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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:27 PM ET
They should ship Sceviour out for a 7th. Leave them with like 3.8 mill space. There's quality players to be had for less than that. Theres a crazy amount of quality players not signed right now.... And Jack Fn Johnson is hahaha
- MattStrat

Yea blows my mind JJ got signed.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
Yea blows my mind JJ got signed.
- 668710


And for more than the league minimum
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 9 @ 10:54 PM ET
Friedman and LeBrun have Tanev to Calgary. Dodged one there. Now JR has no choice but to spend our remaining cap on forwards!
DaPenz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Conway, SC
Joined: 03.02.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:59 PM ET
I guess JR decided to get low cost guys who won't score rather than high priced guys who won't score.

12 losses out of 13?

Likely
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:59 PM ET
(frank), I hate that Justin Schultz is on the Caps. What the (frank).
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 9 @ 11:01 PM ET
(frank), I hate that Justin Schultz is on the Caps. What the (frank).
- Blackstrom2

Cry about it.

Welcome to post-Cup bad decisions.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:02 PM ET
Cry about it.

Welcome to post-Cup bad decisions.

- Victoro311


It's karma for harping on JJ as much as I did.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Oct 9 @ 11:15 PM ET
Yea blows my mind JJ got signed.
- 668710

He just needs a change of scenery.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 9 @ 11:24 PM ET
So, + or - on which ex pens have a bounce back (or better than when with us) season?

JJ
MM
Schultz
Bjug
Horny
Simon
Fleury
Derrick Pouliot (flyers)
Derrick Grant

Watch JJ and MM absolutely light it up hahaha. Honestly though I could see MM doing well depending on Ottawa’s D. Maybe a couple years from now. Schultz/Horny in the right deployment.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 9 @ 11:28 PM ET
So, + or - on which ex pens have a bounce back (or better than when with us) season?

JJ
MM
Schultz
Bjug
Horny
Simon
Fleury
Derrick Pouliot (flyers)
Derrick Grant

Watch JJ and MM absolutely light it up hahaha. Honestly though I could see MM doing well depending on Ottawa’s D. Maybe a couple years from now. Schultz/Horny in the right deployment.

- 10inchTerror

Bjugs, if he plays and scores some goals that's already better than with us haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 9 @ 11:28 PM ET
He just needs a change of scenery.
- Hockey66

Lol
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 9 @ 11:35 PM ET
Bjugs, if he plays and scores some goals that's already better than with us haha.
- 668710


You could of stopped at ‘if he plays’ haha
MaxHyjinx
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2018

Oct 9 @ 11:46 PM ET
So, + or - on which ex pens have a bounce back (or better than when with us) season?

JJ
MM
Schultz
Bjug
Horny
Simon
Fleury
Derrick Pouliot (flyers)
Derrick Grant

Watch JJ and MM absolutely light it up hahaha. Honestly though I could see MM doing well depending on Ottawa’s D. Maybe a couple years from now. Schultz/Horny in the right deployment.

- 10inchTerror


I’m going with Murray. I think the change of scenery will do him wonders, plus he might feel less pressure since he doesn’t have to look over his shoulder. He should be the clear number one in Ottawa.

I’m honestly rooting for him to turn it around.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:21 AM ET
I’m going with Murray. I think the change of scenery will do him wonders, plus he might feel less pressure since he doesn’t have to look over his shoulder. He should be the clear number one in Ottawa.

I’m honestly rooting for him to turn it around.

