Vegas gave up two second-round picks to get Martinez. Also, there were several posters on this board that wanted Martinex when he became available. I believe Rexy was one of them . One year is all Jets really for a defenseman before both Heinola and Sanberg will be ready.

That all being said I personally have never been a big Martinez fan. I prefer a Dman with more offense. He'd be great on the PK though, fantastic shot-blocker. If a deal were to be done then with Roslovic as an RFA vs Martinez and upcoming UFA , I might want additional compensation conditional on Roslovic signing. It doesn't make sense to me that Vegas would want Roslovic though.

I'd take Nate Schmidt though, its better he improves the Jets rather than a divisional rival.
- jetsnation

You couldn't just answer the question simply eh, who cares what Vegas gave to get Martinez or who else on here wanted the Jets to get him.
Trading a good young forward who you have control of for at least four more seasons for a UFA dman cause you have D prospects in the pipeline is the epitome of bad asset management and poor forward thinking.

Of course Vegas would want Roslovic, they can see a very good young player who's being stifled in Winnipeg being put with plug linemates and in a system that'll never work, he'll flourish in Vegas and they'll sign him to a cheap bridge deal and get great value out of him for the length of his bridge deal, Vegas gets the most out of players, Winnipeg stifles them.

Yeah trading Roslovic for Schmidt would be fine, Schmidt is signed for awhile so it's worth it but that wasn't who I asked about, it was Martinez who's a UFA.
I stand by what I said, if Chevy trades Roslovic one for one for Martinez he needs to fired!

You couldn't just answer the question simply eh, who cares what Vegas gave to get Martinez or who else on here wanted the Jets to get him.
Trading a good young forward who you have control of for at least four more seasons for a UFA dman cause you have D prospects in the pipeline is the epitome of bad asset management and poor forward thinking.

Of course Vegas would want Roslovic, they can see a very good young player who's being stifled in Winnipeg being put with plug linemates and in a system that'll never work, he'll flourish in Vegas and they'll sign him to a cheap bridge deal and get great value out of him for the length of his bridge deal, Vegas gets the most out of players, Winnipeg stifles them.

Yeah trading Roslovic for Schmidt would be fine, Schmidt is signed for awhile so it's worth it but that wasn't who I asked about, it was Martinez who's a UFA.
I stand by what I said, if Chevy trades Roslovic one for one for Martinez he needs to fired!
- JetFuel

Let's reverse the question. What AAV do you think Jack Roslovic will get for a 4 year contract ? $4MM per.....$5 MM per ?

Let's reverse the question. What AAV do you think Jack Roslovic will get for a 4 year contract ? $4MM per.....$5 MM per ?
- jetsnation

Well he's looking at a 2 year bridge deal more then likely but for four years he's getting $2.75M at the very most.
I think he's getting a 2 year bridge deal at about $1.65-2.25M.

If Chevy can pull off a trade for an asset we need vs an asset like Roslovic (which we really don't need) then all the power to him. If it ends up being Vegas then that's fine we me .

The one thing for certain is that if they sign Petriangelo then Vegas will still make whatever trade they need to free up space , with us or some other NHL team. This concept that we are helping Vegas is a completely ridiculous argument in so many ways. Do you think any Vegas fan is complaining that the Jets look like a much-improved team with Stastny centering our second line ? Vegas basically got nothing for him. Jets were the one that took advantage.

The Jets have several assets that have become expendable and Roslovic and Niku now top that list.
- jetsnation

I think this post has press release written all over it!

If Chevy can pull off a trade for an asset we need vs an asset like Roslovic (which we really don't need) then all the power to him. If it ends up being Vegas then that's fine we me .

The one thing for certain is that if they sign Petriangelo then Vegas will still make whatever trade they need to free up space , with us or some other NHL team. This concept that we are helping Vegas is a completely ridiculous argument in so many ways. Do you think any Vegas fan is complaining that the Jets look like a much-improved team with Stastny centering our second line ? Vegas basically got nothing for him. Jets were the one that took advantage.

