jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I’m expecting a trade, or two here.
Makes no sense to qualify Montour over Kahun.
And honestly I would have been upset if we let Montour walk for free as well.
Just brutal asset management from the Sabres - Pegullaville
It certainly does. 2nd pair RHD are far more valuable in the NHL than 3LWs |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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I had no idea so many people feel so strongly about Dominik Kahun - jcragcrumple
They lack forwards who can drive play on their own.
He is one of those.
He won't cost much.
The end. |
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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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I have to believe the plan is to extend him another year and ease Cozens into 2C along the way during year 2.
Seems so very obvious to me. - IonSabres
Do you think Eichel - Staal - Cozens - Lazar is enough strength at center for this coming season?
I do not think it is. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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They got a legit 2C for the upcoming season for nothing, basically
I'm not worried about 21-22. That's their job. He filled the most IMMEDIATE glaring need.
When many were ready to settle for Eric (frank)ing Haula or Derek Stepan as our 2C, Adams goes out and gets a 6'4" Stanley Cup champ who's still got some "gas in the car" (for those Steely Dan fans 😂) because of his professionalism and work ethic. - Powerslave
Love me some Stealy Da...Black Shoes, When Friday Ccomes...great stuff. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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It certainly does. 2nd pair RHD are far more valuable in the NHL than 3LWs - jcragcrumple
I guess having 5 good forwards is too much for this organization I guess.
Kahun put up 41 points last year playing with the likes of McCann, Hornqvist, Mojo, Olofsson.
He’s either one of the better third liners in the league or really a top 6 forward that doesn’t get a fair shake ? |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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They absolutely need another center as Staal is not a long term option, especially when you add in that they did not draft a center as they took a winger instead. - kingcong39
We can debate if Cozens fails along the way.
Seems obvious they are banking on Cozens becoming their 2C.
In these economic conditions, I think it is a smart move for this season and next to spend money elsewhere...we know there are plenty of more pressing needs |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Ok, but what’s stopping Kahun from taking a below market value on year deal to let’s say play in Edmonton for example next to his buddy Draisatil.
Sure seems like his next paycheck could be bigger playing next to a more established player then in a depth role here. - Pegullaville
Nothing is stopping that.
I identified it as a risk.
One would think they have assigned a Low condition to the risk assessment though.
That said, it could very, very well blow up in their face. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I’m expecting a trade, or two here.
Makes no sense to qualify Montour over Kahun.
And honestly I would have been upset if we let Montour walk for free as well.
Just brutal asset management from the Sabres - Pegullaville
Could be, but not yet. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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They lack forwards who can drive play on their own.
He is one of those.
He won't cost much.
The end. - kingcong39
If he's not signed or replaced by Sunday then I'll start flipping out |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Do you think Eichel - Staal - Cozens - Lazar is enough strength at center for this coming season?
I do not think it is. - kingcong39
Opinions vary.
By the end of year 1, Kirby Dach had wrestled away the 2C in Chicago.
It could happen here as well for Cozens. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Opinions vary.
By the end of year 1, Kirby Dach had wrestled away the 2C in Chicago.
It could happen here as well for Cozens. - IonSabres
I think the world of Dylan Cozens, and you very well could be right, I just would have a back up plan just in case don’t you think ? |
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I had no idea so many people feel so strongly about Dominik Kahun - jcragcrumple
Kahunstead 2020!
Horrible asset management coming for you! |
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JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Honolulu, HI Joined: 08.27.2007
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Ok, but what’s stopping Kahun from taking a below market value on year deal to let’s say play in Edmonton for example next to his buddy Draisatil.
Sure seems like his next paycheck could be bigger playing next to a more established player then in a depth role here. - Pegullaville
But if he's only good enough to fill a depth role in Buffalo, how is he going to play an elevated role on better hockey teams?
There's a reason his agent said Buffalo makes sense as an opportunity for Kahun. The Sabres haven't been good, and Kahun's usage has been suppressed on prior teams because they had players ahead of him on the depth chart. That's not the case in Buffalo, especially if he plays RW ( his preferred wing position), where the Sabres have exactly Sam ahead of him on the depth chart as of today. I don't remember which wing he played for the Sabres because it was a long time ago and very few games. Was he LW or RW for those 6 games?
He has a much better shot of proving himself a top-6 player in Buffalo than he does on a better team that already has top-6 forwards.
Again, it's a dumb move if they weren't already close on a reaching a deal. It's a smart move if there's serious mutual interest or they were already pretty close. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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But if he's only good enough to fill a depth role in Buffalo, how is he going to play an elevated role on better hockey teams?
There's a reason his agent said Buffalo makes sense as an opportunity for Kahun. The Sabres haven't been good, and Kahun's usage has been suppressed on prior teams because they had players ahead of him on the depth chart. That's not the case in Buffalo, especially if he plays RW (apparently his preferred wing position), where the Sabres have exactly Sam ahead of him on the depth chart as of today, and Sam doesn't even have a contract.
