Going with the kids is likely Plan C.

Plan A: re-sign Crawford
Plan B: acquire young goalie
Pan C: go with in-house solution
- DarthKane

This or possibly Stan is just posturing???

The premise of trading the 3 veterans is very very far fetched (crazy/ridiculous). One maybe (and probably not Keith).
- -Doh-

Guessing De Haan goes ala Maatta deal. Maybe some retained salary for a half used roll of tape

This or possibly Stan is just posturing???
- BGKarras

Dont know. I am betting Wirtz is thinking about the Covid/fan revenue issue that will hit the NHL hard this coming season. He may be wanting to shed money issues which is why I think Saad gets moved here soon.

assuming we do not trade for a $$ goalie would you give wennberg a 3 year 5 mil total deall? of the other young guys hitting the market. kahun, CAGG, keoke, veraghe are probably the best. galchenyuk and athanasiou have put up good numbers but are not very good as bottom 6 guys. dont know much about sterchter, benning, bowey, jankowski. if we do sign any of the younger guys I want guys that are at least ok in there own zone. we have enough that are not.
- kmw4631

There are going to be a ton of UFA's available at "value" prices. It should be interesting. I would shy away from players that have injury/concussion histories (unless at ridiculously low prices). I also would avoid contracts that go beyond the 22/23 season. Finally I would avoid any NMC/NTC.

I think Strome's deal will be interesting. Is he our 3C or can we do better in the UFA pool. The pool has gotten deeper this week.

Kahun should also be interesting.

Guessing De Haan goes ala Maatta deal. Maybe some retained salary for a half used roll of tape
- ikeane

I think you are undervaluing deHaan. We will see.

I think you are undervaluing deHaan. We will see.
- -Doh-

Yeah he was coming back early from an injury. But his play disappointed me in the play-in and play-off.

Murphy for Andreas Johansson
- LAHawk

I was thinking more the big russian. Mykiaev excuse the spelling.

I think you are undervaluing deHaan. We will see.
- -Doh-

He missed more than half the season in 2017/18 and again in 2019/20. Missing that much time in 2 of the last 3 seasons makes him a lot less moveable, especially with 2 more years at $4.5M.

Dont know. I am betting Wirtz is thinking about the Covid/fan revenue issue that will hit the NHL hard this coming season. He may be wanting to shed money issues which is why I think Saad gets moved here soon.
- z1990z

I'm pretty sure Rocky banked some coin between 2009 and 2019. It's not going to break him to operate at a loss for a few years.

There are going to be a ton of UFA's available at "value" prices. It should be interesting. I would shy away from players that have injury/concussion histories (unless at ridiculously low prices). I also would avoid contracts that go beyond the 22/23 season. Finally I would avoid any NMC/NTC.

I think Strome's deal will be interesting. Is he our 3C or can we do better in the UFA pool. The pool has gotten deeper this week.

Kahun should also be interesting.
- -Doh-

Is Cousins considered a 3C or 4C?

Can't buyout Smith because he is on LTIR. Unless they are really up against the cap there is no reason to buy him out. Buyout gives you a $1mil more cap this year but costs you a $1mil in cap next year. Burying him costs you a $1mil more this season in cap, but nothing next year. Leaving him on LTIR gives you his cap space.

LMFAO are you day drinking? not one of those trades are realistic
- GPHawksfan

Still need vets on team with kids plus expansion draft like previous poster said.

You really just want trades for the sake of seeing trades right?
- GPHawksfan

No just mapping a possible plan its obvious saad will get traded when is the question and contenders always d need help going into the playoffs. And maybe nothing happens and stan stays with the current roster. Next couple of weeks will tell what direction hawks are going imo.

Dont know. I am betting Wirtz is thinking about the Covid/fan revenue issue that will hit the NHL hard this coming season. He may be wanting to shed money issues which is why I think Saad gets moved here soon.
- z1990z

Good possibility considering he's a very tradable commodity.

There are going to be a ton of UFA's available at "value" prices. It should be interesting. I would shy away from players that have injury/concussion histories (unless at ridiculously low prices). I also would avoid contracts that go beyond the 22/23 season. Finally I would avoid any NMC/NTC.

I think Strome's deal will be interesting. Is he our 3C or can we do better in the UFA pool. The pool has gotten deeper this week.

Kahun should also be interesting.
- -Doh-

How they deal with Strome is going to be very interesting. Hardass Stan only owes him a 10% raise now and he has Danny Wirtz listening in with interest. I think Dylan has a choice - take the raise or sit out the season.
The UFA's are coming tomorrow and there are plenty of them from the non qualified list and other players who need to be moved by cap strapped teams.

I could see Stan signing Strome and Kubalik to cheaper than expected one year deals, with a hand shake agreement about their next deal.

