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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
How do you change it on a phone?

I don't see control panel or anything

- dmarsden2988


Ek is too simple for that. Gotta do it on a desktop.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
I don't know what Kahun would have gotten in Arb., but EROD got 2mill for what he brought. So Kahun could have gotten 3mill or so in Arb.
- Buff36


(frank)ing Erod got 2 million dollars.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
That's it, the fun has just started, it's hard with the Sabres but patience.
- Buff36

lmao. It’s the Buffalo Sabres

They made their big trade for a 36 yo Staal.

Expect a backup caliber goalie and a forward who isn’t really that good.

dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
You'll have to wait until Ek rolls out the mobile app in 2034
- jcragcrumple


Sounds about righr
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
lmao. It’s the Buffalo Sabres

They made their big trade for a 36 yo Staal.

Expect a backup caliber goalie and a forward who isn’t really that good.

- sbroads24


But analytics though....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
What does a one year arbitration award have to do with future years ?

Letting Kahun walk and signing a player to a 3 year deal to replace him would have more of an impact on future years

- Pegullaville


These contracts are all chess moves and we're sitting here playing checkers, like the only factor is 'he's good sign him for whatever'

Jetpack already explained it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
Go take a look at previous arbitration hearings.

The arbitrator always splits it down the middle.

9.5 times out of 10.

And this year is going to be any different ?

“Unedcuated”

- Pegullaville

I don't know Pegs, EROD got 2mill in Arb., Kahun is much better, had more points in 25 or so less games.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
2yrs 5.4 or 5.5mill
- Buff36


Is this the ask or the offer?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
Took the night to chill out im over it
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
I don't know Pegs, EROD got 2mill in Arb., Kahun is much better, had more points in 25 or so less games.
- Buff36



This is the only example everyone has, its an outlier not a norm.

Kahun would have gotten around 3 mil, i can all but guarantee that.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
I had no idea so many people feel so strongly about Dominik Kahun
- jcragcrumple



This is a really solid post.

Same people that argued kahun was a 2nd liner (39) in some posts.

The Sabres are not "over paying" for a decent player.

Congratulations for once to the Sabres.

Crags, could I borrow a few internet points, I believe they sign him to a reasonable 2/3 year deal soon. I'm just out of points.

#smartmovesabres
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
The bills game is not going to be played that sucks
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
Took the night to chill out im over it
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Pronman gave the devil's an A- for the draft and rank them 2nd behind the Kings for prospects


Does he know the devil's selected Aladdin at 20?
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Oct 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
Go take a look at previous arbitration hearings.

The arbitrator always splits it down the middle.

9.5 times out of 10.

And this year is going to be any different ?

“Unedcuated”

- Pegullaville

Literally the problem is past Arb awards. In today's NHL economy those players would get paid less, and splitting the baby results in an above-market deal. As one of the only teams with cap space, could they spend that money better elsewhere in FA? Will they? I don't know. But the assumptions in here are out of control.

PS: In not-2020, Kahun gets a QO.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
lmao. It’s the Buffalo Sabres

They made their big trade for a 36 yo Staal.

Expect a backup caliber goalie and a forward who isn’t really that good.

- sbroads24

24 I am not gonna pull your chain, it's frustrating and sucks, I know I feel the anger too. But I am gonna be patient right know, cause I think this weekend could get interesting.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
The bills game is not going to be played that sucks
- GERBE!!!75PTS


How does that effect the yacht though?

Do they loose more playing in an empty stadium compared to not playing?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Is this the ask or the offer?
- TheSabresTaco

Just what I consider fair for both sides.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Took the night to chill out im over it
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I didn't even bother to stick around. The waters have settled a bit today. I understand the frustration but I also understand the circumstances. Hopefully they get him under contract and we can move onto the next guy.

I'm understand that I'm talking to you, the poolboy, and I dislike the Pegulas as much as the next guy, except you, but having a 3 year flat cap and no gate money is a serious detriment to all teams.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
24 I am not gonna pull your chain, it's frustrating and sucks, I know I feel the anger too. But I am gonna be patient right know, cause I think this weekend could get interesting.
- Buff36


You keep saying that.

IS it just a gut feeling or is it, "in teh know"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:05 AM ET
Literally the problem is past Arb awards. In today's NHL economy those players would get paid less, and splitting the baby results in an above-market deal. As one of the only teams with cap space, could they spend that money better elsewhere in FA? Will they? I don't know. But the assumptions in here are out of control.

PS: In not-2020, Kahun gets a QO.

- JetpackJesus


Probably a fact.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
I didn't even bother to stick around. The waters have settled a bit today. I understand the frustration but I also understand the circumstances. Hopefully they get him under contract and we can move onto the next guy.

I'm understand that I'm talking to you, the poolboy, and I dislike the Pegulas as much as the next guy, except you, but having a 3 year flat cap and no gate money is a serious detriment to all teams.

- TheSabresTaco


Either they feel there is a good chance of signing him and not going to arb or they would have traded him for something


If he walks for nothing well yeah
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
This is a really solid post.

Same people that argued kahun was a 2nd liner (39) in some posts.

The Sabres are not "over paying" for a decent player.

Congratulations for once to the Sabres.

Crags, could I borrow a few internet points, I believe they sign him to a reasonable 2/3 year deal soon. I'm just out of points.

#smartmovesabres

- Boss34



Max would have been 3.5 Million dollars for one year..... AND THEY STILL COULD HAVE WORKED ON A CONTRACT even if they qualified him.

Its a terrible decision.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
But analytics though....
- ImThatGuy


I’d love to see what analytics showed to let Kahun walk and still continue to employ both Montour and Risto.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
Either they feel there is a good chance of signing him and not going to arb or they would have traded him for something


If he walks for nothing well yeah

- dmarsden2988


Yeah, letting him walk for nothing is a bad look, no doubt. But they genuinely like the player and want to keep him, at an appropriate cost. As Adams stated, it's a surefire gamble.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
I’d love to see what analytics showed to let Kahun walk and still continue to employ both Montour and Risto.
- Pegullaville


If they are concerned about what Kahun is going to get in arb, oh boy on VO and Reinhart.
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