walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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According to The Fourth Period (whatever that's worth) teams have kicked the tires on Scott Darling to see if he'd come back to the NHL in a back-up role. - BINGO!
Scotty will find a home somewhere. Maybe in Rockford. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Oh no you can't pull back now, his agent already promised the kid the deal. He's Slovakian, he doesn't understand a Tallon clerical error. - RickJ
too bad i meant pesos. Or CDN. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Keith too valuable to the team per your earlier post plus a NMC
Seabs has an untradeable contract and a NMC.
DeHaan gets you a 4th or 5th.
Keep the most valuable D trade chip Murphy if you want, but you delay the start of a young D beginning to gain that 250 games experience you mentioned. - boilermaker100
This is a good read on how the defense shapes up..Seabrook may or may not transition to more of a depth 7th slot; it is a long season even with fewer games..So to explain this farther, I mean there is a lot of back.to back in a compressed schedule. Seabrook may receive more gp or TOI within a game as related to whether a kid has a bad game, going with seven D, if they decide add a dman so as to give a different kid a shelteted look minutes, strategy vs a particular heavy or speedy opponent.
I want to highlight here I really hope that Seabs can flourish as a six and or seventh slot because we have a need sometimes more than you think to have a warrior like Seabrook to balance out the rough stuff thrown up in the face of several skill but not exactly tough young guys on this blueline
There is a pro con, a host of plus or minus in how the defense matches up against each opponent. Trading Murphy impacts the group remaining when you take away what Murphy provides. I think you have to carefully consider what the return is for Murphy. And of course if Murphy is moved then you can get a more clear idea what your expansion protection list looks like.
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FFS Taylor, you seem to have no comprehension of timelines. Yes Stan may prove to ultimately be puntable but at least have a (frank)ing clue.
Here let me lay it out for you...
Prior to suspension of season = Lehner's nut > $7M
After Covid Lehner's nut = $5M (which yes is less than $7M) - HawkintheD
He just finds a way to twist things to make Bowman and Co look bad. Even for $5 mil per at 5 years no thanks |
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hpk90
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Location: North Potomac, MD Joined: 12.13.2011
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I grew up watching Tony O, and Glenn Hall was well-before my time. With them, Corey Crawford belongs in the discussion of best Blackhawk goalie ever. I have enjoyed watching him grow with the team, and become a winner. Thank you for all you have done for the Hawks and the fans. The number 50 belongs in the rafters and soon. Hall of Fame? That is a good question. Frankly, I want to puke every time some hockey commentator forgets to include him among the best goalies playing now.
As the board's self-proclaimed sentimentalist, I think we should have signed him (or found a way), and let him retire as a Hawk (maybe he chooses that route anyway for health reasons, but I think he won't just yet). However, sentimentality most definitely flies in the face of the likely fiscal reality the team faces. I hope Bowman finds a good goalie during free agency, or that Subban/Delia/Lankinen etc are good enough to hold the fort until Commesso is ready. Otherwise not-signing Crawford will be the most questioned of all the questionable moves he has made. |
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Hawk4life
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Location: St Louis, MO Joined: 05.19.2014
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I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of Crawford is, I don't think this is necessarily the hawks saying rebuild, it's that we are looking for someone for a year and Crawford probably wants more than 1 year. It is possible Subban could handle things and maybe Subban turns into a Markstrom (Late Bloomer) and I think the Hawks are focused on developing their defense corps to get to play more defense and I imagine they are going to keep everyone and maybe add a center or a guy like Kahun again. I think 4K showed he can handle things and he got better as he played more. I think we may have gotten someone who could really get better and turn into a think (Patrick Sharp, but on D). Patrick Sharp didn't light it up when he got here either. I think 4K is solid and someone we can build on, and if we kept Crawford we probably eliminate or trade someone that maybe took a turn for the better this year.
I do think on another note that we see a revitalized Seabs, obviously not top of the line, but something to show people he's got a bit more left in the tank. I just think the team we see is basically what you will see next year but adding a defense like Beaudin or what not. What we saw in the playoffs is something our team can build on. I think everyone took things to the next level as they gained some experience from the slow down. So I see Obviously the kid on defense needs a little help with his confidence but I think he will grow. Otherwise the team you see currently is probably what is going to be there 2021. |
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New contract for Josh Anderson in Montreal- 7 x 5.5M |
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Any chance that Crawford enters the market place and finds that the 3.5M he left on the table is more than what is being offered elsewhere?
And then circles back to Bowman? |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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New contract for Josh Anderson in Montreal- 7 x 5.5M - boilermaker100
That seems really high to me. Has had both knee and shoulder injuries, and was not producing much last year before he went down. Granted, I don't really follow him much, but it sounds like something Stan would have done 2 years ago. |
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Chunk
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Any chance that Crawford enters the market place and finds that the 3.5M he left on the table is more than what is being offered elsewhere?