The Jets have several assets that have become expendable and Roslovic and Niku now top that list.
- jetsnation

Here is your quote Jetsnation from the last blog page 3 on friday 8:13 AM


We would be doing Vegas a favor in helping them unload Statsny's salary. Either Vegas eats some salary or we get something more.,,,,maybe a pick. Much like when we traded Mason.

Here is your quote Jetsnation from the last blog page 3 on friday 8:13 AM


We would be doing Vegas a favor in helping them unload Statsny's salary. Either Vegas eats some salary or we get something more.,,,,maybe a pick. Much like when we traded Mason.

- BWJumper

What is your point here ? Vegas ate a salary just like I said they would. We got rid of Dahlstrom's $850k in salary.We didn't need him. Vegas didn't need him and according to blogs they are sending him to the AHL. We effectively got Statsny for $5.65 MM . I call that a win.

What is your point here ? Vegas ate a salary just like I said they would. We got rid of Dahlstrom's $850k in salary.We didn't need him. Vegas didn't need him and according to blogs they are sending him to the AHL. We effectively got Statsny for $5.65 MM . I call that a win.
- jetsnation

LOL... Too funny, the Jets coud just of easily sent Dahlstrom to the minors which would of effectively buried the majority of his cap hit giving almost full cap relief from Dahlstrom, let's not kid ourselves into thinking the Knights taking Dahlstrom is the equivalent of them eating $850K of Stastny's contract cause it most certainly isn't.
If they keep Dahlstrom he's $50K more then what Sbisa signed for and $150K less then what Forbort signed for.
No one was calling for Stastny but Chevy and Chevy got played like a fiddle and paid Vegas for another one of their problems just like he did in the Eakin trade, period.

Well he's looking at a 2 year bridge deal more then likely but for four years he's getting $2.75M at the very most.
I think he's getting a 2 year bridge deal at about $1.65-2.25M.
- JetFuel

I'll say $2.5 MM on a two-year bridge. Tuch has similar stats with way more ice time vs Roslovic and gets $4.75 . However, its a cap crunched Covid world so salaries are down. How does Vegas afford a player they don't really need ( they are loaded at forward ). They already need to dump Fleury and eat salary as well as another $4-$5 Mm forward or D.

How does Winnipeg really afford him either when he is just depth? Roslovic needs to go to a team rebuilding like Ottawa, Anaheim, LAK , etc where he can play and his salary makes sense.

I think Roslovic thinks he is worth more than Chevy wants to pay and he might actually be a bit of a tough sell as an RFA unless it's to the right team. I personally like Roslovic. The guy is in amazing shape and still has upside but the reality of his situation is definitely not in his favour right now. There is really no room for him Hopefully, Chevy can find the right deal for him.

I always like how you standby the company rhetoric! Further to this, I would love to see Chevy actually make a trade for someone that refuses to waive their NMC. This will confirm your theories.

As far as taxes go in the USA, I would much rather live in a country where we take care of our sick based on sickness rather than the size of their wallets. I am also sure those lower taxes are leading to much of the civil unrest taking place in the USA, as the disparities between rich and poor are becoming more pronounced.
- TheUltimateJet

Did you even read the articles that he sourced for you? You were accusing him of rhetoric and the person most guilty of rhetoric on this whole board is ultimate. Many of your posts drip with rhetoric and repeated sayings that I presume you think are funny but really weren’t worth saying more than once.

I agree with jet station that Chevy has been an excellent GM for this market because of his steady hand and foresight. He has worked hard to make Winnipeg the classy organization that players can trust.

While Chevy might be concerned about being classy, I am not concerned about being classy... so I’ll say it- The more you post the more I think you’re an idiot.

I'll say $2.5 MM on a two-year bridge. Tuch has similar stats with way more ice time vs Roslovic and gets $4.75 . However, its a cap crunched Covid world so salaries are down. How does Vegas afford a player they don't really need ( they are loaded at forward ). They already need to dump Fleury and eat salary as well as another $4-$5 Mm forward or D.

