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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
You keep saying that.

IS it just a gut feeling or is it, "in teh know"

- ImThatGuy

I will just say I know there talking with a few teams, and if things work out, we will be a better hockey team.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
Imagine balking over a $3-3.5 Million contract for a 2nd/3rd line player that is actually good.
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Oct 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
Max would have been 3.5 Million dollars for one year..... AND THEY STILL COULD HAVE WORKED ON A CONTRACT even if they qualified him.

Its a terrible decision.

- ImThatGuy

You have to negotiate the new deal before the arb hearing. Once the arb award comes out you are stuck with it unless it's above the walk-away threshold.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
Yeah, letting him walk for nothing is a bad look, no doubt. But they genuinely like the player and want to keep him, at an appropriate cost. As Adams stated, it's a surefire gamble.
- TheSabresTaco


If it was someone who had played with the team for a while or was drafted by them then the player may feel more loyal and feel that they should work on a contract

But kahun played what 10 games with the sabres so he may not feel that attached and could go to a contender

It is a risk
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
You have to negotiate the new deal before the arb hearing. Once the arb award comes out you are stuck with it unless it's above the walk-away threshold.
- JetpackJesus

yes i know that
The Arb hearing wouldn't be for a least a month and you have all that time to negotiate that contract.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
Thanks.

Pretty funny that guys sign at 12:01 even though tampering is illegal

- jcragcrumple

Mostly clients of this guy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1o2wg5wqko
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
If it was someone who had played with the team for a while or was drafted by them then the player may feel more loyal and feel that they should work on a contract

But kahun played what 10 games with the sabres so he may not feel that attached and could go to a contender

It is a risk

- dmarsden2988

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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:12 AM ET
Max would have been 3.5 Million dollars for one year..... AND THEY STILL COULD HAVE WORKED ON A CONTRACT even if they qualified him.

Its a terrible decision.

- ImThatGuy

But you can't walk away from that 3.5mill. Yeah they could work on a contract but why would Kahun take anything less than that in negotiations.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
The bills game is not going to be played that sucks
- GERBE!!!75PTS


wrong as of right now. NFL is hoping the Titans have two clean days tomorrow and Saturday and the game can be held on Monday or Tuesday. The Chiefs game would then be moved from Thursday to Saturday. Still all up in the air depending on test results for the Titans tomorrow and Saturday
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
Imagine balking over a $3-3.5 Million contract for a 2nd/3rd line player that is actually good.
- ImThatGuy


While subsequently giving $3-3.5M to a redundant position on our roster whom also does not look good at all analytically.

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:14 AM ET
But you can't walk away from that 3.5mill. Yeah they could work on a contract but why would Kahun take anything less than that in negotiations.
- Buff36


Kahun at 3.5 Mil.....is good value.........
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
Kahun at 3.5 Mil.....is good value.........
- ImThatGuy

Kahun at 2.5 to 2.75 is better.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 8 @ 10:16 AM ET
Kahun at 2.5 to 2.75 is better.
- Buff36


Kahun at 850K is EVEN BEtter.

But fantasy land doesnt exist and players get paid.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 8 @ 10:19 AM ET
Imagine balking over a $3-3.5 Million contract for a 2nd/3rd line player that is actually good.
- ImThatGuy

They have a rink manager acting as GM. What do people expect?

He's out to prove he's smart and can save daddy money and will inevitably make wrong decision after wrong decision

Hopefully he does something to get fired before the Eichel trade
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:20 AM ET
Kahun at 850K is EVEN BEtter.

But fantasy land doesnt exist and players get paid.

- ImThatGuy

Fantasy land, that's almost a 2mill raise from his ELC.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
Kahun at 2.5 to 2.75 is better.
- Buff36


Now what arbitrator in their right mind would not agree with that sentiment ?

JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Oct 8 @ 10:24 AM ET
yes i know that
The Arb hearing wouldn't be for a least a month and you have all that time to negotiate that contract.

- ImThatGuy

But from a negotiating standpoint, the agent would never agree to a new deal with arbitration on the table. He has all the leverage. The worst case scenario for Kahun at arbitration is the contract he already rejected. I mean, I guess the Sabres could just capitulate and overpay Kahun by so much that he re-signs, but then we'd all want to murder GMKA.

If you're an arb-eligible player that can actually play hockey in the NHL and won't get an award >$4.6M, there's literally 0 incentive to not go to arbitration. You will get at least what you've already rejected.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
Kahun at 3.5 Mil.....is good value.........
- ImThatGuy

So Kahun is worth what Rhino brought the last 2yrs. That's what your saying.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
So Kahun is worth what Rhino brought the last 2yrs. That's what your saying.
- Buff36


No what he is saying is that Kahun can be a value contract, like what Reinhart has been for us the past two years.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:27 AM ET
Now what arbitrator in their right mind would not agree with that sentiment ?
- Pegullaville

That's what I think he's worth, not a arb., again EROD got 2mill so who knows what Kahun would have gotten.
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Oct 8 @ 10:27 AM ET
No what he is saying is that Kahun can be a value contract, like what Reinhart has been for us the past two years.
- Pegullaville

That would be awesome. I think the Sabres and most fans don't think Kahun at $3.5M is a value contract, though.

If you do, I get why you're upset.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 8 @ 10:28 AM ET
No what he is saying is that Kahun can be a value contract, like what Reinhart has been for us the past two years.
- Pegullaville

I understand that, but 3.5 isn't a value contract right know for Kahun.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Oct 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
I will just say I know there talking with a few teams, and if things work out, we will be a better hockey team.
- Buff36



Thanks man. It’s good to hear they are still talking. I still have a little faith in the moving and shaking that may make us a better team!
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 8 @ 10:30 AM ET
wrong as of right now. NFL is hoping the Titans have two clean days tomorrow and Saturday and the game can be held on Monday or Tuesday. The Chiefs game would then be moved from Thursday to Saturday. Still all up in the air depending on test results for the Titans tomorrow and Saturday
- turbo044


So the nfl is going to (frank) the bills wow
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 8 @ 10:30 AM ET
The Buffalo Buzz-erds Quartet
Gloom, despair
and agony on me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAAKPJEq1Ew
(cover version of an old Panthers’ theme song)
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