I am thinking of Kruger. He signed a cheap one year deal in 2015 ($1.5 mil) and we thought that was a bargain. But really that could have been to get us under the cap. Then he was injured and only played 41 games with no goals and 4 assists in 2015/16 and was rewarded with a 3 year deal at $3mil per year with a modified NMC. My take is that he had a handshake agreement before he signed the contract in 2015 that he would be lavishly rewarder the on his next contract in 2016.

No just mapping a possible plan its obvious saad will get traded and contenders always d need help going into the playoffs. And maybe nothing happens and stan stays with the current roster. Next couple of weeks will tell what direction hawks are going imo.
- Scott1977

What is amazing about Saad is he's only 27 with two cups. As to last year, either he's a terrible finisher or had poor luck. Probably a combo of both. If he scored on 25% more of his grade A chances, the Hawks could have won a few more. I think his contract is pretty decent for what he is, power forward (not overly physical) who plays a North/South game and is responsible on both ends of the ice. That's exactly why he is movable. I think he makes any line he's on much better because of the chances he generates.

Wonder what we can get for him.

How they deal with Strome is going to be very interesting. Hardass Stan only owes him a 10% raise now and he has Danny Wirtz listening in with interest. I think Dylan has a choice - take the raise or sit out the season.
The UFA's are coming tomorrow and there are plenty of them from the non qualified list and other players who need to be moved by cap strapped teams.
- RickJ

What will Kubalik's deal look like?

The bold above made me chuckle.
- Chunk

Whatever route they decide to go, they cannot have more than two young (first/second year) defensemen on the ice, unless there are injuries. There are various ways to rebuild, but you must have veteran presence for the young guys to learn from, otherwise they will not grow into the pros that we expect them to be. So last year Boqvist, this year maybe Carlsson or Mitchell. All rebuilding teams need veteran presence to show the kids the way, from off season to pre game preparation, to in game situations. One more note, if you have Boqvist, Mitchell, and Carlsson on the ice, you should know that you are sacrificing a young goalies career, they will never be the same, and will not progress as they should. This is why you see teams struggling year after year, too many young guys on the team at one time.

Yeah he was coming back early from an injury. But his play disappointed me in the play-in and play-off.
- Popsghostly

Agree. But earlier in the year he looked pretty good. I think they bring him to training camp and if he looks healthy he may have some pretty good value when someone's top 4 defender is injured.

I could see Stan signing Strome and Kubalik to cheaper than expected one year deals, with a hand shake agreement about their next deal.

I am thinking of Kruger. He signed a cheap one year deal in 2015 ($1.5 mil) and we thought that was a bargain. But really that could have been to get us under the cap. Then he was injured and only played 41 games with no goals and 4 assists in 2015/16 and was rewarded with a 3 year deal at $3mil per year with a modified NMC. My take is that he had a handshake agreement before he signed the contract in 2015 that he would be lavishly rewarder the on his next contract in 2016.
- -Doh-

That is exactly what happened, also happened with Bickell, remember he was playing at $500K (league minimum at that time) for 3 years.

Whatever route they decide to go, they cannot have more than two young (first/second year) defensemen on the ice, unless there are injuries. There are various ways to rebuild, but you must have veteran presence for the young guys to learn from, otherwise they will not grow into the pros that we expect them to be. So last year Boqvist, this year maybe Carlsson or Mitchell. All rebuilding teams need veteran presence to show the kids the way, from off season to pre game preparation, to in game situations. One more note, if you have Boqvist, Mitchell, and Carlsson on the ice, you should know that you are sacrificing a young goalies career, they will never be the same, and will not progress as they should. This is why you see teams struggling year after year, too many young guys on the team at one time.
- Angotti

This. You want to blend in the younger guys when they are ready, without rushing them. Let them force a move by earning a spot. We certainly want to avoid a Oiler, Leaf, Coyote rebuild where you have some high draft picks but no veteran leadership and you play pond hockey for several years.

He missed more than half the season in 2017/18 and again in 2019/20. Missing that much time in 2 of the last 3 seasons makes him a lot less moveable, especially with 2 more years at $4.5M.
- EbonyRaptor

Maybe. We will see. If healthy he has value to the Hawks and other teams.

What is amazing about Saad is he's only 27 with two cups. As to last year, either he's a terrible finisher or had poor luck. Probably a combo of both. If he scored on 25% more of his grade A chances, the Hawks could have won a few more. I think his contract is pretty decent for what he is, power forward (not overly physical) who plays a North/South game and is responsible on both ends of the ice. That's exactly why he is movable. I think he makes any line he's on much better because of the chances he generates.

Wonder what we can get for him.
- Popsghostly

Agree but other clubs value him and on club like Colorado he be more productive. It seems that a lot of clubs are interested in Saad.

With these made up rules (if the season is played partially), I don't trust any kind of a draft lottery.
- powerenforcer

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