How does Winnipeg really afford him either when he is just depth? Roslovic needs to go to a team rebuilding like Ottawa, Anaheim, LAK , etc where he can play and his salary makes sense.

I think Roslovic thinks he is worth more than Chevy wants to pay and he might actually be a bit of a tough sell as an RFA unless it's to the right team. I personally like Roslovic. The guy is in amazing shape and still has upside but the reality of his situation is definitely not in his favour right now. There is really no room for him Hopefully, Chevy can find the right deal for him.
- jetsnation

You have some weird takes, Roslovic was this teams 6th highest scoring forward this past season and he's easily a 3rd line player with top 6 potential and having a better 3rd line is what most good teams want don't they? He's a spare center if needed so he offers some versatility, he was on pace for a 33 point season and with steady linemates and deployment I'm pretty sure he'd easily be a 35-45 point player this upcoming season which is exactly what the Jets need. I think your guess of $2.5M×2 years is about right and if so why would the Jets want to trade that??? This team is paying Lowry and Perreault more than that to produce less! That's about what Copp makes and he doesn't produce anymore then Roslovic does and Roslovic still has room to grow, Copp has peaked, he is what he is. If this trade happens I'm sure Vegas will fit him in or trade him in another deal, I have no idea why you're so hung up on why Vegas would want him, they're a well run team that wants Roslovic apparently, shouldn't that indicate that he's not something to be tossed away for an old UFA dman like Martinez??!
I can only hope Chevy sees the value in Roslovic that you clearly don't.

What is your point here ? Vegas ate a salary just like I said they would. We got rid of Dahlstrom's $850k in salary.We didn't need him. Vegas didn't need him and according to blogs they are sending him to the AHL. We effectively got Statsny for $5.65 MM . I call that a win.
- jetsnation

I love it. According to you taking on the whole contract of Stastny is a favour, but because the Jets ended up paying 850K less it is not.

Vegas gave up two second-round picks to get Martinez. Also, there were several posters on this board that wanted Martinex when he became available. I believe Rexy was one of them . One year is all Jets really for a defenseman before both Heinola and Sanberg will be ready.

That all being said I personally have never been a big Martinez fan. I prefer a Dman with more offense. He'd be great on the PK though, fantastic shot-blocker. If a deal were to be done then with Roslovic as an RFA vs Martinez and upcoming UFA , I might want additional compensation conditional on Roslovic signing. It doesn't make sense to me that Vegas would want Roslovic though.

I'd take Nate Schmidt though, its better he improves the Jets rather than a divisional rival.
- jetsnation

I said I owned a Martinez jersey, but said I didn’t want him. He’s oooold

You have some weird takes, Roslovic was this teams 6th highest scoring forward this past season and he's easily a 3rd line player with top 6 potential and having a better 3rd line is what most good teams want don't they? He's a spare center if needed so he offers some versatility, he was on pace for a 33 point season and with steady linemates and deployment I'm pretty sure he'd easily be a 35-45 point player this upcoming season which is exactly what the Jets need. I think your guess of $2.5M×2 years is about right and if so why would the Jets want to trade that??? This team is paying Lowry and Perreault more than that to produce less! That's about what Copp makes and he doesn't produce anymore then Roslovic does and Roslovic still has room to grow, Copp has peaked, he is what he is. If this trade happens I'm sure Vegas will fit him in or trade him in another deal, I have no idea why you're so hung up on why Vegas would want him, they're a well run team that wants Roslovic apparently, shouldn't that indicate that he's not something to be tossed away for an old UFA dman like Martinez??!
I can only hope Chevy sees the value in Roslovic that you clearly don't.
- JetFuel

Roslovic may be of great importance to the Jets, also, if they are committed (and close) to trading Patrik Laine still. Although, rumor has it that Roslovic still wants a new opportunity elsewhere, so that may put him higher on the trade list to fill needs on defense. (Agree, though, don't sell LOW on him)

But perhaps with Laine traded he'll be given more of a role to contribute offensively. (?) Of course, Perreault and Stastny are UFA after this season, and it would surprise no one if Little retired, so he and the Jets do have that to consider.

