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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
No idea if this is legit but this is interesting





Vegas seems really desperate to shed cap, they've been rumoured to shop Fleury, Martinez, Stastny and Patches

- Nucker101

Desperate for sure. Buyers market big time.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
If JV had the work ethic of a real pro he wouldn't create his own problems & be a drag on the team. He only need look at himself he has had every opportunity if he’d only gets out of his own way.
- Nighthawk


JV took a step this year to his credit but he's still just a 3rd liner who has lots of tools but no desire/clue how to use them.

I was hoping they would get a 2nd rounder for him this year but maybe the rest of the league think that's too steep or Benning isn't ready to cut bait.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 8 @ 4:19 PM ET
Only buyout that helped them was for Ferland so I'm not surprised nothing happened as I'm not even sure if they can buy him out as he might still be on LTIR.

Hopefully Markstrom, Toffoli and Stetcher go to market and realize that they won't get a better deal and sign cheap.

Otherwise I'm okay with signing some cheap UFAs like Gudas, Smith and Griess and hoarding cap space for when other teams get desperate.

- belcherbd

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
Desperate for sure. Buyers market big time.
- Nighthawk


Only if you have cap, I doubt Vegas is that desperate, they were one of the best teams in the league and obviously want to improve but they could do nothing other than clear a bit of Cap and they will still be contenders.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
One word...tampering
- Nighthawk


My one word would have been "Goodbye"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
Nutivarra deal seems shady, it's not like he's overpaid at all like Maatta and he can actually skate unlike Maatta as well. Current Florida GM worked for Columbus as an assistant for years.


Even in this deflated market, I feel like if Nutivarra was a UFA, he'd get around 3-3.5M per year since he's got decent size, can skate, can move the puck, play both sides and play 20 mins a night so to see him moved in a pure dump either means this UFA market is really gonna crash or Columbus just did their old pal a solid.

- Nucker101

Clearing space to go after Hall.

P.s. I wanted Maatta, his underlying numbers for keeping slot shots to a min is very good. Overpaid he is but does what needs to be done.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
JV took a step this year to his credit but he's still just a 3rd liner who has lots of tools but no desire/clue how to use them.

I was hoping they would get a 2nd rounder for him this year but maybe the rest of the league think that's too steep or Benning isn't ready to cut bait.

- belcherbd

Better in a hockey trade than an iffy 2nd imo.

His motivation & motor are very questionable.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
If JV had the work ethic of a real pro he wouldn't create his own problems & be a drag on the team. He only need look at himself he has had every opportunity if he’d only gets out of his own way.
- Nighthawk

I wonder why Beagle isn't a superstar in the league then. He's got the work ethic of a pro.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:27 PM ET
Only if you have cap, I doubt Vegas is that desperate, they were one of the best teams in the league and obviously want to improve but they could do nothing other than clear a bit of Cap and they will still be contenders.
- belcherbd

Understatement that it is that easy.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
I wonder why Beagle isn't a superstar in the league then. He's got the work ethic of a pro.
- manvanfan

He’s got a cup & Jake will never be a star. Jake be lucky to be in the league at Beagles age.
CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:31 PM ET
Be patient - would be happy with somethig like:

JT Petey Maroon
Pearson Bo BB
xx xx xx (Virt, Gaud, Leivo, Rous, etc.)
xx xx xx

OEL Hughes
Edler Gudas
OJ Myers
Benn

Demko
Khudobin/MAF

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
He’s got a cup & Jake will never be a star. Jake be lucky to be in the league at Beagles age.
- Nighthawk

Is that because Beagle wasn't even in the league at Jakes age?

I wonder why Beagle didn't win another cup with Van this year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
JV took a step this year to his credit but he's still just a 3rd liner who has lots of tools but no desire/clue how to use them.

I was hoping they would get a 2nd rounder for him this year but maybe the rest of the league think that's too steep or Benning isn't ready to cut bait.

- belcherbd

So pay him as a 3rd liner and hope he figures it out.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
Gudbranson to Ottawa
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:35 PM ET
Gudbranson to Ottawa
- Retinalz

fora 5th
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
Be patient - would be happy with somethig like:

JT Petey Maroon
Pearson Bo BB
xx xx xx (Virt, Gaud, Leivo, Rous, etc.)
xx xx xx

OEL Hughes
Edler Gudas
OJ Myers
Benn

Demko
Khudobin/MAF

- CoolerHeads


Maroon far too slow for 1st line duty.
I’m cool with Gudas if max 2 years.
Overall if walking from our UFA’s then I see Hoagie in & suffer vets til contracts expire. Someone earlier said 1 step forward 2 back is fine. I can agree with that as long as the fanbase doesn’t go apeshlt as they usually do & exercise no patience. We wouldn't fall back as far as some would believe but a bubble type team has to be understood & accepted.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
Gudbranson to Ottawa
- Retinalz

shambles
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
fora 5th
- manvanfan

If Pearson has another good year and we fall in the standings, I wonder what we could get for him.
Nucknab23
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.13.2016

Oct 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
shambles
- Nucker101

Naaa!!!! They watched TB this year. Fill the right side with big dumb slow. Wins championships.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
If Pearson has another good year and we fall in the standings, I wonder what we could get for him.
- Retinalz

The better question might be would JB be smart enough to part with him?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:39 PM ET
Is that because Beagle wasn't even in the league at Jakes age?

I wonder why Beagle didn't win another cup with Van this year.

- manvanfan

You started the comparison not I lol

JV easily has the talent over Beagle but he wastes it & each year that passes he gets closer to being a footnote on the long list of underachieving flops.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
So pay him as a 3rd liner and hope he figures it out.
- manvanfan

3/1.5m 👍
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
Naaa!!!! They watched TB this year. Fill the right side with big dumb slow. Wins championships.
- manvanfan

Nutivarra for basically free and Gudbranson costs a 5th. Weird league.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 8 @ 4:41 PM ET
fora 5th
- manvanfan

He’s only worth a mickey of vodka. 👍
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