The unwavering support VAN has for their decisions in this thread is comical. - VanHockeyGuy
Unwavering support? Toffoli is the only player I wanted back and I don’t believe benning was allowed to offer 4 years. So what are you going to do? Sulk? Yell? It is what it is. Build for next year
The JB being reigned in by Aqua theory throws it off. Why not see it for what the facts have laid out. They want to keep term for core and top paring D.
Maybe its a bad way to go or it will cost the team chemistry build not sure how that pans out but this is where they are at. - NuckUp
It’s just a theory, I’m not saying it’s a fact. The only other theory that makes sense to me is that they’re waiting out cap hell teams and UFA’s to get even better deals that other teams have gotten so far, short term and good AAV. Then they plan to go into the expansion draft next year with the chance to get a good core player from a deep talented team at a discount price.
LOL you think you are so smart and know more its hilarious seeing one snarky comment after another as if throwing stones makes you superior. Ever heard of changing circumstances or having an open mind?
Things are always fluid in dealing with constantly changing variables and there will be hits and misses. Missing out on long term deals for vet UFA's that can be replaced is not a bad thing. Especially when there is a young core emerging.
That said not here to defend or praise management but figure out what's going on and how the team will fair. Even before free agency it was apparent that top pairing D was the big weak point. Where the team needs to improve over Tanev and soon departing Edler.
Top pairing D is where investment should be made. Why OEL was a good try but there will be other opportunities; as long as, Canucks don't spread $$ on vets for long term deals. - NuckUp
You seem to of built up a lot anger in the short time you've been here.
Unwavering support? Toffoli is the only player I wanted back and I don’t believe benning was allowed to offer 4 years. So what are you going to do? Sulk? Yell? It is what it is. Build for next year - CanuckDon
Well we move on & don’t fret on woulda coulda shoulda. After all the game is played on the ice.
Now that we only have 1 RHD, Myers should definitely be one of the top 5 options to fill that RD1 role. - DrChristianTroy
This could be the thinking. There is no rush to swing deals at high prices. Like Nucker says patience & wait for the right deal & fit from cap strapped teams now & later for the e-draft.
The unwavering support VAN has for their decisions in this thread is comical. - VanHockeyGuy
I currently give Benning the benefit of the doubt here. He has drafted a solid young core and the team has been improving each year. Also you guys talk about how great Sakic is, but Colorado has been up and down these last 6 seasons. I will say that Benning needs to make moves before there are none left to make.
It’s just a theory, I’m not saying it’s a fact. The only other theory that makes sense to me is that they’re waiting out cap hell teams and UFA’s to get even better deals that other teams have gotten so far, short term and good AAV. Then they plan to go into the expansion draft next year with the chance to get a good core player from a deep talented team at a discount price. - Nucker101
That seem to be what they will be set up for and letting some ELC's who can't get AHL time to develop a spot to grow this season.
Whatever happened to fans liking JB saying he’s not going into the UFA market? - Nighthawk
The exact offer of 4 x 4.25 with no protection probably should have been offered to toffoli as its incredibly reasonable for a proven top 3/6 winger. Paying a 2nd and a B prospect for 17 games now seems steep imo. That is a contract that Benning could have afforded, and should have offered given the price to acquire him. The tanev and marky and stecher deals are all deals I'm happy he didn't offer, this one is the only one (to me) that stings.
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Oct 12 @ 6:17 PM ET
Unwavering support? Toffoli is the only player I wanted back and I don’t believe benning was allowed to offer 4 years. So what are you going to do? Sulk? Yell? It is what it is. Build for next year - CanuckDon
The exact offer of 4 x 4.25 with no protection probably should have been offered to toffoli as its incredibly reasonable for a proven top 3/6 winger. Paying a 2nd and a B prospect for 17 games now seems steep imo. That is a contract that Benning could have afforded, and should have offered given the price to acquire him. The tanev and marky and stecher deals are all deals I'm happy he didn't offer, this one is the only one (to me) that stings. - Codes1087
Meant not our UFA’s. Toffoli at 4yrs is too long for a 40-50 winger. Rather we play kids if they earn it or ride it out. The D is priority.
Meant not our UFA’s. Toffoli at 4yrs is too long for a 40-50 winger. Rather we play kids if they earn it or ride it out. The D is priority. - Nighthawk
I imagine kids will get more opportunity to make the roster than years previous.
4 years unprotected for toffoli is something I'd be ok with given his age and history
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Oct 12 @ 6:22 PM ET
The exact offer of 4 x 4.25 with no protection probably should have been offered to toffoli as its incredibly reasonable for a proven top 3/6 winger. Paying a 2nd and a B prospect for 17 games now seems steep imo. That is a contract that Benning could have afforded, and should have offered given the price to acquire him. The tanev and marky and stecher deals are all deals I'm happy he didn't offer, this one is the only one (to me) that stings. - Codes1087
I would have signed him and traded Boeser for a top 4RHD - Pres.cup
With a QO of 7.5m coming down the road it could happen. Only if Pod & Hoagie & maybe Lind force it. JV might afford us the move but that’s dwindling each passing year.
I imagine kids will get more opportunity to make the roster than years previous.
4 years unprotected for toffoli is something I'd be ok with given his age and history - Codes1087
Yes that is reasonable and fair to state but its not a deal in a vacuum. The dominoes for them is not wanting to be stuck in a Roussel situation now that there is flat cap NHL realities. ELC's will be the golden ticket.
They also clearly want to give spots to prospects who may be ready but not having other development time options in other leagues for top line roles.
Plus of course saving $$/Cap for core and the elusive top paring D.
The unwavering support VAN has for their decisions in this thread is comical. - VanHockeyGuy
I don’t see a lot of unwavering support, just not the soothsayer level of negativity coming from the crowd that can’t stand Benning. Benning still needs to deliver but these end of the world and bottom ten predictions are premature...especially with a core of Petey, Hughes, Bo, and Miller...games are won and lost on the ice, not on paper.
OEL and Markstrom talks clash with that theory though - Nucker101
Its a bird in hand pivot is my guess. Once OEL failed no point in investing in vets. Also Marky was a 50/50 to see what they had in Demko at no point where they offering NMC.
So now they pivoted from expansion woes to being set up to grab someone.
In the meantime they see where the prospects are at given that they don't have access to top roles elsewhere. This is more pronounced under Covid times vets have filled up Euro league rosters and NA leagues in shambles.