You have some weird takes, Roslovic was this teams 6th highest scoring forward this past season and he's easily a 3rd line player with top 6 potential and having a better 3rd line is what most good teams want don't they? He's a spare center if needed so he offers some versatility, he was on pace for a 33 point season and with steady linemates and deployment I'm pretty sure he'd easily be a 35-45 point player this upcoming season which is exactly what the Jets need. I think your guess of $2.5M×2 years is about right and if so why would the Jets want to trade that??? This team is paying Lowry and Perreault more than that to produce less! That's about what Copp makes and he doesn't produce anymore then Roslovic does and Roslovic still has room to grow, Copp has peaked, he is what he is. If this trade happens I'm sure Vegas will fit him in or trade him in another deal, I have no idea why you're so hung up on why Vegas would want him, they're a well run team that wants Roslovic apparently, shouldn't that indicate that he's not something to be tossed away for an old UFA dman like Martinez??!
I can only hope Chevy sees the value in Roslovic that you clearly don't.
- JetFuel

Do you even read what I wrote? I have always said I like Roslovic. I think he is the near equivalent of Tuch. I said that him being traded to Vegas makes no sense for Vegas , they are loaded at forward, so I don't see how you think I'm "hung up " on him being traded there. Everyone on here knows I have been no fan of Perreault for the last 2-3 years and wanted to see him traded. The only thing I've stated is that with the current lineup and his RFA status, and what appears to be excess demands to be traded or played on top two lines, he is a good bet to get moved for an asset we need. Same with Niku. Roslovic is beginning to appear to be a Trouba 2.0 situation.

Did you even read the articles that he sourced for you? You were accusing him of rhetoric and the person most guilty of rhetoric on this whole board is ultimate. Many of your posts drip with rhetoric and repeated sayings that I presume you think are funny but really weren’t worth saying more than once.

I agree with jet station that Chevy has been an excellent GM for this market because of his steady hand and foresight. He has worked hard to make Winnipeg the classy organization that players can trust.

While Chevy might be concerned about being classy, I am not concerned about being classy... so I’ll say it- The more you post the more I think you’re an idiot.
- 2.0

Thanks 2.0. Yes, Ultimate has definitely degenerated himself to the village idiot on this board. He not only bashes on this board, but also bashes the Jets organization on other boards. If Chevy worked out a deal for Alex Lafreniere, I'm sure Ultimate would find something wrong with it . Sad !

Did you even read the articles that he sourced for you? You were accusing him of rhetoric and the person most guilty of rhetoric on this whole board is ultimate. Many of your posts drip with rhetoric and repeated sayings that I presume you think are funny but really weren’t worth saying more than once.

I agree with jet station that Chevy has been an excellent GM for this market because of his steady hand and foresight. He has worked hard to make Winnipeg the classy organization that players can trust.

While Chevy might be concerned about being classy, I am not concerned about being classy... so I’ll say it- The more you post the more I think you’re an idiot.
- 2.0

Totally agree. The herlihy boy of HB asking question after question dripping with rhetoric, insinuations of racism, a true troll sucking in posters to respond to this nonsense

I still read HB but just skip over troll posts like U jerk. But, I would be po'd as well if chevy slept with my wife, lol.

Totally agree. The herlihy boy of HB asking question after question dripping with rhetoric, insinuations of racism, a true troll sucking in posters to respond to this nonsense

I still read HB but just skip over troll posts like U jerk. But, I would be po'd as well if chevy slept with my wife, lol.
- CharlieDog

I was not going to respond to this but thought I would clear the air.

On this board I have never called anyone names like Jetsnation and CharlieDog just did. I have never called anyone a "jerk", "village idiot" or a "racist". This to demonstrates classiness. I do not think calling anyone names is right. Go back and read all my comments, I have never said a personal attack on any other poster on this board.

