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TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
Next season is the problem... we should have signed him and traded Boeser for a RHD
- Pres.cup


This This 100x This

Its called asset management

Even if you can't add cap, You sign a guy like Toffoli to a tremendous value contract, and trade a guy like Boeser to make it work for another valuable asset

That way you get 2 assets for one
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
one last (frank) you to Brackett on the way out the door

I think it’s clear that ownership isn’t letting him sign most players for more than 1 or 2 years. I doubt Benning himself has gone from being the guy known around the league for always giving UFA’s that extra year/NTC/500K to suddenly only offering 1-2 year contracts to quality UFA’s.

- Nucker101

Sounds quite reasonable. There is something not quite right. Smells like FA meddling controlling the purse strings. Winning took a back seat.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 2:51 PM ET
Next season is the problem... we should have signed him and traded Boeser for a RHD
- Pres.cup



It's clear we don't need RHD, we have OJ. Benning say's he's ready.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 2:52 PM ET
Sounds quite reasonable. There is something not quite right. Smells like FA meddling controlling the purse strings. Winning took a back seat.
- Nighthawk


Nailed it.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 12 @ 2:52 PM ET
It's clear now Benning just wanted to get rid of Madden & the 2nd round pick.
- VanHockeyGuy


phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Oct 12 @ 2:53 PM ET
If the team struggles during the season and he trades picks/prospects for a rental or 2 then even Benning fans will turn on him

We’ll see though, I’m still expecting a move here to add a RHD

- Nucker101



Im expecting a desperation signing of Hamonic for way to much money and term.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 2:54 PM ET
Im expecting a desperation signing of Hamonic for way to much money and term.
- phyllee


6X6 NTC.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Oct 12 @ 2:55 PM ET
6X6 NTC.
- VanHockeyGuy


And the season starts in a bubble like thing and he refuses to play, again
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 12 @ 2:55 PM ET
Sounds quite reasonable. There is something not quite right. Smells like FA meddling controlling the purse strings. Winning took a back seat.
- Nighthawk


Seems like Linden was the one that should have stuck around....
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 2:55 PM ET
Im expecting a desperation signing of Hamonic for way to much money and term.
- phyllee


Hoffman and Sami Vatanen would probably get the villagers to put away the pitchforks
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Oct 12 @ 2:59 PM ET
From bubble team, to playoff nuisance, to bottom 5 league wide in the span of two months of the league resuming.

Jesus christ.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 3:00 PM ET
Hopefully this makes everyone feel better...


Grady Sas
@GradySas
Probably a good day to remind #Canucks fans that Jim Benning is paying Eriksson, Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Ferland, Myers & Benn $27,875,000 a season. #Canucks
11:14 AM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
Toffoli not to smart paying Quebec taxes.
Was he desperate or nobody offered term?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 3:02 PM ET
Toffoli not to smart paying Quebec taxes.
Was he desperate or nobody offered term?

- Nighthawk


Likely both. Maybe no one wanted to go that 4th year or they offered a 4th year at a steep discount of 3.5M
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 12 @ 3:04 PM ET
Likely both. Maybe no one wanted to go that 4th year or they offered a 4th year at a steep discount of 3.5M
- Nucker101

I said 3/4.75m wonder what JB offered my guess is 2years.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:05 PM ET
I tend to give JB the benefit of the doubt, but fuuuucckkkkk that. That’s a great contract. Could have easily fit under the cap. Back on the fire JB train
- NewYorkNuck

(frank) that. I love that Benning makes most fans cry
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:06 PM ET
Hopefully this makes everyone feel better...


Grady Sas
@GradySas
Probably a good day to remind #Canucks fans that Jim Benning is paying Eriksson, Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Ferland, Myers & Benn $27,875,000 a season. #Canucks
11:14 AM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

- VanHockeyGuy


Gross.... just gross.

Does anyone in here realize that minor has been fighting the last couple.

Everyone is getting along and debating civilly.

I wonder what's different right now, something is missing and I for one, don't miss it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Internal cap makes theory way less sense than FA limiting Benning due to lack of trust


OEL gets paid a poop load in real dollars and they were in on him. They offered Barrie 5M, they offered Marky and Tanev deals with decent money but again less term.

Either ownership doesn’t trust JB’s long term contracts or something else is up
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
Im expecting a desperation signing of Hamonic for way to much money and term.
- phyllee

That what everyone keeps saying but yet, all offers are 1 or 2 years. Bs
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Oct 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
That seems like a more than fair deal. To give up that much and not be willing to sign a guy for 4.25 mil when he over achieved on your team (only 17 games). I agree it makes no sense. Benning has to be hand cuffed right now on giving out longer contracts due to covid and financials.

FA is in the hospitality business and is prob losing a poop ton of $ and no idea when it will come back.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:10 PM ET
Internal cap makes theory way less sense than FA limiting Benning due to lack of trust


OEL gets paid a poop load in real dollars and they were in on him. They offered Barrie 5M, they offered Marky and Tanev deals with decent money but again less term.

Either ownership doesn’t trust JB’s long term contracts or something else is up

- Nucker101

If I was Aquilini I wouldn’t shell out term in the middle of a pandemic and no fans in the stands. Smart. Although I do wonder why they wouldn’t sell a few assets and do a reset in a few years
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
That seems like a more than fair deal. To give up that much and not be willing to sign a guy for 4.25 mil when he over achieved on your team (only 17 games). I agree it makes no sense. Benning has to be hand cuffed right now on giving out longer contracts due to covid and financials.

FA is in the hospitality business and is prob losing a poop ton of $ and no idea when it will come back.

- canucksfan1944


Yet they were in on OEL making 8M next year and then 10.5M in real dollars during the 3 years following.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Oct 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yet they were in on OEL making 8M next year and then 10.5M in real dollars during the 3 years following.
- Nucker101


I mean we don’t know the details. Maybe they only offered a deal where AZ took back money and that’s why it fell through.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
I mean we don’t know the details. Maybe they only offered a deal where AZ took back money and that’s why it fell through.
- canucksfan1944


Then that defeats the purpose for a cash-strapped team like the Yotes. They wanted to shed a decent chunk of real dollars so I doubt more than 1 cap dump was involved. Even most of the leaks suggested this. I doubt they were taking on anything close to 10.5M per year in real dollars back.

Unless things change, so far this all screams like ownership meddling due to lack of faith in the GM
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Oct 12 @ 3:15 PM ET
Then that defeats the purpose for a cash-strapped team like the Yotes. They wanted to shed a decent chunk of real dollars so I doubt more than 1 cap dump was involved. Even most of the leaks suggested this
- Nucker101



And knowing Benning it was probably Sutter although his contract is better then Eriksson and Beagle
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