And then circles back to Bowman? - 67hawks
I'm sure it's possible, but from the sound of it, Stan has already moved on. There are reports that he is still trying to sign Subban after not qualifying him. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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New contract for Josh Anderson in Montreal- 7 x 5.5M - boilermaker100
and people complain about bowman's contracts. |
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I'm sure it's possible, but from the sound of it, Stan has already moved on. There are reports that he is still trying to sign Subban after not qualifying him. - Chunk
There's so much time, I'm sure another goalie will be brought in, just don't know how. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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That seems really high to me. Has had both knee and shoulder injuries, and was not producing much last year before he went down. Granted, I don't really follow him much, but it sounds like something Stan would have done 2 years ago. - Chunk
he is a 30 point guy at best. he has had his one magical season but hitz and gritz and stuff |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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I grew up watching Tony O, and Glenn Hall was well-before my time. With them, Corey Crawford belongs in the discussion of best Blackhawk goalie ever. I have enjoyed watching him grow with the team, and become a winner. Thank you for all you have done for the Hawks and the fans. The number 50 belongs in the rafters and soon. Hall of Fame? That is a good question. Frankly, I want to puke every time some hockey commentator forgets to include him among the best goalies playing now.
As the board's self-proclaimed sentimentalist, I think we should have signed him (or found a way), and let him retire as a Hawk (maybe he chooses that route anyway for health reasons, but I think he won't just yet). However, sentimentality most definitely flies in the face of the likely fiscal reality the team faces. I hope Bowman finds a good goalie during free agency, or that Subban/Delia/Lankinen etc are good enough to hold the fort until Commesso is ready. Otherwise not-signing Crawford will be the most questioned of all the questionable moves he has made. - hpk90
You cannot say with 100% certainty that Bowman moving on from Crawford "will be the most questionable moves he had made"
In the overall picture it is too early to say that
In the overall picture you do not yet know the dollar and cap constraints Bowman is working under. Not until Rocky or Stan says, or we learn by how things turn out.
If the team is going to feature a lot of youth and keeps trying to bring in more youth (even a tad earlier than some kids may be ready), then Crawford here is not likely going to equate = playoffs
Additionally Bowman may want to give the Rockford goaltenders more playing time than Crawford would like....too bad for Crawford.....Stan may be itching to determine which goaltender he feels is better as a back up in the next couple or so years ahead. Cheaper withput Crawford to find out now [next season]. After all, Stan probably wants to keep the door open whom is the veteran netminder so that he (Bowman) can save even more money by switching out with a less expensive veteran the year after next.
The rub here is that Crawford is the most expensive goalie to have as #1. Bowman did not want to give him two years anyway (I bet).
I do not believe the road to the playoffs next season will not be as easy. Therefore Crawford isn't necessary if he won't take a discount. Better to bring in a less expensive veteran and mix with the Rockford guys in net. |
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and people complain about bowman's contracts. - Elbows15
Yeah but 5.5M after the 20% escrow, the additional 10% give back and Quebec taxes, there ain’t much left. |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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He just finds a way to twist things to make Bowman and Co look bad. Even for $5 mil per at 5 years no thanks - BetweenTheDots
Yeah, sorry. Was catching up on the days posts and saw that and just lost it. I'll probably be more irate in about a half hour or so when Brady starts shredding the Bear defense.
Agree that $5x5 is still too much. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Yeah but 5.5M after the 20% escrow, the additional 10% give back and Quebec taxes, there ain’t much left. - boilermaker100
Cap hit remains the same. |
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Yeah, sorry. Was catching up on the days posts and saw that and just lost it. I'll probably be more irate in about a half hour or so when Brady starts shredding the Bear defense.
Agree that $5x5 is still too much. - HawkintheD
Hahaha, i hear you. You just never know from week to week, be nice if they don't spot them 7 points to start the game
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Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Yorkville, IL Joined: 08.30.2012
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and people complain about bowman's contracts. - Elbows15
Stupid contract and term. Ha ha he is a 3.5 4 million at best. |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Hahaha, i hear you. You just never know from week to week, be nice if they don't spot them 7 points to start the game - BetweenTheDots
Kind of sad but that's essentially what I'm hoping for. Went down to see a Bear vs Washington Football Team game in the 80's at RFK.
Tomczak was QB'ing the Bears and the Skins were a half decent then. I expected a WSH blowout but Tomczak and Neil Anderson both had great days and the Bears won like 35-18...so you never know. |
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BGKarras
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Location: Itasca, IL Joined: 06.19.2012
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Any chance that Crawford enters the market place and finds that the 3.5M he left on the table is more than what is being offered elsewhere?
And then circles back to Bowman? - 67hawks
I highly doubt that would even happen. Some other GM especially if that said team is on the cusp of being a legitimate cup contender will pay him what he wants considering his past success as a two time champion. |
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GPHawksfan
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Location: AB Joined: 01.26.2018
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Yeah, sorry. Was catching up on the days posts and saw that and just lost it. I'll probably be more irate in about a half hour or so when Brady starts shredding the Bear defense.
Agree that $5x5 is still too much. - HawkintheD
Responding to anything that guy posts is an exercise in futility. He knows best about all subjects even if he has no clue what he's talking about. |
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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You know, I was just thinking... and I wonder if they think Reichel is ready to go next season like they did with dach this past season. Just saying because they could potentially part with someone if they felt he passed up Nylander on the depth chart. - Hawk4life
Nah, he is really not developed physically and howe needs to play and improve to get ready to be a pro..
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wiz1901
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Location: DraftSite com, IL Joined: 05.14.2008
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Other than Reichl, and maybe Commesso, any lower picks likely to become productive in the Show? - StLBravesFan
yeah I think so ..
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