I do like to play on the fact that some people believe anything that the media and the organization tells them. Which to me is me is very funny. I like to provide an critical viewpoint on the happenings in the Jets organizations, with a little Ultimate humour. If this is offensive to some, I apologize.

Furthermore, CharlieDog, the question I believe I asked back in February before being labelled a racist was: how come a disproportionate number of coloured players get labels as having issues in the NHL. It was a simple question that got me labelled as calling people racist.

Anyhow, keep it classy!

Do you even read what I wrote? I have always said I like Roslovic. I think he is the near equivalent of Tuch. I said that him being traded to Vegas makes no sense for Vegas , they are loaded at forward, so I don't see how you think I'm "hung up " on him being traded there. Everyone on here knows I have been no fan of Perreault for the last 2-3 years and wanted to see him traded. The only thing I've stated is that with the current lineup and his RFA status, and what appears to be excess demands to be traded or played on top two lines, he is a good bet to get moved for an asset we need. Same with Niku. Roslovic is beginning to appear to be a Trouba 2.0 situation.
- jetsnation

Yes I read what you wrote and I responded pretty clearly, you do seem pretty hung up on why Vegas would want Roslovic and/or how they could fit him in and there's a few different answers to that and I gave you some of them but one is that they probably can't find anyone to take Fleury so they're going to maybe have to move Schmidt and/or Martinez but they could also move one of Smith or Marchessault then move Tuch into the top 6 and then Roslo would be a nice cheap 3rd line player for them.

I don't know what Perreault has to do with this discussion, he's a cap dump and would cost assets to move like that gawd awful Mason trade which cost Armia and two draft picks which was to try and sign Stastny, no thanks,
don't need another one of those even if Perreault isn't the player he once was.

Also you seem hung up on Roslovic has no fit here anymore and how can the Jets afford him and I responded how do they not fit and afford him at only $2M for a couple year bridge deal
I said good teams have better depth players so why should the Jets trade one away for a rental which was where this whole discussion started.
I have no idea what Roslovic's contract ask is, I also wouldn't be surprised if he does want out cause of his usage which seems to be a big trend for many Jets players, are we noticing a pattern/problem yet??? I doubt he has a demand to play on the top two lines, he probably knows if he's stuck with the two stonehands on line 3 his
career isn't going anywhere and his earning potential will be stifled, he's also not stupid, he can see Maurice's tendencies so he knows nothing is changing so best if he can move on to another team and I wouldn't blame him if that's the case.

My original point in this whole discussion was I'm not opposed to trading Roslovic if it's for Schmidt but if it's for Martinez then it's a terrible trade for the Jets and Chevy should be fired for trading Roslovic for an old UFA dman and I stand by that, trading an asset like Roslovic for a rental is just more bad asset management, a team that struggles to attract better UFA's and is tops on most no trade lists which you've pointed out on here before should NOT be squandering good assets for rentals like Chevy has done too many times already but go ahead and tell me I'm wrong and that Chevy is doing a wonderful job considering the circumstances of being in Winnipeg and the draft and develop plan is working blah blah blah...

Food (Turkey leftovers) for Thought

Winning the AHL Best D-Man award is not any guarantee of NHL success. The last 5 winners have been:Bean, Redmond, Niku, Taormina, Brennan. TJ Brennan actually won it twice and that has got him 53 games in the show.

Coaches are paid to win games and cups. I assume that if the coach felt that a player would help accomplish that, he would be playing ahead of someone who wasn't helping the cause.

Roslovic is/was not going to take a spot away from Wheeler, Laine, Connor, Ehlers, Schiefele, or Little. 3rd liner at best on the Jets. Maybe Jack should accept his role and try to perfect it. A lot of hot-shot scorers come to the NHL from Junior or College and find themselves unable to crack the top 2 lines. Some adapt, some don't.

There must be a trade brewing with Chevy....we now have too many LHD's under contract.

