Nashville buying out Kyle Turris. I'd target him in free agency. He is a good 3rd line option and he can move up to a temp top 6 role if crosby/malkin are hurt.
- SuperHenderson13

Yep

Offer him 2.5 Million x 2 years and call it a day

He won't be a league minimum guy, but he can still play

I like everything JR has done this offseason. Even if you hate Matheson, that was the cost of moving off of Horny. Look around NO ONE is taking on the $$ and term of a guy like Horny

Out

Hornqvist
Bjugstad
JJ
Murray
Simon
Sheary
Schultz

Bunch of Old/Slow and/or dead weight
- TheGame316

Just do these lines:

Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Rust-Malkin-Crosby
Crosby-Crosby-Crosby
Crosby-Malkin-Crosby

Letang-Crosby
Crosby-Marino
Letang-DeSmith

Jarry
DeSmith/Crosby

Yep

Offer him 2.5 Million x 2 years and call it a day

He won't be a league minimum guy, but he can still play
- TheGame316

1x1 should be enough

I like everything JR has done this offseason. Even if you hate Matheson, that was the cost of moving off of Horny. Look around NO ONE is taking on the $$ and term of a guy like Horny

Out

Hornqvist
Bjugstad
JJ
Murray
Simon
Sheary
Schultz

Bunch of Old/Slow and/or dead weight
- TheGame316

I refuse to believe Horny couldnt have been dealt without taking back Matheson

Ryan Wilson: Penguins don't need to Murray about making goaltender trade anymore
Penguins don't need to Murray about making goaltender trade anymore
- Ryan_Wilson

Nice title, Garf

I refuse to believe Horny couldnt have been dealt without taking back Matheson
- Guile

YOU HAVE NO...NOOO...

Question is, does Ottawa think MM will be their goalie in a few years when they start being ready to contend, or do they think they can help him tank for Wright

I refuse to believe Horny couldnt have been dealt without taking back Matheson
- Guile

MABBLES!

Just do these lines:

Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Rust-Malkin-Crosby
Crosby-Crosby-Crosby
Crosby-Malkin-Crosby

Letang-Crosby
Crosby-Marino
Letang-DeSmith

Jarry
DeSmith/Crosby
- jmatchett383

I’d like to see Tanev get a shot with Crosby

I refuse to believe Horny couldnt have been dealt without taking back Matheson
- Guile

He could have been dealt elsewhere with an equally bad contract/limited player coming back

GM's can't move anybody anywhere.

Older players like Horn with limited skillsets/deployments making 5.3 Million for 3 more years are toxic assets

Just do these lines:

Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Rust-Malkin-Crosby
Crosby-Crosby-Crosby
Crosby-Malkin-Crosby

Letang-Crosby
Crosby-Marino
Letang-DeSmith

Jarry
DeSmith/Crosby
- jmatchett383

Sid is a goalie, too!

I refuse to believe Horny couldnt have been dealt without taking back Matheson
- Guile

Do you think he could have been dealt without taking back another big contract?

He could have been dealt elsewhere with an equally bad contract/limited player coming back

GM's can't move anybody anywhere.

Older players like Horn with limited skillsets/deployments making 5.3 Million for 3 more years are toxic assets
- TheGame316

And we ate a 6 year deal in return...

1x1 should be enough
- Rinosaur

I don't want only 1 year. If he plays good all of a sudden he's going to want more money

I'd like to get some security on the position. And he's a center, so teams will likely offer him more than 1 Million just to fill out their roster

I’d like to see Tanev get a shot with Crosby
- stackthepads

No room for Tanev, need to get Crosby out there as much as possible.

And we ate a 6 year deal in return...
- Guile

The years don't matter. We actually have a position in the lineup for Matheson. We didn't have one for Horny. Not in the top 6 and not on the type of 3rd line that GMJR/Sully are wanting to build

I don't want only 1 year. If he plays good all of a sudden he's going to want more money

I'd like to get some security on the position. And he's a center, so teams will likely offer him more than 1 Million just to fill out their roster
- TheGame316

OTOH, if he signs a multi-year deal without a NMC, he'll be subject to the expansion draft. If he signs a one-year deal, he will be a UFA when the ED takes place.

Yep

Offer him 2.5 Million x 2 years and call it a day

He won't be a league minimum guy, but he can still play
- TheGame316

No thanks. Turris is replacement level now and was terrible when not being carried by Craig Smith

Ok, thanks.

So there should be roster room for JR to blow cap space on a sh!tty RD, right?
- MattStrat

Yes there is. The guy I'd target is Koekkoek. Puck moving bottom pairing type that plays either side. Made near league minimum and didn't play a ton, but formed a strong pairing with Maatta at the end of year and playoffs. He'd be a good guy to battle with Ruhwedel and improve depth that wouldn't cost much.

OTOH, if he signs a multi-year deal without a NMC, he'll be subject to the expansion draft. If he signs a one-year deal, he will be a UFA when the ED takes place.
- jmatchett383

True

We give him a nice deal and he balls out, it would be a no brainer for Seattle to take him. No harm no foul I guess though, it would prevent Seattle from taking a different player off of us

The years don't matter. We actually have a position in the lineup for Matheson. We didn't have one for Horny. Not in the top 6 and not on the type of 3rd line that GMJR/Sully are wanting to build
- TheGame316

If Matheson is barely 3rd pairing and can't become 2nd pair worthy... its a beyond stupid move. You can find 3rd pairing Dman for 2 mil or less

Was he not part of that trade? Why take him then?
- Brownsoldier

Toronto was hoping to get ERod to sign for less than his QO. Obviously didn't, but they never paid him a cent so no harm having him included.

True

We give him a nice deal and he balls out, it would be a no brainer for Seattle to take him. No harm no foul I guess though, it would prevent Seattle from taking a different player off of us
- TheGame316

But looking at it from his POV, sign a 1-year deal at like $2M, then next offseason, got for the multi-year deal if you're betting on yourself.

Did the same with JJ lol. He's not an albatross, but I'd rather have the cap space personally.
- 668710

Yeah Sceviour isn't JJ bad or much of a problem. But with all these players coming available for cheap, I'd rather spend the roster spot on someone who might play on the 3rd instead. Lafferty can ably fill that role.

If Matheson is barely 3rd pairing and can't become 2nd pair worthy... its a beyond stupid move. You can find 3rd pairing Dman for 2 mil or less
- Guile

Just as bad as having Horny anchor the 3rd line or or slowing down the 4th line

Matheson has upside still. We exhausted all we could out of Horn. He became a square peg in a round hole

We can also find 3rd line wingers with limited skill sets for 2 million or less