He’s a decent player
But hardly worth losing your minds over
Especially when his agent said they’re currently still negotiating

The sky won’t fall without Kahun guys
- jdfitz77

Pretty much

He’s a decent player
But hardly worth losing your minds over
Especially when his agent said they’re currently still negotiating

The sky won’t fall without Kahun guys
- jdfitz77

He is one of the few assets this team has. He’s young, shown that he is a NHL player and you controlled his rights.

Even if you don’t see him fitting in whatever vision you have for your team that’s still horrible asset management.

He is one of the few assets this team has. He’s young, shown that he is a NHL player and you controlled his rights.

Even if you don’t see him fitting in whatever vision you have for your team that’s still horrible asset management.
- Stripes77

Unfortunately we have seen this same show for a decade. But again still think he signs

They can literally walk away from any arbitration ruling higher than $3.25 million.

I don’t get it. Based on his play his contract should be around $2-$2.5 million for a few years. They’re gonna lose a good player they basically stole from Pittsburgh for nothing aren’t they?
- Stripes77

I had him getting 2 years st 2.25 a year.

No reason not to qualify him

Just seems risky to loose a good player over less than a million.
- dadeadhead

Well, they didn't decline to qualify him because of the cost of the QO. They declined because they feared how much he will get in arbitration. Basically, the team was concerned he would receive more than they think he's worth (and then he probably walks away as a UFA in one or two years). Kahun will not get enough that the Sabres would have the option to walk away from the award.

Arbitration actually gave Kahun all the leverage in negotiations. If the two sides are legitimately interested in working something out (it sounds like they are), then not qualifying him may have been a smart move. I am guessing (hoping) the Sabres are willing to pay Kahun FMV. But his agent had no incentive to accept that so long as arbitration was an option because whatever the Sabres have already offered him would be the worst-case scenario in arbitration. Now that arbitration is off the table, the best Kahun can get now is his FMV in a flat-cap, pandemic market where very few teams actually have money to spend.

All that said, I will think not qualifying him was a stupid move if he signs elsewhere on Friday. I think you only do this if you're at a stage in negotiations where it's not a question of IF you'll get a deal done but a question of HOW MUCH you'll get the deal done for.

We just don’t have the depth up front to risk losing Kahun.

Adams is continuing the Sabres run of poor decision making.

Kahun will be a valuable top 9 winger in the league elsewhere, and Rossi will be a solid 2C in Minnesota for a decade or more.

And we’ll be on another coach/GM combo and will be forced to trade Jack for pennies on the dollar before long.

We just don’t have the depth up front to risk losing Kahun.

Adams is continuing the Sabres run of poor decision making.

Kahun will be a valuable top 9 winger in the league elsewhere, and Rossi will be a solid 2C in Minnesota for a decade or more.

And we’ll be on another coach/GM combo and will be forced to trade Jack for pennies on the dollar before long.
- Losman

Rossi and Quinn will both be good or very good players, Rossi may bring different aspects but Quinn may score more

It's why the devils went with holtz as he is a sniper and will do very well with Nico or Hughes

I'm sure there is a plan for kahun it's just a matter of if they can get an agreement both sides like

We just don’t have the depth up front to risk losing Kahun.

Adams is continuing the Sabres run of poor decision making.

Kahun will be a valuable top 9 winger in the league elsewhere, and Rossi will be a solid 2C in Minnesota for a decade or more.

And we’ll be on another coach/GM combo and will be forced to trade Jack for pennies on the dollar before long.
- Losman

Or we relax and let Adams and Co. do there jobs and see how it turns out.

Or we relax and let Adams and Co. do there jobs and see how it turns out.
- Buff36

I'm relaxed, because you're right. That's all we can do (we can b!tch and moan, but that accomplishes zip).

Just nonsensical to risk him walking away.

I think they might get a deal done, but when you tell fans in a press conference that priority 1 is improving the roster, you don’t let a cheap middle six player walk over arbitration for a year.
- sbroads24

Not directed solely at you, as there are many who are trashing the Sabres for this Kahun move.
It COULD BE the worst move yet for an organization that seems bent on swimming upstream at every turn...it could be.

Yet, it might also be a smart move to take away a negotiating tool from the player's agent. That only is true if they in fact sign him however, so there is risk there for sure. Yet, if the market is already compressed by a flat Cap and exasperated by many many teams "up against it" with their own players to pay...could be a wildly smart move.

Let's wait a day or two...then if it fails and he walks, THEN we can all jump on the Knock the Sabres Train...I'll be on-board first.

Or we relax and let Adams and Co. do there jobs and see how it turns out.
- Buff36

NEVER.........full steam ahead

Not directed solely at you, as there are many who are trashing the Sabres for this Kahun move.
It COULD BE the worst move yet for an organization that seems bent on swimming upstream at every turn...it could be.

Yet, it might also be a smart move to take away a negotiating tool from the player's agent. That only is true if they in fact sign him however, so there is risk there for sure. Yet, if the market is already compressed by a flat Cap and exasperated by many many teams "up against it" with their own players to pay...could be a wildly smart move.

Let's wait a day or two...then if it fails and he walks, THEN we can all jump on the Knock the Sabres Train...I'll be on-board first.
- IonSabres

Exactly, Good Post

I'm relaxed, because you're right. That's all we can do (we can b!tch and moan, but that accomplishes zip).
- Powerslave

That's Good, why stroke out over something that just started.