- MaxHyjinx


He was the clear #1 here, then he lost the net, twice.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:38 AM ET
It's karma for harping on JJ as much as I did.
- Blackstrom2


At least he's staying in the division.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 10 @ 3:42 AM ET
It's karma for harping on JJ as much as I did.
- Blackstrom2

At least with Schultz it’s possible that he was bad last year due to injuries and bad this year due to Johnson. I think the reality is that he’s a limited player past his prime, but at least it’s possible he still has NHL games left in him. You could be the Rangers who just hired a mediocre assistant coach and for whatever reason decided to bring in his pet ECHLer to help him settle in.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 10 @ 4:46 AM ET
Newborn insomnia lead me to do some late night CapFriendly. We can actually fit T. Johnson under the cap by sending out Sceviour and sending Jankowski and one of Lafferty or ERod down. Would only have $150k left in cap space with no spare forward so not sure it works in practice even if it technically works on paper, but I wonder if the combo of trading out Sceviour and Riikola and LTIR’ing ZAR could get us to a workable cap situation to pick up Johnson off waivers.
DaPenz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Conway, SC
Joined: 03.02.2009

Oct 10 @ 5:13 AM ET
Get Tampa to retain 1.5/yr.
Maybe give them Legare.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 10 @ 5:57 AM ET
So, + or - on which ex pens have a bounce back (or better than when with us) season?

JJ
MM
Schultz
Bjug
Horny
Simon
Fleury
Derrick Pouliot (flyers)
Derrick Grant

Watch JJ and MM absolutely light it up hahaha. Honestly though I could see MM doing well depending on Ottawa’s D. Maybe a couple years from now. Schultz/Horny in the right deployment.

- 10inchTerror

MM- he needed to go somewhere else where hopefully the goalie coach gets through to him

Bjugatad- if semi-healthy he's pretty good

Hornqvist- maybe gets back on top PP
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 10 @ 6:42 AM ET
Newborn insomnia lead me to do some late night CapFriendly. We can actually fit T. Johnson under the cap by sending out Sceviour and sending Jankowski and one of Lafferty or ERod down. Would only have $150k left in cap space with no spare forward so not sure it works in practice even if it technically works on paper, but I wonder if the combo of trading out Sceviour and Riikola and LTIR’ing ZAR could get us to a workable cap situation to pick up Johnson off waivers.
- Victoro311


Congrats bud! So awesome. Youll start getting half normal sleep again after 2 or 3 months haha
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Oct 10 @ 6:56 AM ET
I have to say, I like to really like most of the moves so far this off-season. My only two quibbles are the Horny trade and I would have bought out instead of retained with Bjug for an extra $1.5M this year.

We definitely lacked center depth so I like the moves for Jankowski and ERod.

Still lots of big names out there, and good players that will probably go cheap. I wish we had more cap to be players, but I don't see any moves to gain cap space.

What a strange year. Not a lot of big names signed on day 1 and a lot of bargain contracts handed out (and some head-scratchers).

I still think there is 1 more move to be made, hopefully for a player we have discussed.

FLA and NSH have done pretty well, IMO. CGY didn't get the memo about a flat cap apparently.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Oct 10 @ 7:32 AM ET
So, + or - on which ex pens have a bounce back (or better than when with us) season?

JJ
MM
Schultz
Bjug
Horny
Simon
Fleury
Derrick Pouliot (flyers)
Derrick Grant

Watch JJ and MM absolutely light it up hahaha. Honestly though I could see MM doing well depending on Ottawa’s D. Maybe a couple years from now. Schultz/Horny in the right deployment.

- 10inchTerror


Hornqvist will have the best season but that isn't the question. My guess would be Bjugstad, even if he is just somewhat healthy that is a big improvement. None of the others move the needle for me.
MaxHyjinx
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2018

Oct 10 @ 7:43 AM ET
He was the clear #1 here, then he lost the net, twice.
- Thorny


I see your point. He was the #1 and had all the chances in the world to remain the starter and lost it on his own merits.

My point was that it’s not like he had scrubs behind him and probably knew that if he struggled he could be replaced, especially by his all star back up.

That being said, I suppose you could say that about any goaltender so it’s still a fair point that he lost the crease because of his own play just as much as Jarry’s.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Oct 10 @ 7:54 AM ET
So how much cap space do we have? About $4.5M? That's enough to get a pretty good player in this market.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 10 @ 8:04 AM ET
You could of stopped at ‘if he plays’ haha
- 10inchTerror

Hahaha true
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