Totally agree. The herlihy boy of HB asking question after question dripping with rhetoric, insinuations of racism, a true troll sucking in posters to respond to this nonsense

I still read HB but just skip over troll posts like U jerk. But, I would be po'd as well if chevy slept with my wife, lol.
- CharlieDog

Thanks. Charlie. My mistake was responding to him. Unfortunately, HB has no. ignore button or I'd use it. I'll just also skip over Ultimate's posts from now on .

Food (Turkey leftovers) for Thought

Winning the AHL Best D-Man award is not any guarantee of NHL success. The last 5 winners have been:Bean, Redmond, Niku, Taormina, Brennan. TJ Brennan actually won it twice and that has got him 53 games in the show.

Coaches are paid to win games and cups. I assume that if the coach felt that a player would help accomplish that, he would be playing ahead of someone who wasn't helping the cause.

Roslovic is/was not going to take a spot away from Wheeler, Laine, Connor, Ehlers, Schiefele, or Little. 3rd liner at best on the Jets. Maybe Jack should accept his role and try to perfect it. A lot of hot-shot scorers come to the NHL from Junior or College and find themselves unable to crack the top 2 lines. Some adapt, some don't.

There must be a trade brewing with Chevy....we now have too many LHD's under contract.
- bennythehat

Well said Benny. I'm not sure how some others don't see it. Sometimes assets need to be moved both for the sake of the franchise and for the player, even some promising ones

Thanks. Charlie. My mistake was responding to him. Unfortunately, HB has no. ignore button or I'd use it. I'll just also skip over Ultimate's posts from now on .
- jetsnation

Aww man, I am really going to miss getting the company position on some of my questions.

I think Samberg and Heinola could each benefit from one season in the AHL. Heinola is still very small, and used to international ice. Samberg is used to 28 game NCAA seasons, and this will be a massive change for the guy. These kids could really benefit with big TOI in the AHL. Niku will get his chance to make the team, and this really will be a make-or-break season for the AHL stud. Injuries happen and slots will certainly open up.

Jomo Pionk
Sbisa Demelo
Niku/Beauliu Poolman
- bikeguy99

Why do the Jets always over ripen all their prospect past the time they're ready? Other rookies come into the league and make rookie mistakes but play to a high level. Samberg. Niku and Henola should be on the roster as they have to be better than Sbiza, Beaulieu and Forbort. Its Maurice and his love for old washed up players that will keep the young d-men off the roster. Maurice is ruining the Jets. Due to the weak defense last season Maurice has bought himself another 1/2 years.

Why do the Jets always over ripen all their prospect past the time they're ready? Other rookies come into the league and make rookie mistakes but play to a high level. Samberg. Niku and Henola should be on the roster as they have to be better than Sbiza, Beaulieu and Forbort. Its Maurice and his love for old washed up players that will keep the young d-men off the roster. Maurice is ruining the Jets. Due to the weak defense last season Maurice has bought himself another 1/2 years.
- islansjet

This is the million dollar question. If I ask it, I get called an idiot or a jerk. Or I get backhanded compliments about Chevy finding my wife attractive, which she is. The most important thing I learned this morning is that my wife is hot. If A celebrity like Chevy found her hot, hoo boy, I really hit that one out of the ballpark.

I was not going to respond to this but thought I would clear the air.

On this board I have never called anyone names like Jetsnation and CharlieDog just did. I have never called anyone a "jerk", "village idiot" or a "racist". This to demonstrates classiness. I do not think calling anyone names is right. Go back and read all my comments, I have never said a personal attack on any other poster on this board.

I do like to play on the fact that some people believe anything that the media and the organization tells them. Which to me is me is very funny. I like to provide an critical viewpoint on the happenings in the Jets organizations, with a little Ultimate humour. If this is offensive to some, I apologize.

Furthermore, CharlieDog, the question I believe I asked back in February before being labelled a racist was: how come a disproportionate number of coloured players get labels as having issues in the NHL. It was a simple question that got me labelled as calling people racist.

Anyhow, keep it classy!
- TheUltimateJet

Those guys want an echo chamber. Although I do love the idea of jetsnation calling you the bullishness idiot while his comments are structured exactly the same way as a Donald Trump tweet. Sad !