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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 7:52 PM ET
I'm still withholding judgement on this, I don't think he's had much of a choice but to penny pinch for various reasons.

1) Flat cap

2) His previous overpays that no other teams wants to take on limiting his cap flexibility

3) Ownership apparently somewhat limiting the amount of real dollars he can spend this season

4) Expansion draft looming


I think he'd more aggressive and carefree if this was a normal year and he had more financial freedom.

- Nucker101

Exactly, he had no choice.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
The only time I have heard his existence is when JB mentions him.
- pker2theend

Pump and dump
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
I assume he's a good team guy and a hard worker in practice, those guys always get extra love.
- Nucker101



In the playoffs Chatfield was the guy behind OJ as injury replacement D so that's why they have him high now plus being a RSD. They saw Rafferty was not ready D wise to handle NHL forwards. So in a flat cap world his low ELC is attractive even more then a vet signing at around $1M.

They are not getting Stecher back for that little. So whatever they spend on top 4D, they already have Benn's $2M for 6D, not much left over. Chatfield would be pushing Benn for 6RD or as 7th D. This all changes in season with Ferland and LE dealt with allowing for Tryamkin signing.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 9 @ 7:58 PM ET
Brodie would have looked real nice instead of Myers.
- pker2theend


Brodie played good with gio for a bit but the leafs are basically getting the jake gardiner of the western conference ...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
I agree to an extent, however...

- He could have still moved guys out if he wanted to, I'm sure Ottawa would have gladly taken LE for a 1st.

- The expansion draft isn't stopping him from signing players, he just has to be more aware of NMCs. Just a wrinkle for every team right now.

- He didn't sell the farm for OEL, and stood by his limits on Marky, TT, and Tanev (for now)

I'm not saying he's turned into a great GM, and yes he's limited himself in certain aspects, but I think he's gotten to known/learn from those various restrictions and is making smarter choices within them.

- NewYorkNuck


That’s fair. I agree that he had options to create space today at the expense of the future but chose not to, but I still feel that ownership has handcuffed him a bit due to financial uncertainty.

I also forgot to originally mention the looming EP/QH deals as another reason why he’s had to restrain himself.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 9 @ 8:02 PM ET
Brodie played good with gio for a bit but the leafs are basically getting the jake gardiner of the western conference ...
- Redmile247


I’ve seen Flames fans say he’s inconsistent year to year but played pretty well this year. I know Dubas has a hard on for zone exit/entry stats so that’s probably why he tried trading Kadri for him last year and now finally signed him as a UFA

I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as Gardiner is defensively
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:07 PM ET
Over 1400 comments, holy sh!t Carol, ring the bell
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 9 @ 8:09 PM ET
That’s fair. I agree that he had options to create space today at the expense of the future but chose not to, but I still feel that ownership has handcuffed him a bit due to financial uncertainty.

I also forgot to originally mention the looming EP/QH deals as another reason why he’s had to restrain himself.

- Nucker101


You say restrain, I see it as actually GMing for the future a bit more now

I was reading on the Athletic about ownership wanting to keep $$ down this year – they were positing that it's actually useful for the players too. Next next season, if fans come back, the escrow amount can come down off its 20%, and then if they're being paid more in that year they can actually make a bit more money.

But yes, Jim likes to spend. I'm sure if he could have, he would have signed more players.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 9 @ 8:09 PM ET
I’ve seen Flames fans say he’s inconsistent year to year but played pretty well this year. I know Dubas has a hard on for zone exit/entry stats so that’s probably why he tried trading Kadri for him last year and now finally signed him as a UFA

I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as Gardiner is defensively

- Nucker101


Maybe not as bad as jake but Brodie’s best qualities were mainly offensive over defensive.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Oct 9 @ 8:09 PM ET
Over 1400 comments, holy shot Carol, ring the bell
- Pacificgem


Yes, thanks for all the action today. Great to see!

And now, you can migrate over to a new blog. I wanted to see if anything else interesting shook out today before I put fingers to keyboard...

https://hockeybuzz.com/bl...Holtby-signing/194/107836
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:14 PM ET
You say restrain, I see it as actually GMing for the future a bit more now

I was reading on the Athletic about ownership wanting to keep $$ down this year – they were positing that it's actually useful for the players too. Next next season, if fans come back, the escrow amount can come down off its 20%, and then if they're being paid more in that year they can actually make a bit more money.

But yes, Jim likes to spend. I'm sure if he could have, he would have signed more players.

- NewYorkNuck


I could be wrong but I think it is at least as likely if not more likely that revenue is worse the following year when Holtby is owed 5.7. This year they played like 60-70% of games in front of fans. I would guess that number is less next year.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 9 @ 8:16 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think it is at least as likely if not more likely that revenue is worse the following year when Holtby is owed 5.7. This year they played like 60-70% of games in front of fans. I would guess that number is less next year.
- belcherbd


Really? I think the year after this there will be a vaccine and they'll have fans back in the stands. Full season and much more $$
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 9 @ 8:17 PM ET
Brodie played good with gio for a bit but the leafs are basically getting the jake gardiner of the western conference ...
- Redmile247





I'm going to cut and paste this for my dozens of Leaf fan friends on FB
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:17 PM ET
Really? I think the year after this there will be a vaccine and they'll have fans back in the stands. Full season and much more $$
- NewYorkNuck


Possible but I'm sceptical they have fans Jan 1 2021. Perhaps by May.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 9 @ 8:21 PM ET
Possible but I'm sceptical they have fans Jan 1 2021. Perhaps by May.
- belcherbd


I didn't mean this 2020/2021 season, but the 2021/2022 season where Holtby's actual dollars are like 5.8 or whatever.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 9 @ 9:09 PM ET
When do the MTA’s happen?
- Pacificgem

It's complicated.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 9:29 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 9:33 PM ET
It's complicated.
- Marwood

But do you understand it? That's the question lol
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 9 @ 10:50 PM ET
Tanev to calgary

4 years x 4.5 aav
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:16 PM ET
Tanev to calgary

4 years x 4.5 aav

- Codes1087


Weird lol
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