He has a much better shot of proving himself a top-6 player in Buffalo than he does on a better team that already has top-6 forwards.
Again, it's a dumb move if they weren't already close on a reaching a deal. It's a smart move if there's serious mutual interest or they were already pretty close. - JetpackJesus
With Kahun we had a possibility of locking in a top 9 forward that could play up and down the lineup and be a value contract.
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But if he's only good enough to fill a depth role in Buffalo, how is he going to play an elevated role on better hockey teams?
There's a reason his agent said Buffalo makes sense as an opportunity for Kahun. The Sabres haven't been good, and Kahun's usage has been suppressed on prior teams because they had players ahead of him on the depth chart. That's not the case in Buffalo, especially if he plays RW (his preferred wing position), where the Sabres have exactly Sam ahead of him on the depth chart as of today. I don't remember which wing he played for the Sabres because it was a long time ago and very few games. Was he LW or RW for those 6 games?
He has a much better shot of proving himself a top-6 player in Buffalo than he does on a better team that already has top-6 forwards.
Again, it's a dumb move if they weren't already close on a reaching a deal. It's a smart move if there's serious mutual interest or they were already pretty close. - JetpackJesus
Skinner. Staal. Kahun
Interesting...
If you start Cozens at 3rw, where does the angry giraffe slot in? |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I think the world of Dylan Cozens, and you very well could be right, I just would have a back up plan just in case don’t you think ? - Pegullaville
I'll answer with another relevant question ...
Do you think these are normal times and they will depend precious financial resources on the "if" basis.
Normally I would agree with you, yes. I also think cutting out ~13% of your budget precludes one from acting and spending normally.
Lastly, I have been very vocal in saying that it is very unfortunate that the Pegulas have chosen to go into a turtle mode financially speaking when this season and next represent a once-in-100-years opportunity to significantly add good/very good talent at reduced prices. |
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Opinions vary.
By the end of year 1, Kirby Dach had wrestled away the 2C in Chicago.
It could happen here as well for Cozens. - IonSabres
it could be or...... mittlefat went from 3C to rochester
i don't want to start another season banking on a prospect being the guy.. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Pekar and Peterka are going to be insanely fun to watch, and help this team be hard to play against. Quinn as well (he's very skilled and hard to play against) |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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it could be or...... mittlefat went from 3C to rochester
i don't want to start another season banking on a prospect being the guy.. - SabresFaninIndiana
Good thing we don't need to.
Saving my Kahun takes until he signs a contract.
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Although the Buffalo Sabres didn't give Dominik Kahun a qualifying offer, they might still re-sign him.
Kahun would have had arbitration rights if he was qualified, which was a significant gamble for Buffalo. Instead Kahun is now eligible to become an unrestricted free agent, but the two sides are still talking. Kahun scored 12 goals and 31 points in 56 contests in 2019-20.
He should get close to what Chandler Stephenson from the Knights just got. |
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Pekar and Peterka are going to be insanely fun to watch, and help this team be hard to play against. Quinn as well (he's very skilled and hard to play against) - TheSabresTaco
Will Jack wait until they are ready? |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Vegas has made the signing of Chandler Stephenson to a four-year contract official.
As previously reported, the AAV of the deal is $2.75 million. Stephenson registered 11 goals and 26 points in 65 games last season, including eight goals and 22 points across 41 contests with the Golden Knights after he was acquired from Washington. Stephenson can fit anywhere in the lineup and could play in the top-six forward group again for Vegas in 2020-21. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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I'll answer with another relevant question ...
Do you think these are normal times and they will depend precious financial resources on the "if" basis.
Normally I would agree with you, yes. I also think cutting out ~13% of your budget precludes one from acting and spending normally.
Lastly, I have been very vocal in saying that it is very unfortunate that the Pegulas have chosen to go into a turtle mode financially speaking when this season and next represent a once-in-100-years opportunity to significantly add good/very good talent at reduced prices. - IonSabres
I’m not saying for them to go long term on a 3C, however tossing a one year deal out for the sake of keeping a future hall of famer I don’t believe is too much to ask for penny pinching Terry. |
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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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They need to likely make the playoffs next season to keep Eichel, agreed?
If so, Eichel and Staal are not enough at the center position when you add in the downgrade from Larsson to Lazar and potentially having a rookie fill the other center role. - kingcong39
Probably.
No, they're probably not enough. But the off-season just started. |
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Good thing we don't need to.
Saving my Kahun takes until he signs a contract. - TheSabresTaco
i wouldnt have wanted Kahun as 3C anyway that was more about our 3C position. i want to make sure we have a 3C option outside of Cozens going into the season |
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