Not directed solely at you, as there are many who are trashing the Sabres for this Kahun move.
It COULD BE the worst move yet for an organization that seems bent on swimming upstream at every turn...it could be.

Yet, it might also be a smart move to take away a negotiating tool from the player's agent. That only is true if they in fact sign him however, so there is risk there for sure. Yet, if the market is already compressed by a flat Cap and exasperated by many many teams "up against it" with their own players to pay...could be a wildly smart move.

Let's wait a day or two...then if it fails and he walks, THEN we can all jump on the Knock the Sabres Train...I'll be on-board first.
- IonSabres

And let's wait for the rest of the off-season to play out.

People are so knee-jerk around here. They're NOT done w this roster.

Adams addresses the most glaring need on this roster, which NO ONE saw coming (Staal) and 2 weeks later he's trash and should be FIRED over Dominik Kahun?!

NEVER.........full steam ahead
- dmarsden2988

Don't crash I will be in the living room relaxing doing some Wake and Bake Bong hits.

And let's wait for the rest of the off-season to play out.

People are so knee-jerk around here. They're NOT done w this roster.

Adams addresses the most glaring need on this roster, which NO ONE saw coming (Staal) and 2 weeks later he's trash and should be FIRED over Dominik Kahun?!
- Powerslave

How much does staal have left in the tank? He will be good this upcoming season but what if cozens isn't ready for 2C responsibilities the following season

He is one of the few assets this team has. He’s young, shown that he is a NHL player and you controlled his rights.

Even if you don’t see him fitting in whatever vision you have for your team that’s still horrible asset management.
- Stripes77

Again, and I know I'm late posting here...but you're right that IT COULD BE.

Arbitrator's do not look at current economic conditions when making their Award. It is most certainly true that nearly all teams are, and rumor points to about 17 teams expected to have an internal budget significantly less than $81.5. Hence, there is a potential disconnect there that likely does not match the reality of the new economic conditions.

The risk for the Sabres is ge walks. Now, the risk for the player is there are no chairs left when the music stops. Both are at risk and now, maybe, just maybe it is equal risk on both sides where as before, Kahun's camp had the beneficial position.

This could also be a very smart move by Adams.

How much does staal have left in the tank? He will be good this upcoming season but what if cozens isn't ready for 2C responsibilities the following season
- dmarsden2988

I guess we wait and see what happens, just because he got Staal doesn't mean he doesn't try for another C.

How much does staal have left in the tank? He will be good this upcoming season but what if cozens isn't ready for 2C responsibilities the following season
- dmarsden2988

They got a legit 2C for the upcoming season for nothing, basically

I'm not worried about 21-22. That's their job. He filled the most IMMEDIATE glaring need.

When many were ready to settle for Eric (frank)ing Haula or Derek Stepan as our 2C, Adams goes out and gets a 6'4" Stanley Cup champ who's still got some "gas in the car" (for those Steely Dan fans 😂) because of his professionalism and work ethic.

I guess we wait and see what happens, just because he got Staal doesn't mean he doesn't try for another C.
- Buff36

They absolutely need another center as Staal is not a long term option, especially when you add in that they did not draft a center as they took a winger instead.

Again, and I know I'm late posting here...but you're right that IT COULD BE.

Arbitrator's do not look at current economic conditions when making their Award. It is most certainly true that nearly all teams are, and rumor points to about 17 teams expected to have an internal budget significantly less than $81.5. Hence, there is a potential disconnect there that likely does not match the reality of the new economic conditions.

The risk for the Sabres is ge walks. Now, the risk for the player is there are no chairs left when the music stops. Both are at risk and now, maybe, just maybe it is equal risk on both sides where as before, Kahun's camp had the beneficial position.

This could also be a very smart move by Adams.
- IonSabres

Ok, but what’s stopping Kahun from taking a below market value on year deal to let’s say play in Edmonton for example next to his buddy Draisatil.

Sure seems like his next paycheck could be bigger playing next to a more established player then in a depth role here.

They got a legit 2C for the upcoming season for nothing, basically

I'm not worried about 21-22. That's their job. He filled the most IMMEDIATE glaring need.

When many were ready to settle for Eric (frank)ing Haula or Derek Stepan as our 2C, Adams goes out and gets a 6'4" Stanley Cup champ who's still got some "gas in the car" (for those Steely Dan fans 😂) because of his professionalism and work ethic.
- Powerslave

They need to likely make the playoffs next season to keep Eichel, agreed?

If so, Eichel and Staal are not enough at the center position when you add in the downgrade from Larsson to Lazar and potentially having a rookie fill the other center role.

They need to likely make the playoffs next season to keep Eichel, agreed?

If so, Eichel and Staal are not enough at the center position when you add in the downgrade from Larsson to Lazar and potentially having a rookie fill the other center role.
- kingcong39

I’m expecting a trade, or two here.

Makes no sense to qualify Montour over Kahun.

And honestly I would have been upset if we let Montour walk for free as well.

Just brutal asset management from the Sabres

I had no idea so many people feel so strongly about Dominik Kahun

How much does staal have left in the tank? He will be good this upcoming season but what if cozens isn't ready for 2C responsibilities the following season
- dmarsden2988

I have to believe the plan is to extend him another year and ease Cozens into 2C along the way during year 2.
Seems so very obvious to me.