysis-commentary-reports-updates
Saw this article in regards to the Hawks lack of player developement that has me questioning their system - chuckdahammer
Nice that they picked the Stanley Cup finalist's for comparison. What about the rest of the league? Also, the Hawks have been very successful with signing European players that generally are their mid-20's and further along in their development that they do not have to marinate in the Rock. Kubalik is a seventh round pick that hasn't played any games in the AHL.
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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If only the Joki for Nylander trade worked in our favor... - zm333
At this point, it really hasn't worked in anyone's favor. Joki didn't exactly set the world on fire in buffalo. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Nice that they picked the Stanley Cup finalist's for comparison. What about the rest of the league? Also, the Hawks have been very successful with signing European players that generally are their mid-20's and further along in their development that they do not have to marinate in the Rock. Kubalik is a seventh round pick that hasn't played any games in the AHL. - LAHawk
Kubalik was a 5th round pick but your point still stands. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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So, the Wild essentially traded Charlie Coyle for a 3rd RD pick. It could always be worse. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Philly in soft discussions for Jet's scoring Finn winger Lanie?
Stay tuned... - wiz1901
Soft discussion or soft winger?
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Soft discussion or soft winger?
- DarthKane
Yeah, something about Laine and the Flyers just doesn't sound right.
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frafra
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 10.21.2011
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The biggest question I have about the Hawks future moving forward is why Stan Bowman is the one making decisions anymore? Tip my hat to him for his contributions during the last decade...time to move on and get a fresh set of eyes in the organization. |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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The biggest question I have about the Hawks future moving forward is why Stan Bowman is the one making decisions anymore? Tip my hat to him for his contributions during the last decade...time to move on and get a fresh set of eyes in the organization. - frafra
You are going to have to live through at least this year. Especially with how the league's and teams' finances are right now, you are not likely to see many coaches/GM's dropped before their contracts are up, unless they are royally messing up. I'll fault Stan for waiting a bit too long to address areas of need, but I don't mind his overall performance. Would I like that he just stops with the reclamation projects and Hawks retreads? Yes. That said, he has been basically gold with most of his imports, and many draft picks. His FA additions leave a lot to be desired, but with them (supposedly) going full tilt on the kids, I think you will see far fewer mistakes like that. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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I don't think on the balance that the Hawks system is devoid of talent who can be impact players at the NHL level. The deficiencies are at top 6 forward and in net.
The draft is where it starts but then build from there with constant evaluation of the system to make sensible trades of roster players and prospects to shore up the weak areas.
So if the Hawks can add more top 6 talent and starting goalie material in the pipeline, then they will be in a better position. They're headed in the right direction, though, and much stronger than they were even 5 years ago. - Theo Fox
The team needs at least one snarly top six add
A helpful but not preresiquite is for said player to have a big frame body. A long reach and some bulk (a 215 225 pound force) provides this forward with an advantage against smaller players. We have decried the need for toughness, grit, compete level so that is more important than the size/bulk issue.
I am curious if anyone recalls watching Peter McNab back in the day. I was young back then but he sure looked like you couldn't get near him when he was along the boards. |
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Scott1977
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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I am still for the Hawks to draft Lapierre if he is available. More a boom or bust pick, but love the upside.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...rix-lapierre-steal-draft/ - LAHawk
Lapierre or holloway either one would be nice. The only question on lapierre has fully recovered from the spinal injury and if so is going to be chronic issue going forward? |
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Puckin Hostile Retweeted
Lance Lysowski @LLysowski
The Sabres are among a long list of teams that are interested in Columbus' goalies. Acquisition cost is the big question here. The Blue Jackets need help at center, a position the Sabres are thin at. A bigger trade might make more sense for CBJ
Strome plus what for Elvis? - ikeane
The problem with trading Strome to fill a hole (goalie) is that you create a hole at C that you have to fill. Unless Stan had another move up his sleeve.
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Revco38
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Location: Wherever I leave my hat Joined: 07.26.2006
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I am still for the Hawks to draft Lapierre if he is available. More a boom or bust pick, but love the upside.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...rix-lapierre-steal-draft/ - LAHawk
This is my hope as well. Think the upside is greater than anyone else projected that late in the draft. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Lapierre or holloway either one would be nice. The only question on lapierre has fully recovered from the spinal injury and if so is going to be chronic issue going forward? - Scott1977
Who do you take if Zary, Amirov, and Lapierre are available (but not Holloway and the dnan you liked best is also gone). |
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Scott1977
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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Here is question for the panel as arm chair gm's:
17th overall pick strome to Tampa for cireilli and cernak. Sign cernak 3 years 2.5 million per cireilli 4 years between 3 or 4 million per year. Fills needs hawks need 3rd line center 200ft game and dman with edge to his game. |
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Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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Here is question for the panel as arm chair gm's:
17th overall pick strome to Tampa for cireilli and cernak. Sign cernak 3 years 2.5 million per cireilli 4 years between 3 or 4 million per year. Fills needs hawks need 3rd line center 200ft game and dman with edge to his game just for discussion sake. - Scott1977
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Who do you take if Zary, Amirov, and Lapierre are available (but not Holloway and the dnan you liked best is also gone). - jhawk59
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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The problem with trading Strome to fill a hole (goalie) is that you create a hole at C that you have to fill. Unless Stan had another move up his sleeve. - boilermaker100
I'm biased, but there is an argument to be made that Strome at C creates a hole that needs to be filled. I had to stop myself from gagging when I read the Powers article in the Athletic implying that bringing Pirri in could be a buffer to losing Strome. |
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